cal 29 headliner

Hi Folks, I am going to take the headliner panels on my Cal 29 and put new material on them. Should I expect any surprises?? Any suggestions? Thanks! Glen

Hi Glen, Our 1977 had the vinyl headliner. This drops about 3/8" from the cabin top. The original had plastic runners that another piece of plastic would press into to make the seam. (The cabin top also had "Santos was here" under the resin, which I thought kind of cool). We moved from the 4-panel vinyl layout to a 3-panel vinyl and used 3/8" battens. Since we added 4 runs of rope lights the cabin length, the sides were glued down and the runners screwed down on top. The vinyl was wrapped on the outer battens butted against the outer run of rope lights, and then pulled tight and stapled to the battens near the inner run of rope lights and then topped of with teak "crowns". If I had to do it over again, I'd probably do it pretty much the same way, however would have wrapped the vinyl over the inner battens and used the crowns to hind the mounting screws. Doing so would make pulling the headliner panels down for deck hardware a little easier. I'd suggest taking the ports out for the side panels. We replaced the old plastic ports with smoked tempered glass from Mark Plastics and did the headliner side panels at about the same time. Left over vinyl will become snap-in "curtains" for the new ports. Before and after photos may be found at http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/c90c?b=10 (before) and http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/c90c?b=11 If you are going the vinyl route, be sure to locate the handrail screw holes.... Best, John --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, glen thorpe <glenhove2@...> wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I am going to take the headliner panels on my Cal 29 and put new material on them. Should I expect any surprises?? Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > Glen >

John, Your headliner looks great. Did your boat come with the headliner on the side panels or was it something added later? What year is your 29? Mine had the perf vinyl headliner, but never did have any side treatments other than rolled on paint as near as I can tell. The PO added teak batten ceilings, but actually ran the very tip of some of the screws all the way through the furring strips and through the hull. I removed all and have just paint on all of the ceilings. So, I ended up copping out with a coat of flat paint on the overhead after accidentally destroying my headliner. Later, I fared and glossed it up after seeing Fin¹s 40, ³Radiant.² It looks great, but I think is workable only in Southern California or other warm climate where condensation is not usually an issue. Wilkie From: John Caldwell <ja… [at] vel.net> Reply-To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:59:16 -0000 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 29 headliner Hi Glen, Our 1977 had the vinyl headliner. This drops about 3/8" from the cabin top. The original had plastic runners that another piece of plastic would press into to make the seam. (The cabin top also had "Santos was here" under the resin, which I thought kind of cool). We moved from the 4-panel vinyl layout to a 3-panel vinyl and used 3/8" battens. Since we added 4 runs of rope lights the cabin length, the sides were glued down and the runners screwed down on top. The vinyl was wrapped on the outer battens butted against the outer run of rope lights, and then pulled tight and stapled to the battens near the inner run of rope lights and then topped of with teak "crowns". If I had to do it over again, I'd probably do it pretty much the same way, however would have wrapped the vinyl over the inner battens and used the crowns to hind the mounting screws. Doing so would make pulling the headliner panels down for deck hardware a little easier. I'd suggest taking the ports out for the side panels. We replaced the old plastic ports with smoked tempered glass from Mark Plastics and did the headliner side panels at about the same time. Left over vinyl will become snap-in "curtains" for the new ports. Before and after photos may be found at http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/c90c?b=10 (before) and http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/c90c?b=11 If you are going the vinyl route, be sure to locate the handrail screw holes.... Best, John --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , glen thorpe <glenhove2@...> wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I am going to take the headliner panels on my Cal 29 and put new material on them. Should I expect any surprises?? Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > Glen >

Hi Wilkie, Thanks for the encouraging words! She's a 1977 2-29 (#966). The side panels were OEM and was of the old-school perforated variety as was the top. We are fortunate with the SoCal climate that condensation isn't much of a problem. We'd kicked around adding some of those cool little button vents just to be on the safe side, but at the last minute decided not to. After 30 years the steel staples that held in the plastic runners were almost non-existent, and the plastic was brittle and hard to work with, and my wife wanted rope lights, so we just started over from scratch. One of the things that we wanted to do was to cover up any deck hardware coming down from the top, but also leaving it in such a way that we could drop a top panel on one side or another for access if the need occurred. If I were to do it again, I'd measure a little better on the top battens to keep the mounting screws closer to the outer edge, pull the vinyl tight to that edge, staple it up, slice a small opening for the mounting screws, pull it down, and then wrap the vinyl over the batten, staple it again, and then put it back up and cover the mounting screws with the crown. I'm really anxious to see how your teak/holly cabin sole comes out. That's on our list after we complete our repower this year. Are you planning on just doing the floor, or are you going to take it up the sides under the cabinets and settee? We're leaning to floor only and then carpet on the sides and around the table pedestal with some 1/4 round teak trim. Have you given any thought as to how you're going to work in the bilge cover? Best, John > > > John, > > Your headliner looks great. Did your boat come with the headliner on the > side panels or was it something added later? > What year is your 29? Mine had the perf vinyl headliner, but never did have > any side treatments other than rolled on paint as near as I can tell. The > PO added teak batten ceilings, but actually ran the very tip of some of the > screws all the way through the furring strips and through the hull. I > removed all and have just paint on all of the ceilings. > > So, I ended up copping out with a coat of flat paint on the overhead after > accidentally destroying my headliner. Later, I fared and glossed it up > after seeing Fin¹s 40, ³Radiant.² It looks great, but I think is workable > only in Southern California or other warm climate where condensation is not > usually an issue. > > Wilkie