17 messages2008-03-07 16:59 UTCthrough 2008-03-20 15:50 UTC
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
Donald Dutton2008-03-07 16:59 UTC
Aahh, then you'll know Jenny Cream (Genesee Cream Ale), best cheap beer I ever found! Even talked the local bar where I tended bar during college years into carrying it on tap! Stroh's was a close second until Miller bought them out. Another surprisingly good cheap beer was Rolling Rock. And for days when we cashed paychecks from the bookstore - Molson's Golden or Red Label.
Have to add my vote for worst as a tie 'tween Iron City and PBR's blue label (their cheap version - sold for only 6 months or so) -- the only beer I can ever remember four cash-strapped college guys pouring onto the ground rather than consuming!
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Alfred Poor <ap… [at] bellatlantic.net>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 6:01:37 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Chris)
Charlie invoked the Brews of Days Gone By:
“
of us would have died of thirst without the likes of
Schaefers, Schmidts, RWB, Natty Boh, Iron City, and Fox Head 400 (worst
non-home brew I ever had - buck a 6).”
Ahh… whenever I get nostalgic for the taste of Iron City ,
I just wait until it rains and then lock my lips around the downspout from the
roof. The result tastes slightly better than Iron City ,
but it’s close enough.
(I did love Strohs, and Schmidts had a “Tiger Ale”
that was incredibly cheap and very good back in the day.)
Alfred Poor
1973 T34C #288, “Jambalaya”
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
Gerald Sobel2008-03-07 18:02 UTC
My vote for best tasting beer is Micholob, whether 'lite' or 'dark'. I personally have no taste for brews that have gobs of bitter Hops added to them. To me they taste like vomit and turn my stomach. The truth is I drink alcoholic beverages for what they do to my brain, not for how they taste!
Jerry
--- On Fri, 3/7/08, Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 7, 2008, 8:59 AM
Aahh, then you'll know Jenny Cream (Genesee Cream Ale), best cheap beer I ever found! Even talked the local bar where I tended bar during college years into carrying it on tap! Stroh's was a close second until Miller bought them out. Another surprisingly good cheap beer was Rolling Rock. And for days when we cashed paychecks from the bookstore - Molson's Golden or Red Label.
Have to add my vote for worst as a tie 'tween Iron City and PBR's blue label (their cheap version - sold for only 6 months or so) -- the only beer I can ever remember four cash-strapped college guys pouring onto the ground rather than consuming!
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Alfred Poor <apoor@bellatlantic. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 6:01:37 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Chris)
Charlie invoked the Brews of Days Gone By:
“
of us would have died of thirst without the likes of
Schaefers, Schmidts, RWB, Natty Boh, Iron City, and Fox Head 400 (worst
non-home brew I ever had - buck a 6).”
Ahh… whenever I get nostalgic for the taste of Iron City ,
I just wait until it rains and then lock my lips around the downspout from the
roof. The result tastes slightly better than Iron City ,
but it’s close enough.
(I did love Strohs, and Schmidts had a “Tiger Ale”
that was incredibly cheap and very good back in the day.)
Alfred Poor
1973 T34C #288, “Jambalaya”
Beer Preferences (Jerry)
Husar, Charlie [USA]2008-03-07 19:50 UTC
Jerry, you are in the wrong era. Where were you when Diogenes was
looking for an honest man?
By the way, when I respond to your messages, the text color is always
white (meaning invisible).
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Sobel
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:03 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
My vote for best tasting beer is Micholob, whether 'lite' or 'dark'. I
personally have no taste for brews that have gobs of bitter Hops added
to them. To me they taste like vomit and turn my stomach. The truth is I
drink alcoholic beverages for what they do to my brain, not for how they
taste!
Jerry
--- On Fri, 3/7/08, Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 7, 2008, 8:59 AM
Aahh, then you'll know Jenny Cream (Genesee Cream Ale), best
cheap beer I ever found! Even talked the local bar where I tended bar
during college years into carrying it on tap! Stroh's was a close
second until Miller bought them out. Another surprisingly good cheap
beer was Rolling Rock. And for days when we cashed paychecks from the
bookstore - Molson's Golden or Red Label.
Have to add my vote for worst as a tie 'tween Iron City and
PBR's blue label (their cheap version - sold for only 6 months or so) --
the only beer I can ever remember four cash-strapped college guys
pouring onto the ground rather than consuming!
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33, "Quantum Evolution"
----- Original Message ----
From: Alfred Poor <apoor@bellatlantic. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 6:01:37 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Chris)
Charlie invoked the Brews of Days Gone By:
"
of us would have died of thirst without the likes of Schaefers,
Schmidts, RWB, Natty Boh, Iron City, and Fox Head 400 (worst non-home
brew I ever had - buck a 6)."
Ahh... whenever I get nostalgic for the taste of Iron City , I
just wait until it rains and then lock my lips around the downspout from
the roof. The result tastes slightly better than Iron City , but it's
close enough.
(I did love Strohs, and Schmidts had a "Tiger Ale" that was
incredibly cheap and very good back in the day.)
Alfred Poor
1973 T34C #288, "Jambalaya"
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
Chris Campbell2008-03-07 20:34 UTC
Donald Dutton wrote:
> Stroh's was a close second until Miller bought them out. Another
> surprisingly good cheap beer was Rolling Rock.
Rolling Rock was the brew of choice when I was in college. Cheap, good
(as beers went then).Unfortunately, it was available only in the >3.2%
variety. In Ohio then, you could drink "three-two" beer at 18 and the
real stuff at 21. My brother came to visit for a weekend at college and
we went to the bar that _never_ got raided. Well, he was 18 and he was
holding his bottle of unlawful Rolling Rock when they got raided for the
first time ever. I was only 20 but I put down my bottle of RR and snuck
out the kitchen door so I could bail him out.
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
John2008-03-07 20:35 UTC
Jerry- why don't you just drink grain alcohol?
_____
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Husar, Charlie [USA]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
Jerry, you are in the wrong era. Where were you when Diogenes was looking
for an honest man?
By the way, when I respond to your messages, the text color is always white
(meaning invisible).
Cheers
Charlie
_____
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gerald Sobel
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:03 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
My vote for best tasting beer is Micholob, whether 'lite' or 'dark'. I
personally have no taste for brews that have gobs of bitter Hops added to
them. To me they taste like vomit and turn my stomach. The truth is I drink
alcoholic beverages for what they do to my brain, not for how they taste!
Jerry
--- On Fri, 3/7/08, Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 7, 2008, 8:59 AM
Aahh, then you'll know Jenny Cream (Genesee Cream Ale), best cheap beer I
ever found! Even talked the local bar where I tended bar during college
years into carrying it on tap! Stroh's was a close second until Miller
bought them out. Another surprisingly good cheap beer was Rolling Rock. And
for days when we cashed paychecks from the bookstore - Molson's Golden or
Red Label.
Have to add my vote for worst as a tie 'tween Iron City and PBR's blue label
(their cheap version - sold for only 6 months or so) -- the only beer I can
ever remember four cash-strapped college guys pouring onto the ground rather
than consuming!
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Alfred Poor <apoor@bellatlantic. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 6:01:37 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Chris)
Charlie invoked the Brews of Days Gone By:
"
of us would have died of thirst without the likes of Schaefers, Schmidts,
RWB, Natty Boh, Iron City, and Fox Head 400 (worst non-home brew I ever had
- buck a 6)."
Ahh. whenever I get nostalgic for the taste of Iron City , I just wait until
it rains and then lock my lips around the downspout from the roof. The
result tastes slightly better than Iron City , but it's close enough.
(I did love Strohs, and Schmidts had a "Tiger Ale" that was incredibly cheap
and very good back in the day.)
Alfred Poor
1973 T34C #288, "Jambalaya"
Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
Chris Campbell2008-03-07 21:10 UTC
John wrote:
>
> Jerry- why don't you just drink grain alcohol?
I will answer this one for Jerry: "because you can't get the stuff!" I
have a nice old hand-bearing compass that uses 50/50 water and grain
alcohol for a fluid. Every couple years it needs to be topped off. I
tried to get some 100% grain alcohol via my brother-in-law, a
physician. He had obtained a small bottle for an artist a couple years
before but by the time I needed it even the hospital pharmacy didn't
have the stuff.
Somebody on one of these lists said "use 100 proof vodka--50/50 alcohol
and water." So I did. But if it's the alcohol that's the fugitive part
of the fluid, then I'm replacing 100% alcohol with 50/50 alcohol and
water, which means that the fluid gradually becomes more water. So one
of these years I'll drain it and replace the fluid with all new vodka.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
Marsh Wise2008-03-07 23:18 UTC
You can't get that in the Socialist Republik of Kahleefornya :-(
John wrote:
> Jerry- why don't you just drink grain alcohol?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Husar, Charlie [USA]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 07, 2008 2:51 PM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
>
> Jerry, you are in the wrong era. Where were you when Diogenes was
> looking for an honest man?
>
> By the way, when I respond to your messages, the text color is always
> white (meaning invisible).
>
> Cheers
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Gerald Sobel
> *Sent:* Friday, March 07, 2008 1:03 PM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
>
> My vote for best tasting beer is Micholob, whether 'lite' or 'dark'. I
> personally have no taste for brews that have gobs of bitter Hops added
> to them. To me they taste like vomit and turn my stomach. The truth is
> I drink alcoholic beverages for what they do to my brain, not for how
> they taste!
> Jerry
>
> --- On *Fri, 3/7/08, Donald Dutton /<dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>/* wrote:
>
> From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, March 7, 2008, 8:59 AM
>
> Aahh, then you'll know Jenny Cream (Genesee Cream Ale), best cheap
> beer I ever found! Even talked the local bar where I tended bar
> during college years into carrying it on tap! Stroh's was a close
> second until Miller bought them out. Another surprisingly good
> cheap beer was Rolling Rock. And for days when we cashed
> paychecks from the bookstore - Molson's Golden or Red Label.
>
> Have to add my vote for worst as a tie 'tween Iron City and PBR's
> blue label (their cheap version - sold for only 6 months or so) --
> the only beer I can ever remember four cash-strapped college guys
> pouring onto the ground rather than consuming!
>
> Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33, "Quantum Evolution"
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Alfred Poor <apoor@bellatlantic. net>
> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 6:01:37 AM
> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Chris)
>
> Charlie invoked the Brews of Days Gone By:
>
>
>
> "
>
> of us would have died of thirst without the likes of Schaefers,
> Schmidts, RWB, Natty Boh, Iron City, and Fox Head 400 (worst
> non-home brew I ever had - buck a 6)."
>
>
>
> Ahh... whenever I get nostalgic for the taste of Iron City , I
> just wait until it rains and then lock my lips around the
> downspout from the roof. The result tastes slightly better than
> Iron City , but it's close enough.
>
>
>
> (I did love Strohs, and Schmidts had a "Tiger Ale" that was
> incredibly cheap and very good back in the day.)
>
>
>
> Alfred Poor
>
> 1973 T34C #288, "Jambalaya"
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting)2008-03-08 04:58 UTC
I have an old dory compass in a wooden box. There is a large bubble in the fluid. If I add vodka this will work without harming the old compass to remove the bubble?
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Campbell
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
John wrote:
Jerry- why don't you just drink grain alcohol?
I will answer this one for Jerry: "because you can't get the stuff!" I have a nice old hand-bearing compass that uses 50/50 water and grain alcohol for a fluid. Every couple years it needs to be topped off. I tried to get some 100% grain alcohol via my brother-in-law, a physician. He had obtained a small bottle for an artist a couple years before but by the time I needed it even the hospital pharmacy didn't have the stuff.
Somebody on one of these lists said "use 100 proof vodka--50/50 alcohol and water." So I did. But if it's the alcohol that's the fugitive part of the fluid, then I'm replacing 100% alcohol with 50/50 alcohol and water, which means that the fluid gradually becomes more water. So one of these years I'll drain it and replace the fluid with all new vodka.
Chris Campbell
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Charlie & John)
Gerald Sobel2008-03-08 06:28 UTC
--- On Fri, 3/7/08, John <st… [at] embarqmail.com> wrote:
From: John <st… [at] embarqmail.com
Jerry- why don't you just drink grain
alcohol?
John, good point! For the price of a premium beer at the Yacht Clubs I can get a rum and coke. Sometimes the house rum is Mt. Gay, or Pusser's (Just like in those swanky ads in Sailing World!)
I actually do like the taste of Micholob, it's got high percentage alcohol content and unlike those short little glasses of fizz and booze, a nice chilled tall one really quenches your thirst and replenishes your electrolytes and essential vitamins and nutrients after a long hot day on the race course, especially after that last hot down wind leg, running with the wind
. Heck, archaeologists have discovered that the Egyptians built the Pyramids and Cities and Temples with a multitude of teamed brute strength, and refined architectural tactics and civil engineering, all fueled by beer!
Jerry, solar contractor to Moses himself (Chuck Heston)
From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
[mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie
[USA]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:51 PM
To:
Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences
(Jerry)
Jerry, you
are in the wrong era. Where were you when Diogenes was looking for an
honest man?
B y the way, when I respond to your messages, the text
color is always white (meaning invisible).
Cheers
Charlie
From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
[mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Gerald
Sobel
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:03 PM
To:
Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and
Spring Fever (Alfred)
My vote for best tasting beer is Micholob, whether 'lite' or 'dark'. I
personally have no taste for brews that have gobs of bitter Hops added to
them. To me they taste like vomit and turn my stomach. The truth is I
drink alcoholic beverages for what they do to my brain, not for how they
taste!
Jerry
--- On Fri, 3/7/08, Donald Dutton
<dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
From: Donald
Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats]
Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
To:
Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, March 7, 2008, 8:59
AM
Aahh,
then you'll know Jenny Cream (Genesee Cream Ale), best cheap beer I ever
found! Even talked the local bar where I tended bar during college
years into carrying it on tap! Stroh's was a close second until
Miller bought them out. Another surprisingly good cheap beer was Rolling
Rock. And for days when we cashed paychecks from the bookstore -
Molson's Golden or Red Label.
Have to add my vote for worst as a
tie 'tween Iron City and PBR's blue label (their cheap version - sold
for only 6 months or so) -- the only beer I can ever remember four
cash-strapped college guys pouring onto the ground rather than
consuming!
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Alfred Poor <apoor@bellatlantic. net>
To:
Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 6:01:37
AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Chris)
Charlie invoked the Brews of
Days Gone By:
“
of us would have died of
thirst without the likes of Schaefers, Schmidts, RWB, Natty Boh, Iron
City, and Fox Head 400 (worst non-home brew I ever had - buck a
6).”
Ahh… whenever I get
nostalgic for the taste of Iron City , I just wait until it rains and
then lock my lips around the downspout from the roof. The result tastes
slightly better than Iron City , but it’s close
enough.
(I did love Strohs, and
Schmidts had a “Tiger Ale” that was incredibly cheap and very good back
in the day.)
Alfred
Poor
1973 T34C #288,
“Jambalaya”
RE: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
Drew Ratchelous2008-03-08 18:35 UTC
yes 100 proof vodka would be 50% ethanol. The remaining fluid in the compass should still be 50% ethanol. Ethanol and water have such a high affinity for each other the only way they be separated or have their concentrations changed is by exploiting the different boiling or freezing points. Like dorm room distillation, or back porch frozen cider in the winter poured through a hopefully clean tee shirt to filter out the water ice.
drew ratchelous new haven ct
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: ma… [at] cox.netDate: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:58:37 -0800Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
I have an old dory compass in a wooden box. There is a large bubble in the fluid. If I add vodka this will work without harming the old compass to remove the bubble?
Mark
From: Chris Campbell
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
John wrote:
Jerry- why don't you just drink grain alcohol?I will answer this one for Jerry: "because you can't get the stuff!" I have a nice old hand-bearing compass that uses 50/50 water and grain alcohol for a fluid. Every couple years it needs to be topped off. I tried to get some 100% grain alcohol via my brother-in-law, a physician. He had obtained a small bottle for an artist a couple years before but by the time I needed it even the hospital pharmacy didn't have the stuff.Somebody on one of these lists said "use 100 proof vodka--50/50 alcohol and water." So I did. But if it's the alcohol that's the fugitive part of the fluid, then I'm replacing 100% alcohol with 50/50 alcohol and water, which means that the fluid gradually becomes more water. So one of these years I'll drain it and replace the fluid with all new vodka.Chris Campbell
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
Chris Campbell2008-03-10 20:48 UTC
Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) wrote:
>
> I have an old dory compass in a wooden box. There is a large bubble in
> the fluid. If I add vodka this will work without harming the old
> compass to remove the bubble?
Mark:
Check to make sure the existing fluid is alcohol (and water). Your nose
will tell you. Then top it off with the vodka (100 proof). But as I
noted, the fugitive part is likely to be the alcohol, so if you're
planning on using this below freezing, you might want to empty it and
put all-new vodka in so you know you've really got 50/50.
For non-alcohol compasses, somebody told me to use charcoal lighter
fluid because it's highly refined for use around food, and won't have
sulfur compounds that will go yellow. I've done that too, with success.
Chris Campbell
compass bubble and vodka
amracel2008-03-10 23:25
The guy who was doing repairs on my boat suggested that the compass
should be filled with mineral oil. Is that then just for newer ones?
Anne Racel
(soon-to-be) 4 Degrees
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote:
>
> Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) wrote:
> >
> > I have an old dory compass in a wooden box. There is a large
bubble in
> > the fluid. If I add vodka this will work without harming the old
> > compass to remove the bubble?
>
>
>
> Mark:
>
> Check to make sure the existing fluid is alcohol (and water). Your
nose
> will tell you. Then top it off with the vodka (100 proof). But as I
> noted, the fugitive part is likely to be the alcohol, so if you're
> planning on using this below freezing, you might want to empty it and
> put all-new vodka in so you know you've really got 50/50.
>
> For non-alcohol compasses, somebody told me to use charcoal lighter
> fluid because it's highly refined for use around food, and won't have
> sulfur compounds that will go yellow. I've done that too, with
success.
>
> Chris Campbell
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
Chris Campbell2008-03-11 16:17 UTC
Drew Ratchelous wrote:
>
> yes 100 proof vodka would be 50% ethanol. The remaining fluid in the
> compass should still be 50% ethanol. Ethanol and water have such a
> high affinity for each other the only way they be separated or have
> their concentrations changed is by exploiting the different boiling or
> freezing points.
>
I have always assumed that the alcohol, having the lower boiling point,
would tend to evaporate out faster than the water. In my father's
youth, cars used alcohol and water as antifreeze, and they had to check
the alcohol content regularly in the winter because it would tend to
evaporate off at the running temp of the car's coolant. This left the
cars subject to freeze-up and all sorts of bad consequences.
Compasses operate at lower temperatures than car cooling systems, I
know, but the alcohol still must be the first to go--or is the
chemistry otherwise on this?
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
Drew Ratchelous2008-03-11 19:23 UTC
yes Chris you are right , I am wrong, the chemical with the lower boiling point will evaporate first. What is happening in the radiator is probably a simple distillation of antifreeze, since the alcohol would boil off in a hot engine before the water , i think ethanol boils around 180 F if i remember . too long since i had chemistry , I was thinking that at higher concentrations ethanol and water are not easily separable which is why you cannot get grain alcohol above 190 or 194 proof, you have to add benzene to the distillation which imparts a slightly dangerous aftertaste.I am not sure of the physical chemistry exactly, but you need a liquid/air interface for evaporation to occurr. Maybe the leak in the compass is so slight the fluid evaporates before drops accumulate. I still think the percentage should not change much. Next time you fill it take a dropperful and see if you can light it( away from the compass) 100 proof should burn. Probably wont taste too good after being in the compass, a shot for the skipper, a shot for the compasss....
drew -new haven ct - recreational boat owner and recreational ethanol hobbyist (for private consumption mr taxman)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: cl… [at] charterinternet.comDate: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:17:10 -0400Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
Drew Ratchelous wrote:
yes 100 proof vodka would be 50% ethanol. The remaining fluid in the compass should still be 50% ethanol. Ethanol and water have such a high affinity for each other the only way they be separated or have their concentrations changed is by exploiting the different boiling or freezing points.I have always assumed that the alcohol, having the lower boiling point, would tend to evaporate out faster than the water. In my father's youth, cars used alcohol and water as antifreeze, and they had to check the alcohol content regularly in the winter because it would tend to evaporate off at the running temp of the car's coolant. This left the cars subject to freeze-up and all sorts of bad consequences.Compasses operate at lower temperatures than car cooling systems, I know, but the alcohol still must be the first to go--or is the chemistry otherwise on this? Chris Campbell
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Re: [Cal_Boats] compass bubble and vodka
Chris Campbell2008-03-11 21:09 UTC
amracel wrote:
>
> The guy who was doing repairs on my boat suggested that the compass
> should be filled with mineral oil. Is that then just for newer ones?
>
Yes. My newer ones use an oil. But a long time ago I tried refilling a
car compass with good ol' drug store mineral oil. Sounded like a great
idea but I guessed wrong on viscosity--it takes the compass about 5
minutes to head north again after you turn it. In the future, I'll try
diluting mineral oil with charcoal starter fluid if I need something
along those lines. Others have suggested some other oily
things--Stoddard Solvent, mineral spirits.
Chris Camnpbell
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry) [compass bubble and vodka
Chris Campbell2008-03-12 21:06 UTC
Drew Ratchelous wrote:
>
> Next time you fill it take a dropperful and see if you can light it(
> away from the compass) 100 proof should burn.
>
I'll try that. Your chemistry is undoubtedly more recent than mine.
Maybe I'l put the question to a sailing friend who's a retired chem.
teacher.
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
John2008-03-20 15:50 UTC
Jerry,
Another reason to drink high-hopped beer (from Newsmax Health Alerts)
John
1. Beer Fights Cancer
Researchers are always looking for the magic bullet to kill cancer, and now
they may have found it in a surprising place - a glass of beer! (Who knew?)
It turns out that hops, which is the flavor component of beer, contains a
cancer-fighting compound called xanthohumol.
Xanthohumol turns out to be toxic to several kinds of human cancer,
including prostate, ovarian, breast, and colon. Further, it inhibits enzymes
that can activate the development of cancer, and also helps detoxify
carcinogens. It even seems to slow down tumor growth in the early stages.
Scientists are trying to produce hops that contain even more xanthohumol,
and the Germans are racing to develop a "health" beer.
But wait - there's more! Other compounds in hops are potent phytoestrogens
which may help with post-menopausal hot flashes and also prevent
osteoporosis.
Beers that provide the most benefits contain the most hops, and include
strong brews such as ale, stout, and porter. In general, the darker the
beer, the better. For those who can't stand beer, herbal supplements made
from hops contain the highest concentrations of beneficial elements.
_____
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marsh Wise
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:18 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
You can't get that in the Socialist Republik of Kahleefornya :-(
John wrote:
Jerry- why don't you just drink grain alcohol?
_____
From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com
[mailto:Cal_Boats@ <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Beer Preferences (Jerry)
Jerry, you are in the wrong era. Where were you when Diogenes was looking
for an honest man?
By the way, when I respond to your messages, the text color is always white
(meaning invisible).
Cheers
Charlie
_____
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gerald Sobel
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:03 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
My vote for best tasting beer is Micholob, whether 'lite' or 'dark'. I
personally have no taste for brews that have gobs of bitter Hops added to
them. To me they taste like vomit and turn my stomach. The truth is I drink
alcoholic beverages for what they do to my brain, not for how they taste!
Jerry
--- On Fri, 3/7/08, Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Alfred)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 7, 2008, 8:59 AM
Aahh, then you'll know Jenny Cream (Genesee Cream Ale), best cheap beer I
ever found! Even talked the local bar where I tended bar during college
years into carrying it on tap! Stroh's was a close second until Miller
bought them out. Another surprisingly good cheap beer was Rolling Rock. And
for days when we cashed paychecks from the bookstore - Molson's Golden or
Red Label.
Have to add my vote for worst as a tie 'tween Iron City and PBR's blue label
(their cheap version - sold for only 6 months or so) -- the only beer I can
ever remember four cash-strapped college guys pouring onto the ground rather
than consuming!
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Alfred Poor <mailto:ap… [at] bellatlantic.net> <apoor@bellatlantic. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 6:01:37 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Poll and Spring Fever (Chris)
Charlie invoked the Brews of Days Gone By:
"
of us would have died of thirst without the likes of Schaefers, Schmidts,
RWB, Natty Boh, Iron City, and Fox Head 400 (worst non-home brew I ever had
- buck a 6)."
Ahh. whenever I get nostalgic for the taste of Iron City , I just wait until
it rains and then lock my lips around the downspout from the roof. The
result tastes slightly better than Iron City , but it's close enough.
(I did love Strohs, and Schmidts had a "Tiger Ale" that was incredibly cheap
and very good back in the day.)
Alfred Poor
1973 T34C #288, "Jambalaya"
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