Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: model sail making

Old worn pillowcases make good sails. Cotton with a little polyester (dacron) in them. My hamster(may he rest in peace), if he were still here, would swear by them. BTW I bought an RC boat kit (Black Magic) and haven't gotten around to putting it together. If I were fifty years younger and didn't already have a large toy sailboat that I could get into and sail my self, I would probably kill to get my hands on this. Jerry --- On Thu, 2/19/09, mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> wrote: From: mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: model sail making To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:41 PM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, Rodney G Johnson <rjohnson24@ ...> wrote: > > Chris, model sails don't absolutely require that much fussiness. Most are > just flat cloth, you can get some shape by adding a slight "roach" to the > luff and foot. I have 2 radio-control sailboats, one "store-bought" and > one home-made, the sails are each just a single piece of Dacron cloth > with corners re-enforced. The boats sail just fine. If you use Nylon > cloth, it will stretch just enough to give the sail a good shape, no > seams required to build in shape. I bought the cloth for the home-made > boat's sails from SAILRITE KITS, and what they sold me was a scrap of > laminated cloth (quite reasonable price too!) that is basically a thin > layer of Dacron laminated to a thin layer of mylar. Might be kind of > "high-tech" for a classic STAR class, but it has worked well for my boat! > I actually built the wooden mast to have a luff groove and the boltrope > of the sail slides up that groove, pretty neat! My sons and I built R/C sailboats about 10 years ago and sailed them for a couple of years. They will get going on a reach and you won't believe how fast they are. The sails were light weight Dacron. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS They have a very active R/C sailing fleet in Irvine with custom designs and a lot of racing. The Midwinter Regatta here used to have (and may still have) a big R/C class with lots of racing. > > Rod Johnson, > "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > former co-owner, "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:41:03 -0500 Chris Campbell > <clcampbell@ ...> writes: > OK, sailors, tell me how to make a sail for a model sailboat. > > I have an old childhood toy, a little solid-wood hull that had been > dismasted over the years. The hull form was pretty close to a Star, so > I used the Star's rig dimensions scaled to the model's hull length and > made a wood mast and boom.. Now I need to make a sail. To get the > shape into the main, some draft into it, I assume that I need to take > some short skinny v-shaped snippets out of the luff, and some longer > skinnier v-shaped snippets out of the leech. Has anybody ever done this? > > Chris Campbell > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Criminal Lawyers - Click here. > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTOVoKEO WMSRBXqNKVUPy6UJ 3fNUq1HFin0qqZnp 2GS5K20pijgmJK/ >

Gerald Sobel wrote: > > > BTW I bought an RC boat kit (Black Magic) and haven't gotten around to > putting it together. If I were fifty years younger and didn't already > have a large toy sailboat that I could get into and sail my self, I > would probably kill to get my hands on this. > Jerry: Move to Michigan and you'll have lots of idle non-sailing time. Chris Campbell > > >

I remember seeing a kit or plans for one! Actually, funny you should mention this.....I remember back in High School when we had to come up with a high-tech toy design as an assignment in our Mechanical Drawing class. I had recently built a non-R/C model iceboat (it "sort-of worked", sort-of didn't!) and so decided to use that as the basis for my project. I think I did OK on the assignment, although I remember that we had to critique each other's designs and one classmate felt the R/C iceboat toy would have limited appeal since it could only be used in Winter. I guess he had never seen one of the gas-powered model ski mobiles sold by COX engines in the '70s.....? I think I countered with the idea that wheel could be substituted for the runners......but I don't really remember! High School wasn't too long ago for me.......but memories fade in 27 years! If I come across that ad for the R/C Iceboat Kit, I'll let you know! Rod Johnson On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:21:34 -0500 Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> writes: mtkennedy1 wrote: --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Rodney G Johnson <rjohnson24@...> wrote: > > Chris, model sails don't absolutely require that much fussiness. Most are > just flat cloth, you can get some shape by adding a slight "roach" to the > luff and foot. I have 2 radio-control sailboats, one "store-bought" and > one home-made, the sails are each just a single piece of Dacron cloth > with corners re-enforced. The boats sail just fine. If you use Nylon > cloth, it will stretch just enough to give the sail a good shape, no > seams required to build in shape. I bought the cloth for the home-made > boat's sails from SAILRITE KITS, and what they sold me was a scrap of > laminated cloth (quite reasonable price too!) that is basically a thin > layer of Dacron laminated to a thin layer of mylar. Might be kind of > "high-tech" for a classic STAR class, but it has worked well for my boat! > I actually built the wooden mast to have a luff groove and the boltrope > of the sail slides up that groove, pretty neat! My sons and I built R/C sailboats about 10 years ago and sailed them for a couple of years. They will get going on a reach and you won't believe how fast they are. The sails were light weight Dacron. I wonder if anybody has built a R/C iceboat model? Chris Campbell Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS They have a very active R/C sailing fleet in Irvine with custom designs and a lot of racing. The Midwinter Regatta here used to have (and may still have) a big R/C class with lots of racing. > > Rod Johnson, > "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > former co-owner, "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:41:03 -0500 Chris Campbell > <clcampbell@...> writes: > OK, sailors, tell me how to make a sail for a model sailboat. > > I have an old childhood toy, a little solid-wood hull that had been > dismasted over the years. The hull form was pretty close to a Star, so > I used the Star's rig dimensions scaled to the model's hull length and > made a wood mast and boom.. Now I need to make a sail. To get the > shape into the main, some draft into it, I assume that I need to take > some short skinny v-shaped snippets out of the luff, and some longer > skinnier v-shaped snippets out of the leech. Has anybody ever done this? > > Chris Campbell > > __________________________________________________________ > Criminal Lawyers - Click here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOVoKEOWMSRBXqNKVUPy6UJ 3fNUq1HFin0qqZnp2GS5K20pijgmJK/ > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1958 - Release Date: 2/18/2009 8:57 AM 100x faster than dial-up. $300 rebate. Sign up in 4 minutes! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTJMe3nanApyQxLQi9NVMDWU5ZDKrSsMyKTR001nwtZ5sQtfpTDtCt/