hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70

both of these types of Cal's are available locally and for sale i'm interested but have limited knowledge on boat ownership i'd like any inputs on this like what kind of things would i be getting myself into with boats of this vintage i mean...are these boats really as solid as the reputation or am I apt to be looking at all sorts of unforseen problems owing to age? can fiberglass really last almost forever? what kind of shape would fiberglass be in on a boat of these vintages 65/70 which boat would be the better way to go? go for the larger size or i'd like to do some distance cruising in the future, i've not owned a boat before so any/all input would be appreciated really want to have any kind of heads up on what to expect, what to look out for etc. (if its even possible to put that in a concise way -- i know its not realistic but any input is useful to me) thanks in advance,

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@...> wrote: > > both of these types of Cal's are available locally and for sale > > i'm interested but have limited knowledge on boat ownership > > i'd like any inputs on this > like what kind of things would i be getting myself into with boats of this vintage The Cal 36 is a nice size for one or two people to go cruising but there are only a few of them. The 39 is larger inside than the 40 but both are comfortable and strong. > > i mean...are these boats really as solid as the reputation or am I apt to be looking at all sorts > of unforseen problems owing to age? can fiberglass really last almost forever? what kind of > shape would fiberglass be in on a boat of these vintages 65/70 My 40 is 1967 and had no fiberglass problems. Everything else was a mess and got donated or thrown away. > > which boat would be the better way to go? go for the larger size or > i'd like to do some distance cruising in the future, A Cal 30 is small for cruising. > > i've not owned a boat before so any/all input would be appreciated > really want to have any kind of heads up on what to expect, what to look out for etc. (if its > even possible to put that in a concise way -- i know its not realistic but any input is useful to > me) The 30 will be a lot cheaper and easier to learn on. The 2-30 is a better boat, I would say. The 36 would be a better live-aboard. There was one a few slips down from me and the guy had lived on it for years. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > thanks in advance, >

The Old Cal 30-2 is built like a WW2 Sherman tank and is over built compared to the modern light weights produced today. In the late 1960 era hand layup was the building system used and more is better was the rule of the day so heavy solid boats were produced. The standing rig, mast stays, pulpits were all over built and the kiel is a poared? kiel which is stronger than a bolt on kiel and the bulkheads are well tabbed. The only drawbeck is that the older Cals are very traditional on the inside? and not? fluffey and cutsey like newer rigs so you might have to install a few bud vases and colorful pillows to please the wife or if your going to use the boat as a chick magnet. Things to check, windows for leaks, tiller tube for play, rudder for cracks, deck stansions should have backing plates installed and grab rail should be installed inside main cabin. From: mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 8:07 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@...> wrote: > > both of these types of Cal's are available locally and for sale > > i'm interested but have limited knowledge on boat ownership > > i'd like any inputs on this > like what kind of things would i be getting myself into with boats of this vintage The Cal 36 is a nice size for one or two people to go cruising but there are only a few of them. The 39 is larger inside than the 40 but both are comfortable and strong. > > i mean...are these boats really as solid as the reputation or am I apt to be looking at all sorts > of unforseen problems owing to age? can fiberglass really last almost forever? what kind of > shape would fiberglass be in on a boat of these vintages 65/70 My 40 is 1967 and had no fiberglass problems. Everything else was a mess and got donated or thrown away. > > which boat would be the better way to go? go for the larger size or > i'd like to do some distance cruising in the future, A Cal 30 is small for cruising. > > i've not owned a boat before so any/all input would be appreciated > really want to have any kind of heads up on what to expect, what to look out for etc. (if its > even possible to put that in a concise way -- i know its not realistic but any input is useful to > me) The 30 will be a lot cheaper and easier to learn on. The 2-30 is a better boat, I would say. The 36 would be a better live-aboard. There was one a few slips down from me and the guy had lived on it for years. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > thanks in advance, >

Whoooieee! If I could recommend anything I'd say start out with a small boat and work your way up, find out how much you really want to sail before you bite off more than you can chew. I'd sailed Cal 20's many times before I got my Cal 24 and because she is a full keel boat, I had to relearn how to steer a bit, but of course when I first left the dock the bottom was so fouled with growth she barely went straight, even with just outboard. On my way into the dock for the travel lift at Anacappa marine, my new used outboard quit, and if it weren't for the nice big round rubber bumper at the end, to stuff the pointy end of my boat, I would have really crunched my boat right then and there. In fact, I'd recommend to anyone to start out by reading about sailing a lot, and then try your hand at dinghys. I think the learning curve is really nice in steep in dinghys, they give you immediate response, and if you screw up you 1. won't do as much damage. and 2. get to go for a swim when you capsize. Lucky for you the waterways aren't as toxic and poluted as when that sophmore at Rutgers dumped this former freshman into the Raritan River in New Brusnwick, in 1964. Raritan means pure waters in Algonquin- the square riggers used to go up the river to fill their water tanks before heading across the Atlantic, but at the time American Cyanamid was using it as a chemical waste dump. My skin reeked of weird odors no matter how much I showered, for several days afterwards. Jerry --- On Fri, 6/13/08, mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> wrote: From: mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 6:07 PM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@ ...> wrote: > > both of these types of Cal's are available locally and for sale > > i'm interested but have limited knowledge on boat ownership > > i'd like any inputs on this > like what kind of things would i be getting myself into with boats of this vintage The Cal 36 is a nice size for one or two people to go cruising but there are only a few of them. The 39 is larger inside than the 40 but both are comfortable and strong. > > i mean...are these boats really as solid as the reputation or am I apt to be looking at all sorts > of unforseen problems owing to age? can fiberglass really last almost forever? what kind of > shape would fiberglass be in on a boat of these vintages 65/70 My 40 is 1967 and had no fiberglass problems. Everything else was a mess and got donated or thrown away. > > which boat would be the better way to go? go for the larger size or > i'd like to do some distance cruising in the future, A Cal 30 is small for cruising. > > i've not owned a boat before so any/all input would be appreciated > really want to have any kind of heads up on what to expect, what to look out for etc. (if its > even possible to put that in a concise way -- i know its not realistic but any input is useful to > me) The 30 will be a lot cheaper and easier to learn on. The 2-30 is a better boat, I would say. The 36 would be a better live-aboard. There was one a few slips down from me and the guy had lived on it for years. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > thanks in advance, >

hey guys, thanks for all the input i forgot to mention that i do have sailing experience and they made us learn the hard way...no engines at all and entire free hand to the dock tack in/out to the bay -- def not for the feint of heart on a windy day in miami i think the avg boat was 24ft on these trainers..heavy giant keels (practically impossible to capsize) so i have sailing experience but very little practical knowledge from the ownership angle been through lots of books as well the older cals interest me the most due to the really solid reputation -- esp on the hulls - - as you all mentioned the heavy glass and layup --but then there are all the other things i'm not quite sure of...but you're helping me to get a grasp i think the 65 must be an original CAL 30 and not 2-30 OR did they make the 2-30 in 65? what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 1965? I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades etc hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price thanks again to all

On Jun 16, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Steve wrote: > hey guys, thanks for all the input > > i forgot to mention that i do have sailing experience > and they made us learn the hard way...no engines at all and entire > free hand to the dock > tack in/out to the bay -- def not for the feint of heart on a windy > day in miami > > i think the avg boat was 24ft on these trainers..heavy giant keels > (practically impossible to > capsize) > > so i have sailing experience but very little practical knowledge > from the ownership angle > been through lots of books as well > > the older cals interest me the most due to the really solid > reputation -- esp on the hulls - > - as you all mentioned the heavy glass and layup --but then there > are all the other things > i'm not quite sure of...but you're helping me to get a grasp > > i think the 65 must be an original CAL 30 and not 2-30 OR did they > make the 2-30 in 65? > > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 > 1965? > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > etc > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price > Here: http://www.ablboats.com/details.asp?ListingID=72600 And here: http://www.yachtbroker.com/sailboats/1966/36'-ft/jensen-marine/cal-36/cruiser-(sail)/inboard/92106/1281859.htm Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 >

Broker's prices on Yachtworld are a guide: http://tinyurl.com/42qv67 http://tinyurl.com/3nc5lc As with used cars, broker's prices are higher than private sales, but you *should* get more 'protection' on the sale. Nick From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:05 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 hey guys, thanks for all the input i forgot to mention that i do have sailing experience and they made us learn the hard way...no engines at all and entire free hand to the dock tack in/out to the bay -- def not for the feint of heart on a windy day in miami i think the avg boat was 24ft on these trainers..heavy giant keels (practically impossible to capsize) so i have sailing experience but very little practical knowledge from the ownership angle been through lots of books as well the older cals interest me the most due to the really solid reputation -- esp on the hulls - - as you all mentioned the heavy glass and layup --but then there are all the other things i'm not quite sure of...but you're helping me to get a grasp i think the 65 must be an original CAL 30 and not 2-30 OR did they make the 2-30 in 65? what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 1965? I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades etc hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price thanks again to all

the second link leads one to assume the 36 is the cruising version. it is not. Reggie '69 CAL ruising 36 '74 CAL T/2 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: mt… [at] cox.netDate: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:32:57 -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 On Jun 16, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Steve wrote:> hey guys, thanks for all the input>> i forgot to mention that i do have sailing experience> and they made us learn the hard way...no engines at all and entire > free hand to the dock> tack in/out to the bay -- def not for the feint of heart on a windy > day in miami>> i think the avg boat was 24ft on these trainers..heavy giant keels > (practically impossible to> capsize)>> so i have sailing experience but very little practical knowledge > from the ownership angle> been through lots of books as well>> the older cals interest me the most due to the really solid > reputation -- esp on the hulls -> - as you all mentioned the heavy glass and layup --but then there > are all the other things> i'm not quite sure of...but you're helping me to get a grasp>> i think the 65 must be an original CAL 30 and not 2-30 OR did they > make the 2-30 in 65?>> what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 > 1965?> I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > etc> hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price>Here:http://www.ablboats.com/details.asp?ListingID=72600And here:http://www.yachtbroker.com/sailboats/1966/36'-ft/jensen-marine/cal-36/cruiser-(sail)/inboard/92106/1281859.htmMike KennedyConquest Cal 40 # 96>

Steve, After writing you back about learning how to sail etc it occurred to me you might already know how, but this was after I hit the send button. The Original Cal 30 is very cool, it has similar under body to the Lapworth 24 and Gladiator 24. Low aspect ratio keel with attached rudder, like the popular designs of the mid-20th century. It is very classy looking, and I like the low freeboard myself, as contrast to the high freeboard and slit like cabin windows of most modern sailboat designs. And yeah, the deeper forefoot is far more sea kindly, they don't pound so much in steep waves, are more ruggedly built, yet still have a good turn of speed. We have one member of our group in the Seattle area who loves his. Of course it is probably sturdier than the later skimming dish detached rudder style boats that followed it. It has a deep keel encapsulating the lead ballast. You must evaluate each boat on a case by cases basis, and it always helps to get unbiased input of a real surveyor, even if the boat is super cheap. Usually the cheapest boats aren't the least expensive, they need extensive repairs with new parts. I found that out the hard way with my kit-built bare bones and neglected Cal 24. On the other hand, when you do renovate a boat you get to know all its systems intimately, and you get to semi-customize the boat as you go along. Hope dat helps. Jerry --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Steve <pc… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Steve <pc… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 5:05 PM hey guys, thanks for all the input i forgot to mention that i do have sailing experience and they made us learn the hard way...no engines at all and entire free hand to the dock tack in/out to the bay -- def not for the feint of heart on a windy day in miami i think the avg boat was 24ft on these trainers..heavy giant keels (practically impossible to capsize) so i have sailing experience but very little practical knowledge from the ownership angle been through lots of books as well the older cals interest me the most due to the really solid reputation -- esp on the hulls - - as you all mentioned the heavy glass and layup --but then there are all the other things i'm not quite sure of...but you're helping me to get a grasp i think the 65 must be an original CAL 30 and not 2-30 OR did they make the 2-30 in 65? what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 1965? I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades etc hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price thanks again to all

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@...> wrote: > > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 > 1965? > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > etc > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price > thanks again to all To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. Seller was highly motivated, as they had moved out of the area and did not want to transport. The condition was quite good except for cosmetic issues (a little wood work needed). It is our first larger sailboat and, after a couple of short sails with it, I couldn't be happier! We shopped brokers first and didn't find anything comparable for less than $20,000 with them. Dave H

u074036 wrote: > > > To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal > 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan > for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. > Whoa, now there are two Cal-listers in TC? Where are you, Dave, and who? Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, Martha C TC, MI

Yes, A nice Cal 30 Olde went for 5 boat bucks in San Pedro, CA, a year or so ago. Sold by female navy Seal. I went down and saw, both of them, someone else snatched her first...I mean...the boat. Jerry --- On Tue, 6/17/08, u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 5:35 AM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@ ...> wrote: > > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 > 1965? > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > etc > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price > thanks again to all To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. Seller was highly motivated, as they had moved out of the area and did not want to transport. The condition was quite good except for cosmetic issues (a little wood work needed). It is our first larger sailboat and, after a couple of short sails with it, I couldn't be happier! We shopped brokers first and didn't find anything comparable for less than $20,000 with them. Dave H

Odin Braath, our one remaining Cal factory guy, (I'm sure there's others out there?) told me of a Cal 36 that was for sale for $17,000 by a motivated seller, in Newport Area. The 36 I saw in Alameda Basin looked awesome. Jerry --- On Tue, 6/17/08, u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 5:35 AM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@ ...> wrote: > > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 > 1965? > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > etc > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price > thanks again to all To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. Seller was highly motivated, as they had moved out of the area and did not want to transport. The condition was quite good except for cosmetic issues (a little wood work needed). It is our first larger sailboat and, after a couple of short sails with it, I couldn't be happier! We shopped brokers first and didn't find anything comparable for less than $20,000 with them. Dave H

Oh, BTW, if your looking at Cal 30s and Cal 36's, don't neglect the Cal 34. It is by far the most common of the larger Cal sailboats out there, in my opinion. And, they are fast! Our Yacht Club has a couple who still sail and race theirs, and they've had her since the boat came out, some time after the Cal 28 was introduced. Jerry --- On Tue, 6/17/08, u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 5:35 AM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@ ...> wrote: > > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 > 1965? > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > etc > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price > thanks again to all To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. Seller was highly motivated, as they had moved out of the area and did not want to transport. The condition was quite good except for cosmetic issues (a little wood work needed). It is our first larger sailboat and, after a couple of short sails with it, I couldn't be happier! We shopped brokers first and didn't find anything comparable for less than $20,000 with them. Dave H

thanks so much everyone..lots of good info in here sorry to send the thank you 'in general' rather than to each person but you all gave me so much feedback that I have many to thank looks like i'm going to have to beat the pavement and check them out more directly i'm sure to be back with more questions shortly..hope you don't mind thanks again for the great welcome feeling and all the feedback

would anything CAL vintage 1976/77/75 be good? i ask because of the OPEC embargo effect in that era did that carry over to CALS or are they immune? just spyed a CAL II 34 1976 for sale but don't know if i should avoid those years or not thanks again to all

I didn't know there were female seals... since when? Gerald Sobel wrote: > Yes, > A nice Cal 30 Olde went for 5 boat bucks in San Pedro, CA, a year or > so ago. Sold by female navy Seal. I went down and saw, both of them, > someone else snatched her first...I mean...the boat. > Jerry > > --- On *Tue, 6/17/08, u074036 /<u0… [at] yahoo.com>/* wrote: > > From: u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or > cal 36 '70 > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 5:35 AM > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, "Steve" <pcshredder@ ...> wrote: > > > > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and > cal 30 > > 1965? > > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > > etc > > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price > > thanks again to all > > To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal > 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan > for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. > Seller was highly motivated, as they had moved out of the area and > did not want to transport. The condition was quite good except for > cosmetic issues (a little wood work needed). It is our first larger > sailboat and, after a couple of short sails with it, I couldn't be > happier! We shopped brokers first and didn't find anything comparable > for less than $20,000 with them. > > Dave H > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@...> wrote: > > thanks so much everyone..lots of good info in here > sorry to send the thank you 'in general' rather than to each person > but you all gave me so much feedback that I have many to thank > > looks like i'm going to have to beat the pavement and check them out more directly > > i'm sure to be back with more questions shortly..hope you don't mind > > thanks again for the great welcome feeling and all the feedback There's a Cal 36 for sale in the Midwest listed in Sailing Magazine this month. I don't recall if you said where you are. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 >

Did you not see G.I. Jane? ;-) _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 I didn't know there were female seals... since when? Gerald Sobel wrote: Yes, A nice Cal 30 Olde went for 5 boat bucks in San Pedro, CA, a year or so ago. Sold by female navy Seal. I went down and saw, both of them, someone else snatched her first...I mean...the boat. Jerry --- On Tue, 6/17/08, u074036 <mailto:u0… [at] yahoo.com> <u0… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: u074036 <mailto:u0… [at] yahoo.com> <u0… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or cal 36 '70 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 5:35 AM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Steve" <pcshredder@ ...> wrote: > > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 > 1965? > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades > etc > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price > thanks again to all To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. Seller was highly motivated, as they had moved out of the area and did not want to transport. The condition was quite good except for cosmetic issues (a little wood work needed). It is our first larger sailboat and, after a couple of short sails with it, I couldn't be happier! We shopped brokers first and didn't find anything comparable for less than $20,000 with them. Dave H -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenacto <http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/> r.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

Marsh Wise wrote: > > I didn't know there were female seals... since when? > Uh, Marsh, I think that female seals are necessary to have baby seals and continue the species. Sorry, couldn't resist. Chris Campbell > >

actually no, it looked to be a bit "much" and I thought it more mindless hollywierd drivel. rick wrote: > > Did you not see G.I. Jane? ;-) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Marsh Wise > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:26 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 > or cal 36 '70 > > > > I didn't know there were female seals... since when? > > Gerald Sobel wrote: > >> Yes, >> A nice Cal 30 Olde went for 5 boat bucks in San Pedro, CA, a year or >> so ago. Sold by female navy Seal. I went down and saw, both of them, >> someone else snatched her first...I mean...the boat. >> Jerry >> >> --- On *Tue, 6/17/08, u074036 /<u0… [at] yahoo.com> >> <mailto:u0… [at] yahoo.com>/* wrote: >> >> From: u074036 <u0… [at] yahoo.com> <mailto:u0… [at] yahoo.com> >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: hi everyone, interested in a cal30 '65 or >> cal 36 '70 >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 5:35 AM >> >> --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >> <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, "Steve" <pcshredder@ ...> wrote: >> > >> > what would realistic price 'ranges' be on the cal 36 1970 and cal 30 >> > 1965? >> > I know this is not easy to peg down based on condition and upgrades >> > etc >> > hence i'm asking for a realistic range bottom to top side on price >> > thanks again to all >> >> To help on the pricing side of things, I just bought an original Cal >> 30 1966 (hull humber 84) in a private sale in Traverse City, Michigan >> for $5000, including 4 good sails and an operable Atomic 4 gas engine. >> Seller was highly motivated, as they had moved out of the area and >> did not want to transport. The condition was quite good except for >> cosmetic issues (a little wood work needed). It is our first larger >> sailboat and, after a couple of short sails with it, I couldn't be >> happier! We shopped brokers first and didn't find anything comparable >> for less than $20,000 with them. >> >> Dave H >> > > > -- > Marsh Wise > Webmaster: > -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> > > Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> > -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> > -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org> > -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ <http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/> > - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> > > Assistant Webmaster: > -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> > > Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > > Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > > Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > > Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > > *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? > Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now! > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!