Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (read h)

Plywood core Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu Feb 12 07:51:59 2009 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Do the 40s have balsa core decks? Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com From: Patrick Fiega <pf… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:44:04 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Read, I personally have not seen a problem with the decks. Considering the way everything was bedded down over the last 40 years, I really should have deck problems...but I do not. I am currently pulling everything up off the decks, painting, epoxying and rebedding. Patrick From: Read <rshowarth@yahoo. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com<http://ps.com/> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:31:37 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Patrick Thanks the infamous mast step This is just the kind of information I was looking for. What about the decks? Do they have a Balsa core? Usually need a recore? Read --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com<http://ps.com/>, Patrick Fiega <pfiega@...> wrote: > > Read, > > I am unsure of the original engine configuration as I have a boat that was repowered in 1996 with a 50 hp Yanmar. I have been on board about 6 other Cal 40's and the configuration was all very similar. There were not many changes but a few minor ones. > > The big issues that I have encountered is the infamous mast step and some weak bulkheads. The boat that I have was neglected for a number of years which caused some woodwork issues but that does not stop me from sailing. The mast step was made of steel and in most Cal 40's (and other Cal's also) it has rusted out to the point that is making me very nervous. I will not sail this boat again until it replaced, making this my very next project. I have found that I can have the mast step made in steel for about 1600.00 and in 316 stainless for about 2,600.00. It will take me about two weeks to pull and replace it (In boat time that means it will take at least a month). > > The only other issues that I can see is fresh water storage and holding tank size. All of these issues can be dealt with in numerous ways. > > Let me know if you have anyother questions. > > Patrick > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: "rshowarth@. .." rshowarth@.. . > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:22:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Patrick > > Thanks for the reply. Now that is an endorsement! > > Did the Cal 40 come in different cabin configurations? > > If so, which one is more desireable? > > What engine did it come with? > > What should the engine be replaced with? > > What equipment should you look for? > > What weaknesses should you look for in a survey. > > What structural problems should you look for? > > > Sorry, looking for everything at once. Did any magazine write an article on this? > > > Read > > > > > > > > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > 305 Kenwood Drive > Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 > 856-857-4140 > rshowarth@yahoo. com > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Patrick Fiega > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:22:13 -0800 (PST) > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > Read, > > You just can't beat the Cal 40. I purchased mine and fell in love the first time the sails went up. It sails better then any boat I have ever been on. The ease of sailing is almost unbelievable, very forgiving and yet fast. I am sailing when most of my friends in the Galveston Bay area are motoring due to lack of wind yet when the wind is ripping it is a great ride. > > I live aboard my Cal40 and find it to be a very comfortable life. Have had other boats before this one and really enjoy the layout. If you can find one, I recommend you latch on to her and never let her go. > > > Wheee Dogggie > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:02:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Thank you for your comments > > Wet never bothered me, especially if the air temperature is at SoCal temps. Now I just need a Cal 20 with trailer at Chris H's level. > > So far it seems to me the Cal 40 is the king for size and performance. > > The Cal 46 looks extremely comfortable and would make a great liveaboard. > > The Cal 36, do I have this right?, comes in a cruising version like a smaller Cal 46 and a racing/cruising version like a small 40? Or is it a Cal 35 that is a smaller Cal 40? > > I need someone with an excel spreadsheet top compare and contrast the baots. > > Regards > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lord Nougat <lord_nougat@ yahoo.com<http://yahoo.com/>> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:14:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > The only wetter boat I've sailed than a Cal 20 was a Capri 14. We cruise our little boat to Catalina all the time; weather allowing. I'm sure with a "real" cruising boat, that trip would be a snap and get tiresome - but then we have lots of other islands too; my boat partner has been wanting to try a nice voyage visiting Catalina, San Clemente, and then San Nicolas islands, dropping the hook at each and enjoying what some have called "the most beautiful place on earth". > > Get a Cal 20, they're way cooler than Harbor 20s! > Of course, if you end up with a Cal 40, that's like the ultimate, so you'll be set. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:25:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris H- > > Thank you for your posts > > I sail a Mariner here in New Jersey. > > I may be moving to the Los Angeles area. > > I have been interested in Harbor 20s as a replacement as they have Fleets in the area and do not race with Spinnakers. Also, solo racing is possible. > > I have joined this site because I feel my future may have a Cal 36 or 40 in it. > > Is it true that cruising areas in Southern California is very lmited as far as interest? > > I am told that other than Catalina Island there is little to recommend the local weekend cruising grounds. Sounds like I would want to live aboard a cruising boat in LA or keep one near the San Juan Islands.? > > For the short term: > > However, I can see a Cal 20 would likely provide me the fun of club racing I so much enjoy now with my Mariner, and at much less initial cost since the Harbor 20s are relatively new. > > Are the Cal 20s dry sailed? > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@ bah.com<http://bah.com/>> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:45:25 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris, One of my CAL 25s is named Fahrvergnügen ("The Pleasure of Driving" from the old Volks ads). My mainsail cover logo is indeed Ü since the name is so long. > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Chris h > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:21 AM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 > > On Monday 09 February 2009 18:07:59 Chris h wrote: > > Last issue on this boat and then she's been put to bed till I retrieve her in the spring. Everything has been sorted. Manuals downloaded (amazingly detailed), supplier lists collected, trailer organized, joined cal-20 forums on cal20.com<http://cal20.com/>, etc etc. > > The last issue was coming up with a name. In an off line discussion with Chris C, we were both commenting on what little darlings these boats were, things of beauty. So I played with those ideas came up with nothing that was not too corny for me or the fellow who will propably end up with this boat. > > So looked at a German English dictionary as German is my mother tongue (haven't had a chance to use it in years) and came up with svGluckspilz with two dots over the "u" While its a tough pronunciation in English, it captures my sentiments on this boat to a tee. A Gluckspiltz is a lucky mushroom kinda like a shamrock in English, as a literal translation. In slang, it means a good luck charm and/or lucky bugger. I guess I got really lucky with this little gem. Denaming and naming ceremonies can be such fun..:) > > End of story till spring. > > -- > /ch > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links >

Thanks Read S. Howarth 305 Kenwood Drive Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 856-857-4140 rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: <ti… [at] ch2m.com> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:04:29 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (read h) Plywood core Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu Feb 12 07:51:59 2009 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Do the 40s have balsa core decks? Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com From: Patrick Fiega <pf… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:44:04 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Read, I personally have not seen a problem with the decks. Considering the way everything was bedded down over the last 40 years, I really should have deck problems...but I do not. I am currently pulling everything up off the decks, painting, epoxying and rebedding. Patrick From: Read <rshowarth@yahoo. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com<http://ps.com/> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:31:37 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Patrick Thanks the infamous mast step This is just the kind of information I was looking for. What about the decks? Do they have a Balsa core? Usually need a recore? Read --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com<http://ps.com/>, Patrick Fiega <pfiega@...> wrote: > > Read, > > I am unsure of the original engine configuration as I have a boat that was repowered in 1996 with a 50 hp Yanmar. I have been on board about 6 other Cal 40's and the configuration was all very similar. There were not many changes but a few minor ones. > > The big issues that I have encountered is the infamous mast step and some weak bulkheads. The boat that I have was neglected for a number of years which caused some woodwork issues but that does not stop me from sailing. The mast step was made of steel and in most Cal 40's (and other Cal's also) it has rusted out to the point that is making me very nervous. I will not sail this boat again until it replaced, making this my very next project. I have found that I can have the mast step made in steel for about 1600.00 and in 316 stainless for about 2,600.00. It will take me about two weeks to pull and replace it (In boat time that means it will take at least a month). > > The only other issues that I can see is fresh water storage and holding tank size. All of these issues can be dealt with in numerous ways. > > Let me know if you have anyother questions. > > Patrick > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: "rshowarth@. .." rshowarth@.. . > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:22:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Patrick > > Thanks for the reply. Now that is an endorsement! > > Did the Cal 40 come in different cabin configurations? > > If so, which one is more desireable? > > What engine did it come with? > > What should the engine be replaced with? > > What equipment should you look for? > > What weaknesses should you look for in a survey. > > What structural problems should you look for? > > > Sorry, looking for everything at once. Did any magazine write an article on this? > > > Read > > > > > > > > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > 305 Kenwood Drive > Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 > 856-857-4140 > rshowarth@yahoo. com > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Patrick Fiega > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:22:13 -0800 (PST) > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > Read, > > You just can't beat the Cal 40. I purchased mine and fell in love the first time the sails went up. It sails better then any boat I have ever been on. The ease of sailing is almost unbelievable, very forgiving and yet fast. I am sailing when most of my friends in the Galveston Bay area are motoring due to lack of wind yet when the wind is ripping it is a great ride. > > I live aboard my Cal40 and find it to be a very comfortable life. Have had other boats before this one and really enjoy the layout. If you can find one, I recommend you latch on to her and never let her go. > > > Wheee Dogggie > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:02:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Thank you for your comments > > Wet never bothered me, especially if the air temperature is at SoCal temps. Now I just need a Cal 20 with trailer at Chris H's level. > > So far it seems to me the Cal 40 is the king for size and performance. > > The Cal 46 looks extremely comfortable and would make a great liveaboard. > > The Cal 36, do I have this right?, comes in a cruising version like a smaller Cal 46 and a racing/cruising version like a small 40? Or is it a Cal 35 that is a smaller Cal 40? > > I need someone with an excel spreadsheet top compare and contrast the baots. > > Regards > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lord Nougat <lord_nougat@ yahoo.com<http://yahoo.com/>> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:14:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > The only wetter boat I've sailed than a Cal 20 was a Capri 14. We cruise our little boat to Catalina all the time; weather allowing. I'm sure with a "real" cruising boat, that trip would be a snap and get tiresome - but then we have lots of other islands too; my boat partner has been wanting to try a nice voyage visiting Catalina, San Clemente, and then San Nicolas islands, dropping the hook at each and enjoying what some have called "the most beautiful place on earth". > > Get a Cal 20, they're way cooler than Harbor 20s! > Of course, if you end up with a Cal 40, that's like the ultimate, so you'll be set. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:25:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris H- > > Thank you for your posts > > I sail a Mariner here in New Jersey. > > I may be moving to the Los Angeles area. > > I have been interested in Harbor 20s as a replacement as they have Fleets in the area and do not race with Spinnakers. Also, solo racing is possible. > > I have joined this site because I feel my future may have a Cal 36 or 40 in it. > > Is it true that cruising areas in Southern California is very lmited as far as interest? > > I am told that other than Catalina Island there is little to recommend the local weekend cruising grounds. Sounds like I would want to live aboard a cruising boat in LA or keep one near the San Juan Islands.? > > For the short term: > > However, I can see a Cal 20 would likely provide me the fun of club racing I so much enjoy now with my Mariner, and at much less initial cost since the Harbor 20s are relatively new. > > Are the Cal 20s dry sailed? > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@ bah.com<http://bah.com/>> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:45:25 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris, One of my CAL 25s is named Fahrvergnügen ("The Pleasure of Driving" from the old Volks ads). My mainsail cover logo is indeed Ü since the name is so long. > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Chris h > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:21 AM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 > > On Monday 09 February 2009 18:07:59 Chris h wrote: > > Last issue on this boat and then she's been put to bed till I retrieve her in the spring. Everything has been sorted. Manuals downloaded (amazingly detailed), supplier lists collected, trailer organized, joined cal-20 forums on cal20.com<http://cal20.com/>, etc etc. > > The last issue was coming up with a name. In an off line discussion with Chris C, we were both commenting on what little darlings these boats were, things of beauty. So I played with those ideas came up with nothing that was not too corny for me or the fellow who will propably end up with this boat. > > So looked at a German English dictionary as German is my mother tongue (haven't had a chance to use it in years) and came up with svGluckspilz with two dots over the "u" While its a tough pronunciation in English, it captures my sentiments on this boat to a tee. A Gluckspiltz is a lucky mushroom kinda like a shamrock in English, as a literal translation. In slang, it means a good luck charm and/or lucky bugger. I guess I got really lucky with this little gem. Denaming and naming ceremonies can be such fun..:) > > End of story till spring. > > -- > /ch > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links >

please change the subject line rs… [at] yahoo.com wrote: > Thanks Read S. Howarth 305 Kenwood Drive Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 856-857-4140 rshowarth@yahoo. com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From : Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:04:29 -0700 To : <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject : Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (read h) Plywood core Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From : Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com To : Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent : Thu Feb 12 07:51:59 2009 Subject : Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Do the 40s have balsa core decks? Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rshowarth@yahoo. com From: Patrick Fiega <pfiega@yahoo. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:44:04 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Read, I personally have not seen a problem with the decks. Considering the way everything was bedded down over the last 40 years, I really should have deck problems...but I do not. I am currently pulling everything up off the decks, painting, epoxying and rebedding. Patrick From: Read <rshowarth@yahoo. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:31:37 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Patrick Thanks the infamous mast step This is just the kind of information I was looking for. What about the decks? Do they have a Balsa core? Usually need a recore? Read --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com , Patrick Fiega <pfiega@...> wrote: > > Read, > > I am unsure of the original engine configuration as I have a boat that was repowered in 1996 with a 50 hp Yanmar. I have been on board about 6 other Cal 40's and the configuration was all very similar. There were not many changes but a few minor ones. > > The big issues that I have encountered is the infamous mast step and some weak bulkheads. The boat that I have was neglected for a number of years which caused some woodwork issues but that does not stop me from sailing. The mast step was made of steel and in most Cal 40's (and other Cal's also) it has rusted out to the point that is making me very nervous. I will not sail this boat again until it replaced, making this my very next project. I have found that I can have the mast step made in steel for about 1600.00 and in 316 stainless for about 2,600.00. It will take me about two weeks to pull and replace it (In boat time that means it will take at least a month). > > The only other issues that I can see is fresh water storage and holding tank size. All of these issues can be dealt with in numerous ways. > > Let me know if you have anyother questions. > > Patrick > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: "rshowarth@. .." rshowarth@.. . > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:22:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Patrick > > Thanks for the reply. Now that is an endorsement! > > Did the Cal 40 come in different cabin configurations? > > If so, which one is more desireable? > > What engine did it come with? > > What should the engine be replaced with? > > What equipment should you look for? > > What weaknesses should you look for in a survey. > > What structural problems should you look for? > > > Sorry, looking for everything at once. Did any magazine write an article on this? > > > Read > > > > > > > > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > 305 Kenwood Drive > Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 > 856-857-4140 > rshowarth@yahoo. com > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Patrick Fiega > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:22:13 -0800 (PST) > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > Read, > > You just can't beat the Cal 40. I purchased mine and fell in love the first time the sails went up. It sails better then any boat I have ever been on. The ease of sailing is almost unbelievable, very forgiving and yet fast. I am sailing when most of my friends in the Galveston Bay area are motoring due to lack of wind yet when the wind is ripping it is a great ride. > > I live aboard my Cal40 and find it to be a very comfortable life. Have had other boats before this one and really enjoy the layout. If you can find one, I recommend you latch on to her and never let her go. > > > Wheee Dogggie > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:02:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Thank you for your comments > > Wet never bothered me, especially if the air temperature is at SoCal temps. Now I just need a Cal 20 with trailer at Chris H's level. > > So far it seems to me the Cal 40 is the king for size and performance. > > The Cal 46 looks extremely comfortable and would make a great liveaboard. > > The Cal 36, do I have this right?, comes in a cruising version like a smaller Cal 46 and a racing/cruising version like a small 40? Or is it a Cal 35 that is a smaller Cal 40? > > I need someone with an excel spreadsheet top compare and contrast the baots. > > Regards > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lord Nougat <lord_nougat@ yahoo.com > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:14:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > The only wetter boat I've sailed than a Cal 20 was a Capri 14. We cruise our little boat to Catalina all the time; weather allowing. I'm sure with a "real" cruising boat, that trip would be a snap and get tiresome - but then we have lots of other islands too; my boat partner has been wanting to try a nice voyage visiting Catalina, San Clemente, and then San Nicolas islands, dropping the hook at each and enjoying what some have called "the most beautiful place on earth". > > Get a Cal 20, they're way cooler than Harbor 20s! > Of course, if you end up with a Cal 40, that's like the ultimate, so you'll be set. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:25:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris H- > > Thank you for your posts > > I sail a Mariner here in New Jersey. > > I may be moving to the Los Angeles area. > > I have been interested in Harbor 20s as a replacement as they have Fleets in the area and do not race with Spinnakers. Also, solo racing is possible. > > I have joined this site because I feel my future may have a Cal 36 or 40 in it. > > Is it true that cruising areas in Southern California is very lmited as far as interest? > > I am told that other than Catalina Island there is little to recommend the local weekend cruising grounds. Sounds like I would want to live aboard a cruising boat in LA or keep one near the San Juan Islands.? > > For the short term: > > However, I can see a Cal 20 would likely provide me the fun of club racing I so much enjoy now with my Mariner, and at much less initial cost since the Harbor 20s are relatively new. > > Are the Cal 20s dry sailed? > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@ bah.com > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:45:25 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris, One of my CAL 25s is named Fahrvergnügen ("The Pleasure of Driving" from the old Volks ads). My mainsail cover logo is indeed Ü since the name is so long. > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Chris h > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:21 AM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 > > On Monday 09 February 2009 18:07:59 Chris h wrote: > > Last issue on this boat and then she's been put to bed till I retrieve her in the spring. Everything has been sorted. Manuals downloaded (amazingly detailed), supplier lists collected, trailer organized, joined cal-20 forums on cal20.com , etc etc. > > The last issue was coming up with a name. In an off line discussion with Chris C, we were both commenting on what little darlings these boats were, things of beauty. So I played with those ideas came up with nothing that was not too corny for me or the fellow who will propably end up with this boat. > > So looked at a German English dictionary as German is my mother tongue (haven't had a chance to use it in years) and came up with svGluckspilz with two dots over the "u" While its a tough pronunciation in English, it captures my sentiments on this boat to a tee. A Gluckspiltz is a lucky mushroom kinda like a shamrock in English, as a literal translation. In slang, it means a good luck charm and/or lucky bugger. I guess I got really lucky with this little gem. Denaming and naming ceremonies can be such fun..:) > > End of story till spring. > > -- > /ch > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > >

Read S. Howarth 305 Kenwood Drive Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 856-857-4140 rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:06:55 To: rs… [at] yahoo.com<rs… [at] yahoo.com> Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (read h) please change the subject line rs… [at] yahoo.com wrote: > Thanks Read S. Howarth 305 Kenwood Drive Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 856-857-4140 rshowarth@yahoo. com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From : Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:04:29 -0700 To : <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject : Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (read h) Plywood core Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From : Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com To : Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent : Thu Feb 12 07:51:59 2009 Subject : Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Do the 40s have balsa core decks? Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rshowarth@yahoo. com From: Patrick Fiega <pfiega@yahoo. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:44:04 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Read, I personally have not seen a problem with the decks. Considering the way everything was bedded down over the last 40 years, I really should have deck problems...but I do not. I am currently pulling everything up off the decks, painting, epoxying and rebedding. Patrick From: Read <rshowarth@yahoo. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:31:37 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: CAL-20 Name (Chris H) Patrick Thanks the infamous mast step This is just the kind of information I was looking for. What about the decks? Do they have a Balsa core? Usually need a recore? Read --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com , Patrick Fiega <pfiega@...> wrote: > > Read, > > I am unsure of the original engine configuration as I have a boat that was repowered in 1996 with a 50 hp Yanmar. I have been on board about 6 other Cal 40's and the configuration was all very similar. There were not many changes but a few minor ones. > > The big issues that I have encountered is the infamous mast step and some weak bulkheads. The boat that I have was neglected for a number of years which caused some woodwork issues but that does not stop me from sailing. The mast step was made of steel and in most Cal 40's (and other Cal's also) it has rusted out to the point that is making me very nervous. I will not sail this boat again until it replaced, making this my very next project. I have found that I can have the mast step made in steel for about 1600.00 and in 316 stainless for about 2,600.00. It will take me about two weeks to pull and replace it (In boat time that means it will take at least a month). > > The only other issues that I can see is fresh water storage and holding tank size. All of these issues can be dealt with in numerous ways. > > Let me know if you have anyother questions. > > Patrick > > > > >________________________________ > From: "rshowarth@. .." rshowarth@.. . > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:22:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Patrick > > Thanks for the reply. Now that is an endorsement! > > Did the Cal 40 come in different cabin configurations? > > If so, which one is more desireable? > > What engine did it come with? > > What should the engine be replaced with? > > What equipment should you look for? > > What weaknesses should you look for in a survey. > > What structural problems should you look for? > > > Sorry, looking for everything at once. Did any magazine write an article on this? > > > Read > > > > > > > > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > 305 Kenwood Drive > Moorestown, New Jersey 08057 > 856-857-4140 > rshowarth@yahoo. com > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >________________________________ > From: Patrick Fiega > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:22:13 -0800 (PST) > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > Read, > > You just can't beat the Cal 40. I purchased mine and fell in love the first time the sails went up. It sails better then any boat I have ever been on. The ease of sailing is almost unbelievable, very forgiving and yet fast. I am sailing when most of my friends in the Galveston Bay area are motoring due to lack of wind yet when the wind is ripping it is a great ride. > > I live aboard my Cal40 and find it to be a very comfortable life. Have had other boats before this one and really enjoy the layout. If you can find one, I recommend you latch on to her and never let her go. > > > Wheee Dogggie > > >________________________________ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:02:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Thank you for your comments > > Wet never bothered me, especially if the air temperature is at SoCal temps. Now I just need a Cal 20 with trailer at Chris H's level. > > So far it seems to me the Cal 40 is the king for size and performance. > > The Cal 46 looks extremely comfortable and would make a great liveaboard. > > The Cal 36, do I have this right?, comes in a cruising version like a smaller Cal 46 and a racing/cruising version like a small 40? Or is it a Cal 35 that is a smaller Cal 40? > > I need someone with an excel spreadsheet top compare and contrast the baots. > > Regards > > Read > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > >________________________________ > From: Lord Nougat <lord_nougat@ yahoo.com > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:14:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > The only wetter boat I've sailed than a Cal 20 was a Capri 14. We cruise our little boat to Catalina all the time; weather allowing. I'm sure with a "real" cruising boat, that trip would be a snap and get tiresome - but then we have lots of other islands too; my boat partner has been wanting to try a nice voyage visiting Catalina, San Clemente, and then San Nicolas islands, dropping the hook at each and enjoying what some have called "the most beautiful place on earth". > > Get a Cal 20, they're way cooler than Harbor 20s! > Of course, if you end up with a Cal 40, that's like the ultimate, so you'll be set. > > > > >________________________________ > From: Read Howarth rshowarth@yahoo. com> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:25:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris H- > > Thank you for your posts > > I sail a Mariner here in New Jersey. > > I may be moving to the Los Angeles area. > > I have been interested in Harbor 20s as a replacement as they have Fleets in the area and do not race with Spinnakers. Also, solo racing is possible. > > I have joined this site because I feel my future may have a Cal 36 or 40 in it. > > Is it true that cruising areas in Southern California is very lmited as far as interest? > > I am told that other than Catalina Island there is little to recommend the local weekend cruising grounds. Sounds like I would want to live aboard a cruising boat in LA or keep one near the San Juan Islands.? > > For the short term: > > However, I can see a Cal 20 would likely provide me the fun of club racing I so much enjoy now with my Mariner, and at much less initial cost since the Harbor 20s are relatively new. > > Are the Cal 20s dry sailed? > > > Read S. Howarth > Moorestown, New Jersey > rshowarth@yahoo. com > > > > >________________________________ > From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@ bah.com > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:45:25 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Name (Chris H) > > > Chris, One of my CAL 25s is named Fahrvergnügen ("The Pleasure of Driving" from the old Volks ads). My mainsail cover logo is indeed Ü since the name is so long. > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Chris h > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:21 AM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 > > On Monday 09 February 2009 18:07:59 Chris h wrote: > > Last issue on this boat and then she's been put to bed till I retrieve her in the spring. Everything has been sorted. Manuals downloaded (amazingly detailed), supplier lists collected, trailer organized, joined cal-20 forums on cal20.com , etc etc. > > The last issue was coming up with a name. In an off line discussion with Chris C, we were both commenting on what little darlings these boats were, things of beauty. So I played with those ideas came up with nothing that was not too corny for me or the fellow who will propably end up with this boat. > > So looked at a German English dictionary as German is my mother tongue (haven't had a chance to use it in years) and came up with svGluckspilz with two dots over the "u" While its a tough pronunciation in English, it captures my sentiments on this boat to a tee. A Gluckspiltz is a lucky mushroom kinda like a shamrock in English, as a literal translation. In slang, it means a good luck charm and/or lucky bugger. I guess I got really lucky with this little gem. Denaming and naming ceremonies can be such fun..:) > > End of story till spring. > > -- > /ch > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > >