Re: [Cal_Boats] Dumb Question (Charlie)

Charlie - We've raced against Jim a number of times on our CS 30 (also rated at 156) and the closest we've come to beating him was finishing about a minute behind him in Oxford one day. I had always wondered if our boat was properly rated and that same day 4 of us rated at 156 finished within maybe 3 minutes of each other after a 9 mile race. That was a great day even though we didn't win. Gave me a little faith in the PHRF system if nothing else. Certainly less expensive racing a small boat. In ESSA (Eastern Shore Sailing Association) we have 2 fleets and the one in Bivalve has a one design Tanzer 22 fleet. For what we paid for a new light air sail for our CS 30 we could have bought a whole Tanzer boat and a suit of sails for it. It's only going to get worse with the 39 ugh! Paul In a message dated 4/23/2008 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hu… [at] bah.com writes: Hi, Paul. I race in CAL 25s about 40 days a year (maybe more). I bought the 40 to be a Bay touring boat (and because they are so neat). Too much effort to mount a racing campaign on top of the CAL 25 stuff. Hard enough to keep a steady crew on the 25 these days. Hard to find dedication. We'll be doing St. Mikes and Fall Oxford on one of my 25s (either 460 or 1657). Hope to see you. By the way, if you run into CAL 36 Diamond in the Rough, the skipper Jim Mumper is a hell of a sailor. Cheers Charlie From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou Cal_Boats@yahoogrou<WB Cal_Boats@yahoo Cal_BoOn Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.pwe Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:07 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou Cal_B Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dumb Question Charlie - Its keel stepped. I just bought one but haven't had it in the water yet. Been working on the bottom, gettin' her in racing shape. Do you race your 40 at all? We just got our PHRF rating of 120, the same as the Cal 40 Belle Aurora that we'll be racing against over in Oxford. We'll also be racing against Good Cheer, a Cal 36 at 156 and Big Time, a Cal 33 at 159. Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 In a message dated 4/23/2008 9:02:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, husar_charlie@In a message da Folks, I apologize, but I don't know if a CAL 39 is a deck step or a keel step for the mast. Can someone educate this wayward child? Seen several. Never been on one. Cheers Charlie From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou Cal_Boats@yahoogrou<WBR> Cal_Boats@yahoo Cal_BoOn Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.pwe Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:46 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou Cal_B Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Mast Step Cal 39 - Steel Beam???? I have the mast removed from my recently purchased Cal 39 and found that the stainless steel plate that the mast step sits on has bent to conform to whatever material it is that it sits on. I have removed the plate but cannot determine from tapping on it, what the ultimate "mast step" is made of . It is all covered in fiberglass and there appears to be 3 beams running side to side with some other material in between and it is this material that appears to have settled approximately 1/8". Unless someone has a better idea, my plan was to mix up a slurry mixture of some West System Epoxy mixed with #403 silica for its bonding and hardness properties and pour this onto the step, letting it fill all the voids and then seek its own level. The only problem I can see with this process is that the boat is not likely to be sitting level on the hard and is probably bow up to make sure the water drains to the scuppers. I don't know if it is severe enough that it would create a surface on the mast step that is pitched far enough forward so as to screw up the angle of the mast but I suppose I could put a level on it and see what I'm dealing with. Also the base of the mast was corroded so my rigger is going to cut some material off the base and cut a plate the same thickness as what he takes off the bottom to put under the mast step so I don't lose any height. He is also going to weld another plate to the existing bent plate to strengthen it. Speaking of mast angle, anyone know that the optimum rake is for the Cal 39? Thanks - Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 -----Original Message----- From: chris cole <sculler2000@sculler20> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrouTo: Sent: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 3:23 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] The dreaded steel beams OOOOOOOOHhhhhh I might have to take a peek down there. --- On Wed, 4/23/08, David Wilkie Owen <wilkie@mariposasailwilkie@> wrote: From: David Wilkie Owen <wilkie@mariposasailwilkie@> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] The dreaded steel beams To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrouTo: Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008, 11:03 AM A few pictures are worth thousands of words..... _http://www.mariposa sailing.com/ Replacement. html_ (http://www.mariposasailing.com/Replacement.html) Wilkie From: chris cole <sculler2000@ yahoo.com> Reply-To: <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:29 -0700 (PDT) To: <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] The dreaded steel beams Can you guys explain to me what a beam project is? Thanks, Chris --- On Wed, 4/23/08, David Wilkie Owen <wilkie@mariposasail ing.com> wrote: From: David Wilkie Owen <wilkie@mariposasail ing.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] The dreaded steel beams To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008, 10:54 AM Alan, This is a wonderful service and I would like to ask your permission to pass this info on to a couple of people who have inquired of my beam project from links on my web page. I always refer them to the cal list but don’t know if they join or not. Would that be OK? David “Wilkie” Owen From: Alan Storey <fortyfunctions@ shaw.ca> Reply-To: <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:53:35 -0000 To: <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] The dreaded steel beams For some reason my posts don't show up very often.... but I'll give it a whirl again today. About 5 years ago I made a number of steel beam replacements for the 29's , 2-30 and the 3-30, out of 316L stainless for a number of folks on this list and including my own 3-30 which started it all. I am about to build another for a 2-29, and I am wondering if anyone else is planning a beam project this year and needs a new beam? I have the drawings and templates and would be happy to make it a beam run of more than one. I am not building any on spec, as I found that the tabs seem to be different on each one from boat to boat even within the same series. This is not a business call here and I am not in the business of making beams. I am a sculptor and I happen to have all the right stuff to be able to do this including the pickling and pacifying bath set-up. The price for a 29 beam is $600 I'm afraid. If anyone has been following the cost of stainless steel, especially 316L, will realize that I'm not doing this to make money.... A 3-30 beam is $750 now. 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