Re: Trip from Cape Cod? was:RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20

Jerry, if Chris were to sail his new CAL 20 home from it's present location, he will not need to go anywhere near Monomoy Island if that is the "washing machine" that you refer to. The 20 is located at the Mass Military Reservation at the West "coast" of the Cape....so he would most likely launch in Bourne into my home waters of Buzzards Bay, a great cruising area with a lot of harbors. Or launching could be in Falmouth, avoiding the typically upwind beat down Buzzards Bay, then West to Long Island Sound. Monomoy is 45 miles East of Falmouth, in other words.....45 miles in the opposite direction. That "washing machine" at Monomoy was one reason that the Early settlers of Plymouth explored building a canal across the Cape, and in 1914 the Cape Cod Canal was finally opened to shipping, allowing ships to avoid the whole mess of going East around the Outer Cape as well as Nantucket. Unfortunately, many of the largest ships still have to go offshore.....but most transit the Canal cutting 135 miles off a trip from Boston to New York. His "Dream Trip" is very doable, my Dad sailed our CAL 21 home to Wareham from Cranston, RI. (upper Narraganset Bay to upper Buzzards Bay) Not as far as Chris's trip, and in the opposite direction....but he did it in a weekend's time with one of his friends as crew. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY Day Sailer II and former co-owner of "NODROG", 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:55:38 -0800 (PST) Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> writes: Oh boulderdash! We have on this list a fellow who first sailed to the CCCCCCCC up wind into 26 knots of wind and stormy seas from Dana Point, single handed....on his Cal 20 (Cal Club Catalina Champagne Caper Convention Conclave and..in was it April 2004??) I know we had our hands full sailing there down wind from Marina del Rey on my Cal 24. He then sailed, single handed, his Cal 20 up the California Coast, past the Cape Horn of the Pacific, up the rough and tumble California coast to San Francisco....and back. So your little trip down from Cape Cod is no sweat. Just study your charts so you don't get caught in the washing machine south of Cape Cod that nearly wreaked the Mayflower in 1620. Take an experienced crew if you're unsure. Taking a trailer might be more dangerous. I believe the Cal 20 won the Swiftsure race off the Puget Sound/ Washington coast when it was introduced in the mid sixties. It's a very seaworthy mini-ocean racer. Jerry Sobel Cal 24, Shpritz. --- On Mon, 2/9/09, r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:30 PM how could anyone not buy a boat that cute! Reggie To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com CC: clcampbell@charteri nternet.com; rjohnson24@juno. com From: chris123@magma. ca Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:50:01 -0500 Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Greets: Well after three years and I don't know how many months, I'm finally the proud owner of 20 feet of CAL for less then 400 bucks complete with sails. Thanks to all for the inspiration, listening to my bantering questions and what not else. It was Rodney G. J's post of 2009-01-07 that I revisited a few weeks back that led to this purchase. So its all his fault. While a distraction from selling the house, researching cruising vessels with the eventual purchase of a 30-35 coastal cruiser all coming down the pipe, its nice to have a simple boat, sail ready and just go and relax once the spring comes. Basically its a gift and one that I could not turn down. The other rationalization is of course sail training. Woohooo....me' s drive'n a CAL. Well in the spring at least when I pick it up. Considered sailing it home from Cape Cod via New York, Hudson and Erie Canal system...that thought lasted all of ten minutes. Will use the trailer instead..:) -- /ch Click now for good looking, long lasting shelving! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1xzQCfXI5kv1gnjp5vQ1Nky0rY6WioP6B0bT1KHGuLPrVt8/

Jerry, if Chris were to sail his new CAL 20 home from it's present location, he will not need to go anywhere near Monomoy Island if that is the "washing machine" that you refer to. The 20 is located at the Mass Military Reservation at the West "coast" of the Cape....so he would most likely launch in Bourne into my home waters of Buzzards Bay, a great cruising area with a lot of harbors. Or launching could be in Falmouth, avoiding the typically upwind beat down Buzzards Bay, then West to Long Island Sound. Monomoy is 45 miles East of Falmouth, in other words.....45 miles in the opposite direction. That "washing machine" at Monomoy was one reason that the Early settlers of Plymouth explored building a canal across the Cape, and in 1914 the Cape Cod Canal was finally opened to shipping, allowing ships to avoid the whole mess of going East around the Outer Cape as well as Nantucket. Unfortunately, many of the largest ships still have to go offshore.....but most transit the Canal cutting 135 miles off a trip from Boston to New York. His "Dream Trip" is very doable, my Dad sailed our CAL 21 home to Wareham from Cranston, RI. (upper Narraganset Bay to upper Buzzards Bay) Not as far as Chris's trip, and in the opposite direction....but he did it in a weekend's time with one of his friends as crew. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY Day Sailer II and former co-owner of "NODROG", 1970 CAL 21 #285 PS: The trailer will be quicker! Free information - Learn about IRS Tax Solutions. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw22Y8domcMcx3JT6cfiKHCw4xm7JThWCYxqrLQWGr6ncF7jQ/

On Tuesday 10 February 2009 11:34:50 Rodney G Johnson wrote: > Jerry, if Chris were to sail his new CAL 20 home from it's present > location, he will not need to go anywhere near Monomoy Island if that is > the "washing machine" that you refer to. Jerry isnt there also something "unigue" about the waters as you exit the Canal going south. Friend went through there a few months back in his E-35 and reported very strong standing waves when the wind was in the right direction. In fact he had to lay over somewhere long the coast that night till the winds changed as he simply could not power through them. Just wondering and yes I will complete the delivery by trailer as I don't have a month to spare at this time. Still have to work, even though I'm self employed. -- /ch

Chris, yes the West End of the Canal can get "hairy" to say the least! It is never a fun place with an outgoing tide and a typical Buzzards Bay afternoon Southwest wind......well ,maybe fun in an offshore ocean racing powerboat! I have seen 30-40' sailboats powering out through that stretch and seeing their bows rise to a sea enough to see the leading edge of the keel. The waves are smaller if you get out of the main channel, and the water is pretty deep between the channel and the West end breakwater, local knowledge helps! However......it's "home" to me....but I avoid the area in the mid-to-late afternoon if the current is flowing West! The smart skipper will go into Onset Harbor if heading West ("Southbound") or Red Brook Harbor if planning an Eastbound passage (heading North) to spend the night before transiting the West Entrance during the morning. The current flowing through the Canal averages 5 knots......so it is wise to go with the current through the land cut, getting from Onset to the end of the West breakwater is not hard even against the current (that is out beyond the land cut part of the Canal and the current, while still strong is not as confined. Of course the large natural waves are also added to the wakes of the many Sport fish boats and yachts that don't tend to think that the 10 mph speed limit in the Canal applies to them! It does, but they tend to play dumb when stopped! Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY Day Sailer II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:03:33 -0500 Chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> writes: On Tuesday 10 February 2009 11:34:50 Rodney G Johnson wrote: > Jerry, if Chris were to sail his new CAL 20 home from it's present > location, he will not need to go anywhere near Monomoy Island if that is > the "washing machine" that you refer to. Jerry isnt there also something "unigue" about the waters as you exit the Canal going south. Friend went through there a few months back in his E-35 and reported very strong standing waves when the wind was in the right direction. In fact he had to lay over somewhere long the coast that night till the winds changed as he simply could not power through them. Just wondering and yes I will complete the delivery by trailer as I don't have a month to spare at this time. Still have to work, even though I'm self employed. -- /ch Free information on accounting careers, $150 hour potential. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TjYgb4V2hYzvF0HObL8eeN8Yt7YvykEEcSEu6qpk015QBo/

Chris, yes the West End of the Canal can get "hairy" to say the least! It is never a fun place with an outgoing tide and a typical Buzzards Bay afternoon Southwest wind......well, maybe fun in an offshore ocean racing powerboat! I have seen 30-40' sailboats powering out through that stretch and seeing their bows rise to a sea enough to see the leading edge of the keel. The waves are smaller if you get out of the main channel, and the water is pretty deep between the channel and the West end breakwater, local knowledge helps! However......it's "home" to me....but I avoid the area in the mid-to-late afternoon if the current is flowing West! The smart skipper will go into Onset Harbor if heading West ("Southbound") or Red Brook Harbor if planning an Eastbound passage (heading North) to spend the night before transiting the West Entrance during the morning. The current flowing through the Canal averages 5 knots......so it is wise to go with the current through the land cut, getting from Onset to the end of the West breakwater is not hard even against the current (that is out beyond the land cut part of the Canal and the current, while still strong is not as confined. Of course the large natural waves are also added to the wakes of the many Sport fish boats and yachts that don't tend to think that the 10 mph speed limit in the Canal applies to them! It does, but they tend to play dumb when stopped! Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY Day Sailer II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 PS: For some reason, YAHOO keeps deleting my replies and just reposting the message that I reply to.... On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:03:33 -0500 Chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> writes: FTD.com Shop now and save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/u4MuScM2CQRCmeOdPshJh7xxg9ravm8E3NzirOKe5b5VhnpRB3hsK/