Re: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset

I use the PHRF site. Our So Cal site gives ratings by manufacture. It also has a non spin off set rating by manufacture. My CAL 29 is rated at 177 cause of aversided spin and my off set is 17. Randy From:"r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com> Sent:Tue 9/2/08 8:03 pm To:"Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subj:[Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset once upon a time, there was a list available on the internet which specified the suggested time differential between racing with a spinnaker versus white sails only. It was a long list of boats by brand and size with the differential for each. cannot find it any more. anyone out there know wher it is? Reggie

thanks, Randy. I found the ratings by manufacturer but not the non-spin offset. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comCC: From: sa… [at] yahoo.comDate: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:22:36 -0500Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset I use the PHRF site. Our So Cal site gives ratings by manufacture. It also has a non spin off set rating by manufacture.My CAL 29 is rated at 177 cause of aversided spin and my off set is 17.Randy--- Original Message ---From:"r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com>Sent:Tue 9/2/08 8:03 pmTo:"Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>Subj:[Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offsetonce upon a time, there was a list available on the internet which specified the suggested time differential between racing with a spinnaker versus white sails only. It was a long list of boats by brand and size with the differential for each. cannot find it any more. anyone out there know wher it is?Reggie

Can I assume that this number is used when a spin boat is racing against a non-spin boat in a race (as opposed to the PHRF non-spin rating that is applied - I believe - for when all boats are non-spin in a race)? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:30 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset thanks, Randy. I found the ratings by manufacturer but not the non-spin offset. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com CC: From: sa… [at] yahoo.com Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:22:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset I use the PHRF site. Our So Cal site gives ratings by manufacture. It also has a non spin off set rating by manufacture. My CAL 29 is rated at 177 cause of aversided spin and my off set is 17. Randy From:"r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> > Sent:Tue 9/2/08 8:03 pm To:"Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> " <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Subj:[Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset once upon a time, there was a list available on the internet which specified the suggested time differential between racing with a spinnaker versus white sails only. It was a long list of boats by brand and size with the differential for each. cannot find it any more. anyone out there know wher it is? Reggie

yes!..........I think. I believe my spinaker rating is 198 and non-spin is 213, giving a spinnaker rating offset of 15. it appears we are first or second for our Tuesday night series this year, first for the Friday night series this year, and took second in our fleet last weekend at a local regatta. Go T/2! and we're still "Knot Ready"! Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: hu… [at] bah.comDate: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:34:21 -0400Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset Can I assume that this number is used when a spin boat is racing against a non-spin boat in a race (as opposed to the PHRF non-spin rating that is applied - I believe - for when all boats are non-spin in a race)? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r goodSent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:30 AMTo: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset thanks, Randy. I found the ratings by manufacturer but not the non-spin offset.Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comCC: From: sa… [at] yahoo.comDate: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:22:36 -0500Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset I use the PHRF site. Our So Cal site gives ratings by manufacture. It also has a non spin off set rating by manufacture.My CAL 29 is rated at 177 cause of aversided spin and my off set is 17.Randy--- Original Message ---From:"r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com>Sent:Tue 9/2/08 8:03 pmTo:"Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>Subj:[Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offsetonce upon a time, there was a list available on the internet which specified the suggested time differential between racing with a spinnaker versus white sails only. It was a long list of boats by brand and size with the differential for each. cannot find it any more. anyone out there know wher it is?Reggie

Reg, I believe a non-spin rating and a spinnaker offset are two different things. This is a faith-based statement. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:41 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset yes!..........I think. I believe my spinaker rating is 198 and non-spin is 213, giving a spinnaker rating offset of 15. it appears we are first or second for our Tuesday night series this year, first for the Friday night series this year, and took second in our fleet last weekend at a local regatta. Go T/2! and we're still "Knot Ready"! Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:34:21 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset Can I assume that this number is used when a spin boat is racing against a non-spin boat in a race (as opposed to the PHRF non-spin rating that is applied - I believe - for when all boats are non-spin in a race)? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:30 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset thanks, Randy. I found the ratings by manufacturer but not the non-spin offset. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com CC: From: sa… [at] yahoo.com Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:22:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset I use the PHRF site. Our So Cal site gives ratings by manufacture. It also has a non spin off set rating by manufacture. My CAL 29 is rated at 177 cause of aversided spin and my off set is 17. Randy From:"r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> > Sent:Tue 9/2/08 8:03 pm To:"Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> " <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Subj:[Cal_Boats] non-spinnaker offset once upon a time, there was a list available on the internet which specified the suggested time differential between racing with a spinnaker versus white sails only. It was a long list of boats by brand and size with the differential for each. cannot find it any more. anyone out there know wher it is? Reggie