Boot Stripe Water Line

Hi Cal List, I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just drop it in, raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom paint free, and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and now have to consider bottom paint. My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to paint to? My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt Lurking on the List Thanks Chris

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > Hi Cal List, > > I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just drop it in, > raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom paint free, > and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and now have > to consider bottom paint. > My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to > paint to? You'll probably have to launch it and mark the existing waterline. I would allow a couple of inches of bottom paint above that and then do a bootstripe. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 0 # 96 > My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. > I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt > > Lurking on the List > Thanks > > Chris >

Chris, what model of boat do you have? You might be able to work it by scaling from a photo of another boat. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Bowen Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:57 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Water Line Hi Cal List, I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just drop it in, raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom paint free, and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and now have to consider bottom paint. My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to paint to? My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt Lurking on the List Thanks Chris

Thanks, I thought I would probably do that. It was just that I seem to remember some type of conversation about a special process to find the water line, but dropping it in the water like you suggest and marking it would seem to be pretty straight forward. Thanks Again Chris Ex-Cal 2-29 Now Pacific Seacraft 20 Flicka + Vagabond 17 -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:48 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Water Line --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > Hi Cal List, > > I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just drop it in, > raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom paint free, > and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and now have > to consider bottom paint. > My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to > paint to? You'll probably have to launch it and mark the existing waterline. I would allow a couple of inches of bottom paint above that and then do a bootstripe. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 0 # 96 > My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. > I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt > > Lurking on the List > Thanks > > Chris >

If you launch at a boat yard they will put sawdust in the water and dip your boat in and out and the sawdust sticking to the hull will show you the true waterline. Kool huh? --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Chris Bowen <ck… [at] wavecable.com> wrote: From: Chris Bowen <ck… [at] wavecable.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Water Line (Mike) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:21 PM Thanks, I thought I would probably do that. It was just that I seem to remember some type of conversation about a special process to find the water line, but dropping it in the water like you suggest and marking it would seem to be pretty straight forward. Thanks Again Chris Ex-Cal 2-29 Now Pacific Seacraft 20 Flicka + Vagabond 17 From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com]On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:48 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Water Line --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > Hi Cal List, > > I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just drop it in, > raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom paint free, > and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and now have > to consider bottom paint. > My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to > paint to? You'll probably have to launch it and mark the existing waterline. I would allow a couple of inches of bottom paint above that and then do a bootstripe. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 0 # 96 > My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. > I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt > > Lurking on the List > Thanks > > Chris >

On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Chris Bowen wrote: > > Thanks, > > I thought I would probably do that. It was just that I seem to > remember some type of conversation about a special process to find > the water line, but dropping it in the water like you suggest and > marking it would seem to be pretty straight forward. There is a way to paint the boot top by using a long piece of plastic tubing (clear) filled with water to mark it and keep it level but first you have to find how it floats. Once you mark the line, you can haul it and paint the waterline as long as the boat is level in the cradle. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Thanks Again > > Chris > Ex-Cal 2-29 > Now Pacific Seacraft 20 Flicka > + Vagabond 17 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of mtkennedy1 > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:48 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Water Line > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Cal List, > > > > I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just > drop it in, > > raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom > paint free, > > and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and > now have > > to consider bottom paint. > > My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water > line to > > paint to? > > You'll probably have to launch it and mark the existing waterline. > > I would allow a couple of inches of bottom paint above that and then > do a bootstripe. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 0 # 96 > > > My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. > > I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt > > > > Lurking on the List > > Thanks > > > > Chris > > > > > >

If you can mark a point near the bow and one near the stern, you can use a laser rule to mark the whole line. This is a nifty little tool that a contractor friend may have, or you may be able to rent from a big box. It just rotates an led laser so that a straight line can be marked. With the boat in cradles, the bow and stern marks won't be level, so just tilt the laser till it crosses the marks, walk up to the boat and mark the line and tape. Only requirement is that the boat is level as to roll, and that the laser rule is at the height that is half way between the heights of the bow and stern, and is amidships. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com on behalf of Michael Kennedy Sent: Wed 8/13/2008 1:40 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Water Line (Mike) On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Chris Bowen wrote: > > Thanks, > > I thought I would probably do that. It was just that I seem to > remember some type of conversation about a special process to find > the water line, but dropping it in the water like you suggest and > marking it would seem to be pretty straight forward. There is a way to paint the boot top by using a long piece of plastic tubing (clear) filled with water to mark it and keep it level but first you have to find how it floats. Once you mark the line, you can haul it and paint the waterline as long as the boat is level in the cradle. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Thanks Again > > Chris > Ex-Cal 2-29 > Now Pacific Seacraft 20 Flicka > + Vagabond 17 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of mtkennedy1 > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:48 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Water Line > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Cal List, > > > > I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just > drop it in, > > raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom > paint free, > > and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and > now have > > to consider bottom paint. > > My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water > line to > > paint to? > > You'll probably have to launch it and mark the existing waterline. > > I would allow a couple of inches of bottom paint above that and then > do a bootstripe. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 0 # 96 > > > My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. > > I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt > > > > Lurking on the List > > Thanks > > > > Chris > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

Of course, if you want it to be REALLY pretty, you can add a bit of shear to the boot stripe. It should be proportional to the shear of your hull. It's not enough to see unless you look for it, and if you don't do it, you won't miss it, but it's one of the things that make a difference in the overall visual appeal of the boat. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com on behalf of Chris Bowen Sent: Tue 8/12/2008 8:57 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Water Line Hi Cal List, I have a question. I normally keep my boat on a trailer and just drop it in, raise the mast and rig it and all, which lets me keep the bottom paint free, and fast. However, I have finally been able to acquire a slip, and now have to consider bottom paint. My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to paint to? My boat has never had one. Always clean from the rail to the keel. I am in the Pacific Northwest - Puget Sound - Salt Lurking on the List Thanks Chris DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

mtkennedy1 wrote: > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > > My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to > > paint to? > > You'll probably have to launch it and mark the existing waterline. > > I would allow a couple of inches of bottom paint above that and then > do a bootstripe. > This is probably the best plan, because your boat's actual waterline will depend on how much equipment and miscellaneous stuff you carry. One of my boats floats a bit off her lines because of inside ballast that wasn't artfully placed. I've been moving the ballast (need to recast some lead to do it properly) because she's faster when I move crew forward. And she tends to list a bit in the slip, another sign of need to move weight around. So my point here is that putting the boat in the water long enough to let the natural waterline get marked by staining or a bit of plant growth is a good plan, but you may want to measure some to make sure it's symmetrical (boat's not listing or squatting or whatever). If the revealed waterline is not symmetrical, you may want to move stuff around before marking and painting a line. Of course, the suggestion of allowing a couple inches of bottom paint to show before adding the boottop is a good one; it allows a bit of wiggle room. I'd add that you can separate the boottop stripe from the bottom paint by 1/2" or so if you do that, making it easier to paint, repair, and maintain each of those separate paint systems. Chris Campbell > >

All Thanks for all the responses to my question. After selling my 2-29 a couple of years ago, I have kept lurking on the list for just this reason. A lot of good sailing stories and maintenance tips. I am launching this week-end and will keep her in her slip for a few days keeping track of the weight distribution, mark the water line, then pull her out and take in to account all the suggestions I have received and paint. The main thing is to get her back in the water and sail as much as I can while the weather is good. Thanks Again Chris Bowen -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:10 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Water Line mtkennedy1 wrote: --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > My question is how does one determine the boot stripe, or water line to > paint to? You'll probably have to launch it and mark the existing waterline. I would allow a couple of inches of bottom paint above that and then do a bootstripe. This is probably the best plan, because your boat's actual waterline will depend on how much equipment and miscellaneous stuff you carry. One of my boats floats a bit off her lines because of inside ballast that wasn't artfully placed. I've been moving the ballast (need to recast some lead to do it properly) because she's faster when I move crew forward. And she tends to list a bit in the slip, another sign of need to move weight around. So my point here is that putting the boat in the water long enough to let the natural waterline get marked by staining or a bit of plant growth is a good plan, but you may want to measure some to make sure it's symmetrical (boat's not listing or squatting or whatever). If the revealed waterline is not symmetrical, you may want to move stuff around before marking and painting a line. Of course, the suggestion of allowing a couple inches of bottom paint to show before adding the boottop is a good one; it allows a bit of wiggle room. I'd add that you can separate the boottop stripe from the bottom paint by 1/2" or so if you do that, making it easier to paint, repair, and maintain each of those separate paint systems. Chris Campbell