I need a shower

OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my Cal 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the original beam in mine. Regards, Glen

We have a shower in our 2-29, however we never use it. When we go out we usually have our 2 teenage boys with us which means we have to restock food every 3 days. So we just put into port and use the showers there when we are stocking up. I have run the shower few times to make sure everything works and it seems to be fine. As long as the water drains past the beam ok, I think you would not have a problem with the beam. Rick Cal 2-29 "Rebecca Shea" Bellingham, Wa. _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of glen thorpe Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my Cal 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the original beam in mine. Regards, Glen

Question, doesn't the shower pan drain under the dreaded beam? Is there enough space below the beam for the water to pass without contacting the beam? Mark Cal 2-29 Pelican (purchased w/o the handheld shower) San Pedro, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: rick To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower(glen) We have a shower in our 2-29, however we never use it. When we go out we usually have our 2 teenage boys with us which means we have to restock food every 3 days. So we just put into port and use the showers there when we are stocking up. I have run the shower few times to make sure everything works and it seems to be fine. As long as the water drains past the beam ok, I think you would not have a problem with the beam. Rick Cal 2-29 "Rebecca Shea" Bellingham, Wa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of glen thorpe Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my Cal 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the original beam in mine. Regards, Glen __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3316 (20080731) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Nah, it just passes through the rust holes. ;-) Just kidding. There are channels the water passes through. Rick _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower(glen) Question, doesn't the shower pan drain under the dreaded beam? Is there enough space below the beam for the water to pass without contacting the beam? Mark Cal 2-29 Pelican (purchased w/o the handheld shower) San Pedro, CA From: rick <mailto:lr… [at] qwest.net> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower(glen) We have a shower in our 2-29, however we never use it. When we go out we usually have our 2 teenage boys with us which means we have to restock food every 3 days. So we just put into port and use the showers there when we are stocking up. I have run the shower few times to make sure everything works and it seems to be fine. As long as the water drains past the beam ok, I think you would not have a problem with the beam. Rick Cal 2-29 "Rebecca Shea" Bellingham, Wa. _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of glen thorpe Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my Cal 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the original beam in mine. Regards, Glen __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3316 (20080731) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. <http://www.eset.com> com

The ³slot² under the beam is pretty narrow and a lot of crud can channel down there through the years, stopping it up. Our late Roger Jones¹ beam design flattened the bottom radius of the beam to make that slot decidedly larger. It is definitely a good idea to back-flush that area from time to time via the bilge. Roger even suggested a 3² inspection plate in the ³tunnel² portion of the pan on the head side, which would probably facilitate clean-out as well. My shower drain holes quit draining a couple of years before my beam repair began. The beam slot was plugged with rusted beam by that time. Wilkie From: rick <lr… [at] qwest.net> Reply-To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:13:26 -0700 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower(Mark) Nah, it just passes through the rust holes. ;-) Just kidding. There are channels the water passes through. Rick From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower(glen) Question, doesn't the shower pan drain under the dreaded beam? Is there enough space below the beam for the water to pass without contacting the beam? Mark Cal 2-29 Pelican (purchased w/o the handheld shower) San Pedro, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: rick <mailto:lr… [at] qwest.net> > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:58 AM > > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower(glen) > > > > We have a shower in our 2-29, however we never use it. When we go out we > usually have our 2 teenage boys with us which means we have to restock food > every 3 days. So we just put into port and use the showers there when we are > stocking up. I have run the shower few times to make sure everything works > and it seems to be fine. As long as the water drains past the beam ok, I > think you would not have a problem with the beam. > Rick > Cal 2-29 ³Rebecca Shea² > Bellingham, Wa. > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of glen thorpe > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:11 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower > > > OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my > Cal 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on > their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the > original beam in mine. Regards, Glen > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 3316 (20080731) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com

I took my shower wand out. When I am out at the islands I just fill a sun shower with water and a add 2 quarts of hot water from the tea pot and shower in the cock pit. I didn't like the mess in the head. Plus I read somewhere, that all the hair and soap scum builds up in the bilge giving you all kinds of problems, ie... pluged bilge pumps and terrible smells. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca --- On Thu, 7/31/08, glen thorpe <gl… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: glen thorpe <gl… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:11 PM OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my Cal 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the original beam in mine. Regards, Glen

I have not taken my shower wand out but have never used it for the reasons Randy gave and mostly because of the limited water supply on board. We just returned from a trip to Desolation Sound. We carried two 4 gallon sunshowers on the deck which is of course additional to the water in the tank. The sunshowers are great. Even in partly cloudy weather, they get warm enough for a comfy bathing. When we weren¹t near a shower at a marina, a lake we could walk to, or a stream, we used them. Despite this, with a family of four we depleted our water in about 3 days just cooking and cleaning dishes. That brings me to another question (which perhaps should be another thread): Have any of you other Cal 29 owners increased your water supply? If so, what did you use for tanks? Has anyone had experience with flexible tanks and how did they work? Terry Spencer Cal 2-29 Capriccio Tacoma From: Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:26:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower I took my shower wand out. When I am out at the islands I just fill a sun shower with water and a add 2 quarts of hot water from the tea pot and shower in the cock pit. I didn't like the mess in the head. Plus I read somewhere, that all the hair and soap scum builds up in the bilge giving you all kinds of problems, ie... pluged bilge pumps and terrible smells. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca --- On Thu, 7/31/08, glen thorpe <gl… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > From: glen thorpe <gl… [at] yahoo.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:11 PM > > OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my Cal > 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on > their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the > original beam in mine. > > Regards, > Glen > >

Terry, I have three plastic containers that I got at a sporting good store. I think they hold 8 or 10 gallons each and they are compact enough to drop down into the lazarette for Island trips. I just dump one at a time into the main tank when/if I run out of main water supply. Wilkie From: Terrence Spencer <ts… [at] harbornet.com> Reply-To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:16:24 -0700 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Water supply was: I need a shower I have not taken my shower wand out but have never used it for the reasons Randy gave and mostly because of the limited water supply on board. We just returned from a trip to Desolation Sound. We carried two 4 gallon sunshowers on the deck which is of course additional to the water in the tank. The sunshowers are great. Even in partly cloudy weather, they get warm enough for a comfy bathing. When we weren¹t near a shower at a marina, a lake we could walk to, or a stream, we used them. Despite this, with a family of four we depleted our water in about 3 days just cooking and cleaning dishes. That brings me to another question (which perhaps should be another thread): Have any of you other Cal 29 owners increased your water supply? If so, what did you use for tanks? Has anyone had experience with flexible tanks and how did they work? Terry Spencer Cal 2-29 Capriccio Tacoma From: Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:26:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower I took my shower wand out. When I am out at the islands I just fill a sun shower with water and a add 2 quarts of hot water from the tea pot and shower in the cock pit. I didn't like the mess in the head. Plus I read somewhere, that all the hair and soap scum builds up in the bilge giving you all kinds of problems, ie... pluged bilge pumps and terrible smells. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca --- On Thu, 7/31/08, glen thorpe <gl… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > From: glen thorpe <gl… [at] yahoo.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] I need a shower > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:11 PM > > OK, not me personally but my boat. I would like to install a shower in my Cal > 29 but I think it may be a bad idea. Do any Cal 29 owners have showers on > their boats? Will this exacerbate the dreaded beam problem? I have the > original beam in mine. > > Regards, > Glen > >