Slow Sink Drain

I have an 83 CAL39 with a twin sink in the galley. The sink is completely clogged, but I've run a short plastic snake down the line past the T-junction from the two sinks with no success. I'm thinking of getting a longer snake that is long enough to make it all the way through the through-hull. There's nothing between the sinks and the thru-hull, so I'm puzzled as to what there is to clog up. I've only had the boat a few months and haven't had it out of the water yet. Is there a strainer of some sort at the thr-hull that could plug up? Any other common drainage problems with the CAL39? Thanks! Max

Lee, I had a similiar problem on my Cal. I knew there wasn't anything involving the through hull so it had to be the drain hose, which I ended up replacing completely along with the drain fixture itself. If yours hasn't ever been replaced you may find that the drain hose is completly filled up with gunk - you may be able to get a snake through it, it may still be cloggged to the point that water won't really flow. You could have a clogged through hull as well, but without getting underneath the boat you won't know. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid Norwalk, CT On 2/24/08, Lee Baker <sc… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I have an 83 CAL39 with a twin sink in the galley. The sink is > completely clogged, but I've run a short plastic snake down the line > past the T-junction from the two sinks with no success. I'm thinking > of getting a longer snake that is long enough to make it all the way > through the through-hull. There's nothing between the sinks and the > thru-hull, so I'm puzzled as to what there is to clog up. I've only > had the boat a few months and haven't had it out of the water yet. Is > there a strainer of some sort at the thr-hull that could plug up? Any > other common drainage problems with the CAL39? > > Thanks! > Max > > >

You should have a through hull valve for every through hull at or below the waterline. Cals are famous for taking on water, via the head and galley sinks when you are hard on the weather. We have to close ours on the Cal 40, beating out of San Francisco towards Hawaii... or have inches of water on the counter tops, and cabin sole. If you do have this, maybe it is closed? Properly installed, I would not expect to find a strainer at the hull... Otherwise it can be simply be a clog... coffee grounds and grease are a common problem, until crew figures out how to dispose of elsewhere. I have seen in one case, where a hose internals have collapsed, making a "joker" valve. I would not recommend chemicals, and have not used enzymes enough to recommend their ability to clear a drain. I think your options boil down to rodding it out, and consider replacing the hose, if your boat will not sink in the process. dEmO From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Baker Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:35 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Slow Sink Drain I have an 83 CAL39 with a twin sink in the galley. The sink is completely clogged, but I've run a short plastic snake down the line past the T-junction from the two sinks with no success. I'm thinking of getting a longer snake that is long enough to make it all the way through the through-hull. There's nothing between the sinks and the thru-hull, so I'm puzzled as to what there is to clog up. I've only had the boat a few months and haven't had it out of the water yet. Is there a strainer of some sort at the thr-hull that could plug up? Any other common drainage problems with the CAL39? Thanks! Max

Thanks dEmO, but the seacock was the first thing I checked. The drain lines are about as straight forward as you can get...sink - Tconnector - hose - through-hull. I suspect the lower section of hose is just totally clogged. I'll have to get something to snake through it, and if that doesn't work, I'll have to replace the hose itself. Max --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <timmothy.lessley@...> wrote: > > You should have a through hull valve for every through hull at or below > the waterline. > > Cals are famous for taking on water, via the head and galley sinks when > you are hard on the weather. > > We have to close ours on the Cal 40, beating out of San Francisco > towards Hawaii... or have inches of water on the counter tops, and cabin > sole. > > If you do have this, maybe it is closed? > > Properly installed, I would not expect to find a strainer at the hull... > > Otherwise it can be simply be a clog... coffee grounds and grease are a > common problem, until crew figures out how to dispose of elsewhere. > > I have seen in one case, where a hose internals have collapsed, making a > "joker" valve. > > I would not recommend chemicals, and have not used enzymes enough to > recommend their ability to clear a drain. > > I think your options boil down to rodding it out, and consider replacing > the hose, if your boat will not sink in the process. > > dEmO > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Lee Baker > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:35 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Slow Sink Drain > > > > I have an 83 CAL39 with a twin sink in the galley. The sink is > completely clogged, but I've run a short plastic snake down the line > past the T-junction from the two sinks with no success. I'm thinking > of getting a longer snake that is long enough to make it all the way > through the through-hull. There's nothing between the sinks and the > thru-hull, so I'm puzzled as to what there is to clog up. I've only > had the boat a few months and haven't had it out of the water yet. Is > there a strainer of some sort at the thr-hull that could plug up? Any > other common drainage problems with the CAL39? > > Thanks! > Max >

Okay... but consider when you replace the hose, install a seacock, like a full port ball valve.. I have seen some through hulls with a reduced diameter at the outlet.. so something as simple as a piece of paper, plastic or food the size of a chickpea (Garbanzo), can block the outlet. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Baker Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:17 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Slow Sink Drain Thanks dEmO, but the seacock was the first thing I checked. The drain lines are about as straight forward as you can get...sink - Tconnector - hose - through-hull. I suspect the lower section of hose is just totally clogged. I'll have to get something to snake through it, and if that doesn't work, I'll have to replace the hose itself. Max --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , <timmothy.lessley@...> wrote: > > You should have a through hull valve for every through hull at or below > the waterline. > > Cals are famous for taking on water, via the head and galley sinks when > you are hard on the weather. > > We have to close ours on the Cal 40, beating out of San Francisco > towards Hawaii... or have inches of water on the counter tops, and cabin > sole. > > If you do have this, maybe it is closed? > > Properly installed, I would not expect to find a strainer at the hull... > > Otherwise it can be simply be a clog... coffee grounds and grease are a > common problem, until crew figures out how to dispose of elsewhere. > > I have seen in one case, where a hose internals have collapsed, making a > "joker" valve. > > I would not recommend chemicals, and have not used enzymes enough to > recommend their ability to clear a drain. > > I think your options boil down to rodding it out, and consider replacing > the hose, if your boat will not sink in the process. > > dEmO > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Lee Baker > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:35 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Slow Sink Drain > > > > I have an 83 CAL39 with a twin sink in the galley. The sink is > completely clogged, but I've run a short plastic snake down the line > past the T-junction from the two sinks with no success. I'm thinking > of getting a longer snake that is long enough to make it all the way > through the through-hull. There's nothing between the sinks and the > thru-hull, so I'm puzzled as to what there is to clog up. I've only > had the boat a few months and haven't had it out of the water yet. Is > there a strainer of some sort at the thr-hull that could plug up? Any > other common drainage problems with the CAL39? > > Thanks! > Max >

Lee the proble with boat sink drains is that they drain under the water line of the boat So anything that flotes and will not sink stays at the water lineof the boat Try a hose to blow the crap out or you may just have to take it apart sorry been there and done that Dave Paulson Cal 334 Allergia Channel Islands Ca ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Baker To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Slow Sink Drain I have an 83 CAL39 with a twin sink in the galley. The sink is completely clogged, but I've run a short plastic snake down the line past the T-junction from the two sinks with no success. I'm thinking of getting a longer snake that is long enough to make it all the way through the through-hull. There's nothing between the sinks and the thru-hull, so I'm puzzled as to what there is to clog up. I've only had the boat a few months and haven't had it out of the water yet. Is there a strainer of some sort at the thr-hull that could plug up? Any other common drainage problems with the CAL39? Thanks! Max