Try again, HIN explaination

Close but not quite! CAB = Cal Boats S = Cal 33 (pretty sure on that) 0101 = class # (in other words, 101st CAL 33-2 built) H = August 6 = Year of construction (in other words, built in August 1986) 87 = Actual Model Year So, this would be the 101st CAL 33-2 built, and she was built in August 1986 as a 1987 Model. Apparently, CAL Boats/Lear Siegler Marine continued to use the old Model year (August-July) designation even after changing to the 1984 and later HIN format. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 Jim, I believe the 101 means yours is the 101st one built. Also, I believe the 687 means it is a 1987 boat built in June. I have hull number 064 built in May '86 Travis Porter '86 Cal 33-2 "Vital" Hull Number Further Complication I own a 33-2 Cal. I thought I had figured out the hull number etc. but after this discussion decided to try again. Here's the number on the stern CABS0101h687. All I can figure is the 0101 might be metric but sure can't figure why a US company that has always used feet would suddenly go to meters on this single boat. Any other guesses on reading this one? Jim O'C

Rodney and Jim, I can concur with most of this. Our hull number CABS0089E687 CAB=cal boats S=Cal 33 089= hull number E=?? 687= at least I agree with the 87 model that agrees with the CG documentation on the boat YMMV John Cal 33 Oriental NC From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:25 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explaination Close but not quite! CAB = Cal Boats S = Cal 33 (pretty sure on that) 0101 = class # (in other words, 101st CAL 33-2 built) H = August 6 = Year of construction (in other words, built in August 1986) 87 = Actual Model Year So, this would be the 101st CAL 33-2 built, and she was built in August 1986 as a 1987 Model. Apparently, CAL Boats/Lear Siegler Marine continued to use the old Model year (August-July) designation even after changing to the 1984 and later HIN format. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 Jim, I believe the 101 means yours is the 101st one built. Also, I believe the 687 means it is a 1987 boat built in June. I have hull number 064 built in May '86 Travis Porter '86 Cal 33-2 "Vital" Hull Number Further Complication I own a 33-2 Cal. I thought I had figured out the hull number etc. but after this discussion decided to try again. Here's the number on the stern CABS0101h687. All I can figure is the 0101 might be metric but sure can't figure why a US company that has always used feet would suddenly go to meters on this single boat. Any other guesses on reading this one? Jim O'C

Here is a link from a Google search that I think explains the numbers, also. http://www.phrf-nw.org/hull_numbers.htm Darr LaFon Alcyone II Cal 33-2 CABS0067E686 Cincinnati, Tampa, Annapolis _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [http://www.phrf-nw.org/hull_numbers.htmmailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:49 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explanation Rodney and Jim, I can concur with most of this. Our hull number CABS0089E687 CAB=cal boats S=Cal 33 089= hull number E=?? 687= at least I agree with the 87 model that agrees with the CG documentation on the boat YMMV John Cal 33 Oriental NC From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:25 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explaination Close but not quite! CAB = Cal Boats S = Cal 33 (pretty sure on that) 0101 = class # (in other words, 101st CAL 33-2 built) H = August 6 = Year of construction (in other words, built in August 1986) 87 = Actual Model Year So, this would be the 101st CAL 33-2 built, and she was built in August 1986 as a 1987 Model. Apparently, CAL Boats/Lear Siegler Marine continued to use the old Model year (August-July) designation even after changing to the 1984 and later HIN format. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 Jim, I believe the 101 means yours is the 101st one built. Also, I believe the 687 means it is a 1987 boat built in June. I have hull number 064 built in May '86 Travis Porter '86 Cal 33-2 "Vital" Hull Number Further Complication I own a 33-2 Cal. I thought I had figured out the hull number etc. but after this discussion decided to try again. Here's the number on the stern CABS0101h687. All I can figure is the 0101 might be metric but sure can't figure why a US company that has always used feet would suddenly go to meters on this single boat. Any other guesses on reading this one? Jim O'C

Interesting, Darr. We Good Old Boat people in the 60's-70's boats don't even understand the concept of a "model year". The newest format appears oddly redundant in the last four digits. This is surprising in that anybody who planed to sell more than 1000 hulls of a model had to do some tap-dancing to come up with a model type that was descriptive within the 5 digits of the 12 digit number. Typical of bureaucracies. I read an article that said the powers that be ran out of car VINs even though the code is ungodly long. Too many letters/numbers for things that would not be used. shortage in other places. CAB516570474 - my other boats are too old for a HIN - maybe CAB40058??65 and CAB50460??67 Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of darr lafon Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 6:07 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explanation Here is a link from a Google search that I think explains the numbers, also. http://www.phrf-nw.org/hull_numbers.htm Darr LaFon Alcyone II Cal 33-2 CABS0067E686 Cincinnati, Tampa, Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [http://www.phrf-nw.org/hull_numbers.htmmailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:49 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explanation Rodney and Jim, I can concur with most of this. Our hull number CABS0089E687 CAB=cal boats S=Cal 33 089= hull number E=?? 687= at least I agree with the 87 model that agrees with the CG documentation on the boat YMMV John Cal 33 Oriental NC From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:25 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explaination Close but not quite! CAB = Cal Boats S = Cal 33 (pretty sure on that) 0101 = class # (in other words, 101st CAL 33-2 built) H = August 6 = Year of construction (in other words, built in August 1986) 87 = Actual Model Year So, this would be the 101st CAL 33-2 built, and she was built in August 1986 as a 1987 Model. Apparently, CAL Boats/Lear Siegler Marine continued to use the old Model year (August-July) designation even after changing to the 1984 and later HIN format. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 Jim, I believe the 101 means yours is the 101st one built. Also, I believe the 687 means it is a 1987 boat built in June. I have hull number 064 built in May '86 Travis Porter '86 Cal 33-2 "Vital" Hull Number Further Complication I own a 33-2 Cal. I thought I had figured out the hull number etc. but after this discussion decided to try again. Here's the number on the stern CABS0101h687. All I can figure is the 0101 might be metric but sure can't figure why a US company that has always used feet would suddenly go to meters on this single boat. Any other guesses on reading this one? Jim O'C

Good point. I guess if you consider stinkpots like Bayliners and such one might reach a thousand a year or so. I guess they can recycle these things, like they do with SSNs. How is EYC these days? Darr _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:15 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explanation Interesting, Darr. We Good Old Boat people in the 60's-70's boats don't even understand the concept of a "model year". The newest format appears oddly redundant in the last four digits. This is surprising in that anybody who planed to sell more than 1000 hulls of a model had to do some tap-dancing to come up with a model type that was descriptive within the 5 digits of the 12 digit number. Typical of bureaucracies. I read an article that said the powers that be ran out of car VINs even though the code is ungodly long. Too many letters/numbers for things that would not be used. shortage in other places. CAB516570474 - my other boats are too old for a HIN - maybe CAB40058??65 and CAB50460??67 Annapolis _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of darr lafon Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 6:07 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explanation Here is a link from a Google search that I think explains the numbers, also. http://www.phrf- <http://www.phrf-nw.org/hull_numbers.htm> nw.org/hull_numbers.htm Darr LaFon Alcyone II Cal 33-2 CABS0067E686 Cincinnati, Tampa, Annapolis _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [http://www.phrf-nw.org/hull_numbers.htmmailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:49 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explanation Rodney and Jim, I can concur with most of this. Our hull number CABS0089E687 CAB=cal boats S=Cal 33 089= hull number E=?? 687= at least I agree with the 87 model that agrees with the CG documentation on the boat YMMV John Cal 33 Oriental NC From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:25 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explaination Close but not quite! CAB = Cal Boats S = Cal 33 (pretty sure on that) 0101 = class # (in other words, 101st CAL 33-2 built) H = August 6 = Year of construction (in other words, built in August 1986) 87 = Actual Model Year So, this would be the 101st CAL 33-2 built, and she was built in August 1986 as a 1987 Model. Apparently, CAL Boats/Lear Siegler Marine continued to use the old Model year (August-July) designation even after changing to the 1984 and later HIN format. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 Jim, I believe the 101 means yours is the 101st one built. Also, I believe the 687 means it is a 1987 boat built in June. I have hull number 064 built in May '86 Travis Porter '86 Cal 33-2 "Vital" Hull Number Further Complication I own a 33-2 Cal. I thought I had figured out the hull number etc. but after this discussion decided to try again. Here's the number on the stern CABS0101h687. All I can figure is the 0101 might be metric but sure can't figure why a US company that has always used feet would suddenly go to meters on this single boat. Any other guesses on reading this one? Jim O'C

Darr, I was at EYC just last week. EYC (Eastport Yacht Club - Annapolis for out-of-towners) looks like it did a few years back except for rising prices. Seems they bought the tawdry (but waterfront) property next door in an expansion grab. Seems they did it near the top of the real estate market. They used to be the alternative yacht club concentrating on a good time. Now it looks like they are trying to compete with AYC - who is trying to compete with NYYC - who is probably trying to compete with some chi-chi place in the Med. It goes on and on. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of darr lafon Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] Try again, HIN explanation Good point. I guess if you consider stinkpots like Bayliners and such one might reach a thousand a year or so. I guess they can recycle these things, like they do with SSNs. How is EYC these days? Darr