6 messages2008-09-18 01:02 UTCthrough 2008-09-20 16:43 UTC
Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Donald Dutton2008-09-18 01:02 UTC
Ron,
I am very glad to hear that your boat survived and that you were able to prepare for the storm properly. I am disappointed to hear that there was access to the marina and boat owners still did not properly prepare their boats. A lot seems to have changed since we left in 1992.
The marinas that we were in -- Watergate and Waterford -- circulated flyers before the hurricane season detailing the required duties of the boat owner before the approach of a hurricane. ( I have personal knowledge of this since I produced the newsletter for Watergate for two years!) They also emphasiized that damage done to another boar or the piers by an unprepared boat was the responsibility of the owner. Back then, if lines needed to be doubled and the owner had not done so, the marina would do it and charge the owner for time and materials. All of this was to protect the other boats and the marina from damage if an unprepared boat were to break loose or dismast.
It seems irresponsible to me for someone to not prepare their boat when it could hurt those around them who have prepared -- luckily you didn't have neighbors like that for your boat.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Ronald Eddleman <ro… [at] yahoo.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:36:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Don:
I have a Cal 33 1988 model in the Kemah Board Walk Marina. I removed all sails and canvas, doubled up dock lines and put out every fender I could find. We survived without a scratch.
I secured the boat on Thursday night before the storm and there were still a lot of boats with furled sails still up as well as other canvas. I guess they can afford to replace them better than I can.
Ron Eddleman
From: Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:59:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
I lived in Houston for 12 years and prepared my Cal 33 for over 50 potential storms. Everyone knew to remove their headsails, take off the mains and put both down below so only bare poles were exposed. The number of boats in these pictures with canvas still up leads me to believe that the early rise in surge kept people from being able to get to the marinas to prepare their boats. I suspect that there are a lot of owners who knew what to do who simply could not get to their boats to get the job done.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: "mooserent7447@ aol.com" <mooserent7447@ aol.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
After viewing the pictures one thing stands out in my mind and that is the lack of care taken in the preperation of these vessels to withstand a huricane, example, removal of main sails and removal of roler furling sails and the number of loose dock boxes. There was plenty of warning and I realize that there isnt a lot you can do in close quarters to counteract the serge, but you can stow the sails and cut down on windage. I have been called back to work and will be sent to Huston,Galviston, or Brownsville and after spending 4months in New Orleans after Katrina I know what to expect. I will be watching the Cal web site and will assist as requested. Jim Monaghan Cal 30-2 Dolsinea P/C WLESC
From: cal40kismet <cal40kismet@ yahoo.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Ike struck Clear Lake in TX with devasting force. Some
marinas were completely destroyed. Here is a link to some pictures of
one of the Kemah boardwalk marina, which survived partially.
http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 20643417@ N03/
There is a Cal that looks like a Cal 40 in the mix.
I got a call this morning that my winter liveaboard boat (a 41 Morgan
OI), is still floating with minimal damage. She is in the Marina Del
Sol. There part of the docks are missing, and there are sunken boats.
As I write this I am sitting in my Cal 40 on a beautiful summer day in
Port Orchard WA, just back from a month and 1/2 cruise of the NW
waters. We start our fall migration to Texas this week - it is nice
to have a home to go to.
Behold the power of mother nature (and don't be there when it happens)
Hve fun
the crew of Cal 40 Kismet
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Ronald Eddleman2008-09-19 16:40 UTC
Don:
Here is a Picture of Stellar of Course, my Cal 33. Well with no damage we can continue to prepare for the Harvest Moon Regatta. I here they will still hold the race.
Ron
From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:02:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Ron,
I am very glad to hear that your boat survived and that you were able to prepare for the storm properly. I am disappointed to hear that there was access to the marina and boat owners still did not properly prepare their boats. A lot seems to have changed since we left in 1992.
The marinas that we were in -- Watergate and Waterford -- circulated flyers before the hurricane season detailing the required duties of the boat owner before the approach of a hurricane. ( I have personal knowledge of this since I produced the newsletter for Watergate for two years!) They also emphasiized that damage done to another boar or the piers by an unprepared boat was the responsibility of the owner. Back then, if lines needed to be doubled and the owner had not done so, the marina would do it and charge the owner for time and materials. All of this was to protect the other boats and the marina from damage if an unprepared boat were to break loose or dismast.
It seems irresponsible to me for someone to not prepare their boat when it could hurt those around them who have prepared -- luckily you didn't have neighbors like that for your boat.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Ronald Eddleman <ron_1056@yahoo. com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:36:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Don:
I have a Cal 33 1988 model in the Kemah Board Walk Marina. I removed all sails and canvas, doubled up dock lines and put out every fender I could find. We survived without a scratch.
I secured the boat on Thursday night before the storm and there were still a lot of boats with furled sails still up as well as other canvas. I guess they can afford to replace them better than I can.
Ron Eddleman
From: Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:59:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
I lived in Houston for 12 years and prepared my Cal 33 for over 50 potential storms. Everyone knew to remove their headsails, take off the mains and put both down below so only bare poles were exposed. The number of boats in these pictures with canvas still up leads me to believe that the early rise in surge kept people from being able to get to the marinas to prepare their boats. I suspect that there are a lot of owners who knew what to do who simply could not get to their boats to get the job done.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: "mooserent7447@ aol.com" <mooserent7447@ aol.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
After viewing the pictures one thing stands out in my mind and that is the lack of care taken in the preperation of these vessels to withstand a huricane, example, removal of main sails and removal of roler furling sails and the number of loose dock boxes. There was plenty of warning and I realize that there isnt a lot you can do in close quarters to counteract the serge, but you can stow the sails and cut down on windage. I have been called back to work and will be sent to Huston,Galviston, or Brownsville and after spending 4months in New Orleans after Katrina I know what to expect. I will be watching the Cal web site and will assist as requested. Jim Monaghan Cal 30-2 Dolsinea P/C WLESC
From: cal40kismet <cal40kismet@ yahoo.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Ike struck Clear Lake in TX with devasting force. Some
marinas were completely destroyed. Here is a link to some pictures of
one of the Kemah boardwalk marina, which survived partially.
http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 20643417@ N03/
There is a Cal that looks like a Cal 40 in the mix.
I got a call this morning that my winter liveaboard boat (a 41 Morgan
OI), is still floating with minimal damage. She is in the Marina Del
Sol. There part of the docks are missing, and there are sunken boats.
As I write this I am sitting in my Cal 40 on a beautiful summer day in
Port Orchard WA, just back from a month and 1/2 cruise of the NW
waters. We start our fall migration to Texas this week - it is nice
to have a home to go to.
Behold the power of mother nature (and don't be there when it happens)
Hve fun
the crew of Cal 40 Kismet
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
r good2008-09-19 17:49 UTC
where did you get your bimini?
Reggie
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: ro… [at] yahoo.comDate: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:40:08 -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Don:
Here is a Picture of Stellar of Course, my Cal 33. Well with no damage we can continue to prepare for the Harvest Moon Regatta. I here they will still hold the race.
Ron
----- Original Message ----From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:02:47 PMSubject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Ron,
I am very glad to hear that your boat survived and that you were able to prepare for the storm properly. I am disappointed to hear that there was access to the marina and boat owners still did not properly prepare their boats. A lot seems to have changed since we left in 1992.
The marinas that we were in -- Watergate and Waterford -- circulated flyers before the hurricane season detailing the required duties of the boat owner before the approach of a hurricane. ( I have personal knowledge of this since I produced the newsletter for Watergate for two years!) They also emphasiized that damage done to another boar or the piers by an unprepared boat was the responsibility of the owner. Back then, if lines needed to be doubled and the owner had not done so, the marina would do it and charge the owner for time and materials. All of this was to protect the other boats and the marina from damage if an unprepared boat were to break loose or dismast.
It seems irresponsible to me for someone to not prepare their boat when it could hurt those around them who have prepared -- luckily you didn't have neighbors like that for your boat.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
----- Original Message ----From: Ronald Eddleman <ron_1056@yahoo. com>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:36:50 PMSubject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Don:
I have a Cal 33 1988 model in the Kemah Board Walk Marina. I removed all sails and canvas, doubled up dock lines and put out every fender I could find. We survived without a scratch.
I secured the boat on Thursday night before the storm and there were still a lot of boats with furled sails still up as well as other canvas. I guess they can afford to replace them better than I can.
Ron Eddleman
----- Original Message ----From: Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:59:10 AMSubject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
I lived in Houston for 12 years and prepared my Cal 33 for over 50 potential storms. Everyone knew to remove their headsails, take off the mains and put both down below so only bare poles were exposed. The number of boats in these pictures with canvas still up leads me to believe that the early rise in surge kept people from being able to get to the marinas to prepare their boats. I suspect that there are a lot of owners who knew what to do who simply could not get to their boats to get the job done.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
----- Original Message ----From: "mooserent7447@ aol.com" <mooserent7447@ aol.com>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:10:02 PMSubject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
After viewing the pictures one thing stands out in my mind and that is the lack of care taken in the preperation of these vessels to withstand a huricane, example, removal of main sails and removal of roler furling sails and the number of loose dock boxes. There was plenty of warning and I realize that there isnt a lot you can do in close quarters to counteract the serge, but you can stow the sails and cut down on windage. I have been called back to work and will be sent to Huston,Galviston, or Brownsville and after spending 4months in New Orleans after Katrina I know what to expect. I will be watching the Cal web site and will assist as requested. Jim Monaghan Cal 30-2 Dolsinea P/C WLESC-----Original Message-----From: cal40kismet <cal40kismet@ yahoo.com>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 2:59 pmSubject: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Ike struck Clear Lake in TX with devasting force. Somemarinas were completely destroyed. Here is a link to some pictures ofone of the Kemah boardwalk marina, which survived partially.http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 20643417@ N03/There is a Cal that looks like a Cal 40 in the mix.I got a call this morning that my winter liveaboard boat (a 41 MorganOI), is still floating with minimal damage. She is in the Marina DelSol. There part of the docks are missing, and there are sunken boats.As I write this I am sitting in my Cal 40 on a beautiful summer day inPort Orchard WA, just back from a month and 1/2 cruise of the NWwaters. We start our fall migration to Texas this week - it is niceto have a home to go to.Behold the power of mother nature (and don't be there when it happens)Hve funthe crew of Cal 40 Kismet
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Ronald Eddleman2008-09-19 18:45 UTC
Reggie:
It was on the boat when we purchased it 6 years ago. I will have to have the fabric replaced in the near future as it is getting thin and rain just pours thru it. I wil have Banks Sails in Kemah build a new one as they ahve done a lot of work for me in the past and do good work.
Ron
From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com>
To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:49:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
where did you get your bimini?
Reggie
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
From: ron_1056@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:40:08 -0700
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Don:
Here is a Picture of Stellar of Course, my Cal 33. Well with no damage we can continue to prepare for the Harvest Moon Regatta. I here they will still hold the race.
Ron
From: Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:02:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Ron,
I am very glad to hear that your boat survived and that you were able to prepare for the storm properly. I am disappointed to hear that there was access to the marina and boat owners still did not properly prepare their boats. A lot seems to have changed since we left in 1992.
The marinas that we were in -- Watergate and Waterford -- circulated flyers before the hurricane season detailing the required duties of the boat owner before the approach of a hurricane. ( I have personal knowledge of this since I produced the newsletter for Watergate for two years!) They also emphasiized that damage done to another boar or the piers by an unprepared boat was the responsibility of the owner. Back then, if lines needed to be doubled and the owner had not done so, the marina would do it and charge the owner for time and materials. All of this was to protect the other boats and the marina from damage if an unprepared boat were to break loose or dismast.
It seems irresponsible to me for someone to not prepare their boat when it could hurt those around them who have prepared -- luckily you didn't have neighbors like that for your boat.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Ronald Eddleman <ron_1056@yahoo. com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:36:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Don:
I have a Cal 33 1988 model in the Kemah Board Walk Marina. I removed all sails and canvas, doubled up dock lines and put out every fender I could find. We survived without a scratch.
I secured the boat on Thursday night before the storm and there were still a lot of boats with furled sails still up as well as other canvas. I guess they can afford to replace them better than I can.
Ron Eddleman
From: Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:59:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
I lived in Houston for 12 years and prepared my Cal 33 for over 50 potential storms. Everyone knew to remove their headsails, take off the mains and put both down below so only bare poles were exposed. The number of boats in these pictures with canvas still up leads me to believe that the early rise in surge kept people from being able to get to the marinas to prepare their boats. I suspect that there are a lot of owners who knew what to do who simply could not get to their boats to get the job done.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: "mooserent7447@ aol.com" <mooserent7447@ aol.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
After viewing the pictures one thing stands out in my mind and that is the lack of care taken in the preperation of these vessels to withstand a huricane, example, removal of main sails and removal of roler furling sails and the number of loose dock boxes. There was plenty of warning and I realize that there isnt a lot you can do in close quarters to counteract the serge, but you can stow the sails and cut down on windage. I have been called back to work and will be sent to Huston,Galviston, or Brownsville and after spending 4months in New Orleans after Katrina I know what to expect. I will be watching the Cal web site and will assist as requested. Jim Monaghan Cal 30-2 Dolsinea P/C WLESC
From: cal40kismet <cal40kismet@ yahoo.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Ike struck Clear Lake in TX with devasting force. Some
marinas were completely destroyed. Here is a link to some pictures of
one of the Kemah boardwalk marina, which survived partially.
http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 20643417@ N03/
There is a Cal that looks like a Cal 40 in the mix.
I got a call this morning that my winter liveaboard boat (a 41 Morgan
OI), is still floating with minimal damage. She is in the Marina Del
Sol. There part of the docks are missing, and there are sunken boats.
As I write this I am sitting in my Cal 40 on a beautiful summer day in
Port Orchard WA, just back from a month and 1/2 cruise of the NW
waters. We start our fall migration to Texas this week - it is nice
to have a home to go to.
Behold the power of mother nature (and don't be there when it happens)
Hve fun
the crew of Cal 40 Kismet
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Gerald Sobel2008-09-20 16:41 UTC
Considering how few people actually use their boats in Marina del Rey, for example, this doesn't surprise me!
Jerry
Cal 24 Shpritz
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Ronald Eddleman <ro… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Ronald Eddleman <ro… [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 9:40 AM
Don:
Here is a Picture of Stellar of Course, my Cal 33. Well with no damage we can continue to prepare for the Harvest Moon Regatta. I here they will still hold the race.
Ron
From: Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:02:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Ron,
I am very glad to hear that your boat survived and that you were able to prepare for the storm properly. I am disappointed to hear that there was access to the marina and boat owners still did not properly prepare their boats. A lot seems to have changed since we left in 1992.
The marinas that we were in -- Watergate and Waterford -- circulated flyers before the hurricane season detailing the required duties of the boat owner before the approach of a hurricane. ( I have personal knowledge of this since I produced the newsletter for Watergate for two years!) They also emphasiized that damage done to another boar or the piers by an unprepared boat was the responsibility of the owner. Back then, if lines needed to be doubled and the owner had not done so, the marina would do it and charge the owner for time and materials. All of this was to protect the other boats and the marina from damage if an unprepared boat were to break loose or dismast.
It seems irresponsible to me for someone to not prepare their boat when it could hurt those around them who have prepared -- luckily you didn't have neighbors like that for your boat.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: Ronald Eddleman <ron_1056@yahoo. com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:36:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Don:
I have a Cal 33 1988 model in the Kemah Board Walk Marina. I removed all sails and canvas, doubled up dock lines and put out every fender I could find. We survived without a scratch.
I secured the boat on Thursday night before the storm and there were still a lot of boats with furled sails still up as well as other canvas. I guess they can afford to replace them better than I can.
Ron Eddleman
From: Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:59:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
I lived in Houston for 12 years and prepared my Cal 33 for over 50 potential storms. Everyone knew to remove their headsails, take off the mains and put both down below so only bare poles were exposed. The number of boats in these pictures with canvas still up leads me to believe that the early rise in surge kept people from being able to get to the marinas to prepare their boats. I suspect that there are a lot of owners who knew what to do who simply could not get to their boats to get the job done.
Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
From: "mooserent7447@ aol.com" <mooserent7447@ aol.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
After viewing the pictures one thing stands out in my mind and that is the lack of care taken in the preperation of these vessels to withstand a huricane, example, removal of main sails and removal of roler furling sails and the number of loose dock boxes. There was plenty of warning and I realize that there isnt a lot you can do in close quarters to counteract the serge, but you can stow the sails and cut down on windage. I have been called back to work and will be sent to Huston,Galviston, or Brownsville and after spending 4months in New Orleans after Katrina I know what to expect. I will be watching the Cal web site and will assist as requested. Jim Monaghan Cal 30-2 Dolsinea P/C WLESC
From: cal40kismet <cal40kismet@ yahoo.com>
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008
2:59 pm
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Ike struck Clear Lake in TX with devasting force. Some
marinas were completely destroyed. Here is a link to some pictures of
one of the Kemah boardwalk marina, which survived partially.
http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 20643417@ N03/
There is a Cal that looks like a Cal 40 in the mix.
I got a call this morning that my winter liveaboard boat (a 41 Morgan
OI), is still floating with minimal damage. She is in the Marina Del
Sol. There part of the docks are missing, and there are sunken boats.
As I write this I am sitting in my Cal 40 on a beautiful summer day in
Port Orchard WA, just back from a month and 1/2 cruise of the NW
waters. We start our fall migration to Texas this week - it is nice
to have a home to go to.
Behold the power of mother nature (and don't be there when it happens)
Hve fun
the crew
of Cal 40 Kismet
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Hurricane Ike (Ron)
Gerald Sobel2008-09-20 16:43 UTC
Considering how few people actually use their boats in Marina del Rey, for example, this doesn't surprise me!
Jerry
Cal 24 Shpritz
I am disappointed to hear that there was access to the marina and boat owners still did not properly prepare their boats. A lot seems to have changed since we left in 1992.