is this a cal??

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It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

I don't think that's a hole, I think that's the anchor. Looks like a social call to me. Didn't look like a Cal that t-boned Maltese Falcon. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com on behalf of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Thu 10/9/2008 7:33 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now! DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

nah, this was a near miss it said. It was a Nordic 40 or something that hit it. Then ran away?! How whacky, you ram the most famous sailboat of our time, then don't stop or even acknowledge it :-o Marsh Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: > It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the > Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that > is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from > paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the > scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a > taller power boat. > > Cheers > Sherlock Holmes > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Marsh Wise > *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM > *To:* Cal Boats > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? > > 1 > -- > *´¨) > ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) > (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh > ----------------------------- > Marsh Wise > Webmaster: > -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> > > Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> > -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> > -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> > -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ > - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> > > Assistant Webmaster: > -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> > > Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > > Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > > Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > > "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton > > Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > > *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? > Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now! > -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

I think it might be a Cal 27 pop-top, and I say that because the pulpit railing looks like its mounted on a stepped down foredeck. Plus it looks a little big for a Cal 25. I could be wrong though. Frans Cal 2-29 Hull# 956 Seattle, WA --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 4:33 AM It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ------------ --------- -------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenacto r.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenacto r.net/rnet_ admin/marsh/ marshblog. html> -Foresthill. US: <http://www.foresthi ll.us/> -1./Infanterie- Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23. org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenacto r.net/units/ legio_ix_ penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenacto r.net/units/ 17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenacto r.net/vaq- 33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenacto r.net/forums/ index.php> right now!

All of these pictures look like a fairly good photoshop job. If you look at the pixels closely, it looks like a classic cut and paste job and it not something that really happened. _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:42 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? nah, this was a near miss it said. It was a Nordic 40 or something that hit it. Then ran away?! How whacky, you ram the most famous sailboat of our time, then don't stop or even acknowledge it :-o Marsh Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? 1 -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now! -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

May be a Cal, but it also appears to be an example of what photojournalists were concerned with when digital came to the media. Photoshop is an amazing tool. If you look closely you can detect it. Wilkie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:28 PM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? 1 -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

Photoshop? No... Taken by well known Bay Area photogragher: © 2008 Peter Lyons / www.lyonsimaging.com Read the account in Lectronic Latitude (www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.) and you will see the photo you are refering to is not part of the collision but an EXAMPLE of boats getting too close. The article also points out the other sailboat in the same picture on the opposite side of Falcon's bow. The point of this photo was too many small boats not giving large vessel room. The same article has photos of the damage done by the Nordic 40 (not the Cal) T-boning the Maltese Falcon. Not photo shop. Mike Robinson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: da… [at] cinci.rr.comDate: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:54:32 -0400Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? All of these pictures look like a fairly good photoshop job. If you look at the pixels closely, it looks like a classic cut and paste job and it not something that really happened. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh WiseSent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:42 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? nah, this was a near miss it said. It was a Nordic 40 or something that hit it. Then ran away?! How whacky, you ram the most famous sailboat of our time, then don't stop or even acknowledge it :-oMarshHusar, Charlie [USA] wrote: It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh WiseSent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AMTo: Cal BoatsSubject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)(¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh-----------------------------Marsh WiseWebmaster:-reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html>-Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/>-1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org>-Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/- 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster:-VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT?Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now! -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)(¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh-----------------------------Marsh WiseWebmaster:-reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html>-Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/>-1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org>-Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/- 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster:-VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT?Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now! See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/

Some years ago in the Chesapeake, there was an article in the Annapolis paper about recreational boats approaching freighters under way too closely. The accompanying photo showed a CAL 25 near the bow of a freighter. However, the anchor on the freighter was obviously down, and the freighter was obviously not moving. Guess the CAL 25s are the whipping boys. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Robinson Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:55 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal??(Darr) Photoshop? No... Taken by well known Bay Area photogragher: © 2008 Peter Lyons / www.lyonsimaging.com <http://www.lyonsimaging.com/> Read the account in Lectronic Latitude (www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.) and <http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.) and> you will see the photo you are refering to is not part of the collision but an EXAMPLE of boats getting too close. The article also points out the other sailboat in the same picture on the opposite side of Falcon's bow. The point of this photo was too many small boats not giving large vessel room. The same article has photos of the damage done by the Nordic 40 (not the Cal) T-boning the Maltese Falcon. Not photo shop. Mike Robinson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: da… [at] cinci.rr.com Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:54:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? All of these pictures look like a fairly good photoshop job. If you look at the pixels closely, it looks like a classic cut and paste job and it not something that really happened. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:42 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? nah, this was a near miss it said. It was a Nordic 40 or something that hit it. Then ran away?! How whacky, you ram the most famous sailboat of our time, then don't stop or even acknowledge it :-o Marsh Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org/> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. 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Charlie - Bob Seay called me the other day and said he bought another Cal 25, was going to race in the Frostbite series and wanted to know if I wanted to crew with him. Just curious, wWill you be out there as well? Any other Cal 25's? Paul West Cal 39 Adventure Kwest From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 1:32 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? Some years ago in the Chesapeake, there was an article in the Annapolis paper about recreational boats approaching freighters under way too closely. The accompanying photo showed a CAL 25 near the bow of a freighter. However, the anchor on the freighter was obviously down, and the freighter was obviously not moving. Guess the CAL 25s are the whipping boys. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Robinson Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:55 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal??(Darr) Photoshop? No... Taken by well known Bay Area photogragher: © 2008 Peter Lyons / www.lyonsimaging.com Read the account in Lectronic Latitude (www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.) and you will see the photo you are refering to is not part of the collision but an EXAMPLE of boats getting too close. The article also points out the other sailboat in the same picture on the opposite side of Falcon's bow. The20point of this photo was too many small boats not giving large vessel room. The same article has photos of the damage done by the Nordic 40 (not the Cal) T-boning the Maltese Falcon. Not photo shop. Mike Robinson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: da… [at] cinci.rr.com Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:54:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? All of these pictures look like a fairly good photoshop job. If you look at the pixels closely, it looks like a classic cut and paste job and it not something that really happened. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:42 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? nah, this was a near miss it said. It was a Nordic 40 or something that hit it. Then ran away?! How whacky, you ram the most famous sailboat of our time, then don't stop or even acknowledge it :-o Marsh Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes =0 A From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. 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Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: > > Some years ago in the Chesapeake, there was an article in the > Annapolis paper about recreational boats approaching freighters under > way too closely. The accompanying photo showed a CAL 25 near the bow > of a freighter. However, the anchor on the freighter was obviously > down, and the freighter was obviously not moving. Guess the CAL 25s > are the whipping boys. Except that the point about small boats and big boats is worth making. There was an incident a few years ago when a salty "tall ship" was in the dredged shipping channel in Lake St. Clair (between Lakes Huron and Erie, basically) and a freighter was approaching. The helmsman asked the captain if he should move out of the channel but the capt., apparently not familiar with the hydrologic effects of very big boats in very small channels, ordered him to maintain course. The smaller vessel got sucked toward the larger one with entanglement of rigging and topmast destruction. He shoulda known better. A lot of skippers of recreational vessels know even less and do even stupider things. Reminding them about common sense is worthwhile. Chris Campbell >

You bet, Paul. I've been doing Frostbite for 30+ years. We will have at least 15 CAL 25s in the series. It is a big thing for us, one design start and all. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:39 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Frostbite Series Charlie - Bob Seay called me the other day and said he bought another Cal 25, was going to race in the Frostbite series and wanted to know if I wanted to crew with him. Just curious, wWill you be out there as well? Any other Cal 25's? Paul West Cal 39 Adventure Kwest From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 1:32 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? Some years ago in the Chesapeake, there was an article in the Annapolis paper about recreational boats approaching freighters under way too closely. The accompanying photo showed a CAL 25 near the bow of a freighter. However, the anchor on the freighter was obviously down, and the freighter was obviously not moving. Guess the CAL 25s are the whipping boys. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cal_ <mailto:Cal_?> Bo… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Robinson Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:55 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal??(Darr) Photoshop? No... Taken by well known Bay Area photogragher: © 2008 Peter Lyons / www.lyonsimaging.com <http://www.lyonsimaging.com/> Read the account in Lectronic Latitude (www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.) and <http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.)%20and> you will see the photo you are refering to is not part of the collision but an EXAMPLE of boats getting too close. The article also points out the other sailboat in the same picture on the opposite side of Falcon's bow. The point of this photo was too many small boats not giving large vessel room. The same article has photos of the damage done by the Nordic 40 (not the Cal) T-boning the Maltese Falcon. Not photo shop. Mike Robinson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: da… [at] cinci.rr.com Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:54:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? All of these pictures look like a fairly good photoshop job. If you look at the pixels closely, it looks like a classic cut and paste job and it not something that really happened. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cal_ <mailto:Cal_?> Bo… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:42 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? nah, this was a near miss it said. It was a Nordic 40 or something that hit it. Then ran away?! How whacky, you ram the most famous sailboat of our time, then don't stop or even acknowledge it :-o Marsh Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> <http://www.ir23.org/> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://w ww.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ <http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/> - 17. 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Great, thanks. I've been wanting some one design experience. Paul From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 4:52 pm Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Frostbite Series You bet, Paul. I've been doing Frostbite for 30+ years. We will have at least 15 CAL 25s in the series. It is a big thing for us, one design start and all. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:39 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Frostbite Series Charlie - Bob Seay called me the other day and said he bought another Cal 25, was going to race in the Frostbite series and wanted to know if I wanted to crew with him. Just curious, wWill you be out there as well? Any other Cal 25's? Paul West Cal 39 Adventure Kwest From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 1:32 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? Some years ago in the Chesapeake, there was an article in the Annapolis paper about recreational boats approaching freighters under way too closely. The accompanying photo showed a CAL 25 near the bow of a freighter. However, the anchor on the freighter was obviously down, and the freighter was obviously not moving. Guess the CAL 25s are the whipping boys . Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Robinson Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:55 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal??(Darr) Photoshop? No... Taken by well known Bay Area photogragher: © 2008 Peter Lyons / www.lyonsimaging.com Read the account in Lectronic Latitude (www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.) and you will see the photo you are refering to is not part of the collision but an EXAMPLE of boats getting too close. The article also points out the other sailboat in the same picture on the opposite side of Falcon's bow. The point of this photo was too many small boats not giving large vessel room. The same article has photos of the damage done by the Nordic 40 (not the Cal) T-boning the Maltese Falcon. Not photo shop. Mike Robinson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: da… [at] cinci.rr.com Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:54:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? All of these pictures look like a fairly good photoshop job. If you look at the pixels closely, it looks like a classic cut and paste job and it not something that really happened. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:42 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? nah, this was a near miss it said. It was a Nordic 40 or something that hit it. Then ran away?! How whacky, you ram the most famous sailboat of our time, then don't stop or even acknowledge it :-o Marsh Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: It is indeed a CAL 25, Marsh. But if that is really a hole on the Falcon, I fail to see how a CAL 25 could have made it. Unless that is, the CAL 25 has lifting foils and the Maltese Falcon is made from paper maché. Also note that there is not a lot of running to the scene on board the Falcon. I think the hole came earlier from a taller power boat. Cheers Sherlock Holmes From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:28 AM To: Cal Boats Subject: [Cal_Boats] is this a cal?? -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://w w.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. 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