Re: [Cal_Boats] CAl 29 leak (Was Out Patient Waxed)

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAl 29 leak (Was Out Patient Waxed)

2 messages2008-08-27 14:54 UTCthrough 2008-08-27 17:33 UTC

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAl 29 leak (Was Out Patient Waxed)

ld… [at] comcast.net2008-08-27 14:54 UTC
Wilkie: is the leak in the bottom of the drain or in the deck/hull joint in that area? It is a very odd setup. Les Hester 3-29#1005 Bay Breeze Swan Creek, Md. From: David Wilkie Owen <wi… [at] mariposasailing.com> Randy, You are single handedly keeping Cal 29 racing alive in these parts. I am concerned about your leak. Other than the obvious thru-hulls and shaft packing there is a �secret� leak that Cal 29�s can develop. It�s in the scupper at the aft end of the cockpit sole. When the deck half of the boat is joined to the hull half there have been instances of failure that I was made aware of by a surveyor in Seattle. It�s an easy fix but not easily detected. In following seas or sailing or motoring up near hull-speed that cockpit drain is under water. Wilkie From: Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> Reply-To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:48:47 -0700 (PDT) To: <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Out Patient Waxed In the 3 rd race of the around the island series, Out Patient a CAL 2-29 finished 5 out of 7 boats. The race started in winds less than 3 knots and dropped. We were first to the start line and had good air. A Capri 25 was on our tail. We made it to the first mark way in front of the non spin A class and some of the Spin b class. However the wind picked up and we could not hold our position. I asked my crew mate to look at the sail shape on the head sail and he responded, the top of the kevlar sail was blown. After we changed to a dacron 155 we stayed ahead of the fast boats. And slow boats if you know about the races. We got to Anacapa Island and decided to take the inside track to gain on the fast fleet. Out first tack was a disaster. I did not check the sheets and it was under the life line, we gave up our advantage. Once we recovered we headed inside to try for the flyer. After 20 tacks we made it to the other side of the island. Last on the fleet. We sailed the last 14 miles on a broad reach. We actualy started to gain on the fleet, and then they started to slip away. When I went down to grab a sandwich, we had taken on a lot of water, so much my floor boards where floating. I tried to pump out the water with the electric bilge pump but it did not keep up with the flow. After the race it seemed to be ok and all the water was pumped out and no more water leaked in. Hummmmm???? The reach to Ventura was a wild one. I kept the 155 up but had a lot of weather helm. Can you reef the main to help control the boat? I watched a lot of round ups on the way in and we stayed pointed to the mark, can you reef to keep the rudder straight? I had it hard over and was still moving at 7 knots in 20 kots of breeze. Anyway. we had a good time and looking forward to the rest of the races. Randy CAl 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca

Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 leak (Was Out Patient Waxed)

David Wilkie Owen2008-08-27 17:33 UTC
Les, It’s in the actual scupper, where a roughly 2” hole is molded into the cockpit scupper and bonded to the hull where it passes through. There are no hoses draining the 29’s cockpit. It’s a pretty easy fix, but involves glassing to do it rigid. I suppose some 5200 used as caulking would work also — applied lying on your side in the lazarettes with fingers and vinyl gloves? I had a crew member’s cell phone destroyed when he thoughtlessly used the sink in the galley as storage during a heavy air race, so I know water can come up through that sink, but on Mariposa it would drain back into the ice box since the fiddles around the counter would contain it. Wilkie From: <ld… [at] comcast.net> Reply-To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:54:49 +0000 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAl 29 leak (Was Out Patient Waxed) Wilkie: is the leak in the bottom of the drain or in the deck/hull joint in that area? It is a very odd setup. Les Hester 3-29#1005 Bay Breeze Swan Creek, Md. > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: David Wilkie Owen <wi… [at] mariposasailing.com> > > > Randy, > > You are single handedly keeping Cal 29 racing alive in these parts. > > > I am concerned about your leak. Other than the obvious thru-hulls and shaft > packing there is a „secret‰ leak that Cal 29‚s can develop. It‚s in the > scupper at the aft end of the cockpit sole. When the deck half of the boat is > joined to the hull half there have been instances of failure that I was made > aware of by a surveyor in Seattle. It‚s an easy fix but not easily detected. > In following seas or sailing or motoring up near hull-speed that cockpit drain > is under water. > > Wilkie > > >