CAL-20 comes home, almost

CAL-20 comes home, almost

22 messages2009-03-28 15:52 UTCthrough 2009-04-01 16:30 UTC

CAL-20 comes home, almost

Chris h2009-03-28 15:52 UTC
Greets: Well she's almost mine. She is now sitting safely in Chris B's backyard in RI. As I ran into a scheduling problem with the tow vehicle and the trailer purchase which went south, Chris B stepped up and volunteered to bring her home to RI as an interim measure. MMA wanted the boat of the yard by the 14 April and that's a schedule I could not make. So just wanted to thank everyone who got me inspired enough to get one of these beauties and especially Chris B for making it happen. Actually thanks is not enough to express my gratitude. The project site (in progress as I just started it late last night) if your interested can be found here http://chrish.selfip.com/cal20project/ It may be a bit slow as its running off my linux workstation: P1, 250megs RAM and 160gig HD. No need to upgrade just yet..:) Chris B was kind enough to take a ton of pictures to complete a preliminary assessment of the vessel. Those will come on line as I process them as well as the entire rebuild of this boat, till we launch her this summer hopefully. Perhaps it will be a resource to others. later......gotta play with the lawn. First day the temp is over 10C and snow is finally off the ground. -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Read Howarth2009-03-28 16:23 UTC
Chris- Thank you for starting a site so we can all follow your restoration. There is no such thing as too many pictures and too detailed a description of your work. Read Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com From: Chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Greets: Well she's almost mine. She is now sitting safely in Chris B's backyard in RI. As I ran into a scheduling problem with the tow vehicle and the trailer purchase which went south, Chris B stepped up and volunteered to bring her home to RI as an interim measure. MMA wanted the boat of the yard by the 14 April and that's a schedule I could not make. So just wanted to thank everyone who got me inspired enough to get one of these beauties and especially Chris B for making it happen. Actually thanks is not enough to express my gratitude. The project site (in progress as I just started it late last night) if your interested can be found here http://chrish. selfip.com/ cal20project/ It may be a bit slow as its running off my linux workstation: P1, 250megs RAM and 160gig HD. No need to upgrade just yet..:) Chris B was kind enough to take a ton of pictures to complete a preliminary assessment of the vessel. Those will come on line as I process them as well as the entire rebuild of this boat, till we launch her this summer hopefully. Perhaps it will be a resource to others. later......gotta play with the lawn. First day the temp is over 10C and snow is finally off the ground. -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Chris h2009-03-28 16:37 UTC
On Saturday 28 March 2009 12:23:43 Read Howarth wrote: > Chris- > > Thank you for starting a site so we can all follow your restoration. > > There is no such thing as too many pictures and too detailed a description > of your work. Oh your welcome. I used to work in the IT open source world for quite a while. Its the only way I can contribute back to this group given all the support/information etc I've received. Pics are all thanks to Chris B as he's doing all the leg work at the present. I'll have the rest up on line by the end of the weekend. -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Lord Nougat2009-03-30 04:43 UTC
Good luck with your harddrive! From: Chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:52:00 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Greets: Well she's almost mine. She is now sitting safely in Chris B's backyard in RI. As I ran into a scheduling problem with the tow vehicle and the trailer purchase which went south, Chris B stepped up and volunteered to bring her home to RI as an interim measure. MMA wanted the boat of the yard by the 14 April and that's a schedule I could not make. So just wanted to thank everyone who got me inspired enough to get one of these beauties and especially Chris B for making it happen. Actually thanks is not enough to express my gratitude. The project site (in progress as I just started it late last night) if your interested can be found here http://chrish. selfip.com/ cal20project/ It may be a bit slow as its running off my linux workstation: P1, 250megs RAM and 160gig HD. No need to upgrade just yet..:) Chris B was kind enough to take a ton of pictures to complete a preliminary assessment of the vessel. Those will come on line as I process them as well as the entire rebuild of this boat, till we launch her this summer hopefully. Perhaps it will be a resource to others. later......gotta play with the lawn. First day the temp is over 10C and snow is finally off the ground. -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

chris h2009-03-30 05:02 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 00:43:27 Lord Nougat wrote: > Good luck with your harddrive! That's what you get for show'n off on the puter specs. Dam drive gave up the ghost the very next day. Will take some dedicated work to recover this drive. Oh well, its raining the next few days..:) /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

chris h2009-03-30 13:25 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch

CAL-20 Main Sheet

Husar, Charlie [USA]2009-03-30 13:41 UTC
Looks familiar in some ways, Chris. It is attached to the boom with clamshell rig rather than to the tang at the back of the boom. I don't see a traveler track aft. It could be that the shackle at the bottom attaches to a rope cheater traveller that goes across the back of the boat. Such a cheater could have replaced the wishbone main sheet that was the original on these boats. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chris h Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Read Howarth2009-03-30 13:47 UTC
Chris- I wonder if that snap shackle attached to a simple bridle set up? As I have looked at Cal 20s I have thought I would want to go to a barney post set up. Will look forward to see what you do. Read From: chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet

Read Howarth2009-03-30 13:48 UTC
Charlie- Is a "cheater" the same thing as a bridle? Read From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:41:22 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Looks familiar in some ways, Chris. It is attached to the boom with clamshell rig rather than to the tang at the back of the boom. I don't see a traveler track aft. It could be that the shackle at the bottom attaches to a rope cheater traveller that goes across the back of the boat. Such a cheater could have replaced the wishbone main sheet that was the original on these boats. Cheers Charlie From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of chris h Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:26 AM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch ------------ --------- --------- ------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

ng… [at] comcast.net2009-03-30 13:50 UTC
Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup you can place it anywhere along the boom. Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2 From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Matthew Wallace2009-03-30 13:59 UTC
My new 20' has the same stainless / seatbelt strap for the vang. Does the snap hook attach on the stern quarter padeyes or do you have a central attachment point? I have not see that particular arrangement before. It looks like you would have to disconnect the main sheet to tack, sounds like a fun maneuver in bad weather. Bad news about the dead drive, let me know when you get the files back up. I am going to refit my super leaky cruising Cal20, and I would like to see how yours develops. Matthew Wallace Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Read Howarth2009-03-30 14:27 UTC
Chris- Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of the boom. Read Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: ng… [at] comcast.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:50:31 To: Cal Boats<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup you can place it anywhere along the boom. Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2 From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch

CAL-20 Main Sheet Again

Husar, Charlie [USA]2009-03-30 14:38 UTC
Could well be, Read. Then the question is: "Where is the main sheet?" I think "bridle" and "cheater" could be the same thing. I've also heard people refer to the inverted wishbone sheeting arrangement as a bridle. I've always called it a "thingy". Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Read Howarth Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Chris- Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of the boom. Read Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: ng… [at] comcast.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) To: Cal Boats<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup you can place it anywhere along the boom. Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2 From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again

Read Howarth2009-03-30 14:41 UTC
Hopefully the mainsheet and blocks are in the cabin................. Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:38:13 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again Could well be, Read. Then the question is: "Where is the main sheet?" I think "bridle" and "cheater" could be the same thing. I've also heard people refer to the inverted wishbone sheeting arrangement as a bridle. I've always called it a "thingy". Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Read Howarth Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Chris- Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of the boom. Read Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: ng… [at] comcast.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) To: Cal Boats<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup you can place it anywhere along the boom. Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2 From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote: One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen one of these before? Pic attached -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

chris h2009-03-30 14:49 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 09:59:22 Matthew Wallace wrote: > Bad news about the dead drive, let me know when you get the files back up. > I am going to refit my super leaky cruising Cal20, and I would like to see > how yours develops. The CAL20 files are all recoverable as the site was build on wordpress and the pics are stored on picassa. So that's not the big issue. Rather its tax time and I have my business data on that drive and um.....silly me...no recent backup. Its doeable but will require a lot of trickery and support from folks I know who do this for a living. Good thing is its a journaled ext3 file system and not h/ntfs. I would be dead in the water if it was. > Matthew Wallace > Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit > Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02 So you have two CAL20 one setup for cruising and one for coastal sailing? Whats the distinction? Would be very interested in what the setup is for Tuna Marine if the above assumption is correct. I would like to take this boat into Lake Ontario and beyond once its done and waters can be very rough. However from looking at the survey pics. I'm probably going to do this in stages. Just do enough to get her into the water this year, then complete the interior work over the winter or in the spring. Not really sure till she comes home, but I really would like to splash her this summer if at all possible. Best regards and thanks -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again

ld… [at] comcast.net2009-03-30 14:50 UTC
Charlie: Your apt descriptor (thingy) leads me to believe that you have been secretly giving my wife sailing lessons. Les Hester Bay Breeze 3-29#1005 Swan Creek, Md From: "Charlie Husar [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again Could well be, Read. Then the question is: "Where is the main sheet?" I think "bridle" and "cheater" could be the same thing. I've also heard people refer to the inverted wishbone sheeting arrangement as a bridle. I've always called it a "thingy". Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Read Howarth Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost Chris- Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of the boom. Read Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Matthew Wallace2009-03-30 15:46 UTC
The "cruising" model has a few fun toys. And a slight rigging modification to run an inner staysail. Some really old pre sailing pictures: http://captinkid.com/gallery/ Lots of solar power and several big batteries (1 4D and 2 27's), a radio, a Loran, multiple GPS units, waterproof lcd in the cockpit for dvd's, anchor roller and a 22lb Bruce anchor (I don't like anchor dragging). Mainly setup for long term comfortable cruising. Or at least as comfortable as a boat this small can be. The staysail mount needs to be rebedded and the stanchions are really leaky, I think I am just going to remove them permanently. Also the lower rudder pintle is leaking quite a bit. I like the Vectran rigging and spectra deadeyes, but they tend to chafe. I also have to rebuild the sliding hatch and dropboards. Probably a good week of work to fix it up, but I need to get it home to work on it. Right now it is in my brothers backyard on the trailer. I will post new pictures once I get around to working on her. Once I get it fixed I will swap it out with my other boat, or trailer it up to the Puget sound for a month or two. The "coastal" model is mostly original and unmodified. Just something to sail around while I work on the other one. The boat does not mind rough water, as I would break before it did. Matthew Wallace Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Lord Nougat2009-03-30 17:52 UTC
With any luck you should be able to 'dd' the data off that drive to a new one and be back up again in no time. From: chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:49:51 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost On Monday 30 March 2009 09:59:22 Matthew Wallace wrote: > Bad news about the dead drive, let me know when you get the files back up. > I am going to refit my super leaky cruising Cal20, and I would like to see > how yours develops. The CAL20 files are all recoverable as the site was build on wordpress and the pics are stored on picassa. So that's not the big issue. Rather its tax time and I have my business data on that drive and um.....silly me...no recent backup. Its doeable but will require a lot of trickery and support from folks I know who do this for a living. Good thing is its a journaled ext3 file system and not h/ntfs. I would be dead in the water if it was. > Matthew Wallace > Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit > Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02 So you have two CAL20 one setup for cruising and one for coastal sailing? Whats the distinction? Would be very interested in what the setup is for Tuna Marine if the above assumption is correct. I would like to take this boat into Lake Ontario and beyond once its done and waters can be very rough. However from looking at the survey pics. I'm probably going to do this in stages. Just do enough to get her into the water this year, then complete the interior work over the winter or in the spring. Not really sure till she comes home, but I really would like to splash her this summer if at all possible. Best regards and thanks -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

chris h2009-03-30 17:59 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 13:52:58 Lord Nougat wrote: > With any luck you should be able to 'dd' the data off that drive to a new > one and be back up again in no time. Been at that all AM. It goes as far as reading the first few sectors of the partition and then fails. Mounting duplicate partition then gives same general errors as the original. Uhgggg>>:) If I can figure out how to start the read further into the partition I should be OK but that's a learning curve. me thinks its going to be a long night..:) -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

chris h2009-03-30 18:08 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 11:46:58 Matthew Wallace wrote: > The "cruising" model has a few fun toys. And a slight rigging modification > to run an inner staysail. Would be interested in learning more about your stay sail configuration. > Some really old pre sailing pictures: > http://captinkid.com/gallery/ Did you ever build this one: http://captinkid.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=531 or is this concept. > Lots of solar power and several big batteries (1 4D and 2 27's), a radio, a > Loran, multiple GPS units, waterproof lcd in the cockpit for dvd's, anchor > roller and a 22lb Bruce anchor (I don't like anchor dragging). Mainly setup > for long term comfortable cruising. Or at least as comfortable as a boat > this small can be. A man after my own heart. Ya need some juice on these little darlings. One of the reasons I got one of these wee ones was to test out a number of nav and electrical configurations prior to implementing them on a larger vessel. Everything is accessible to its a nice test platform. Best of luck -- /ch

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

Matthew Wallace2009-03-30 20:57 UTC
You might try Spinrite from GRC as a last resort. It costs money ($89) but I have had it save a few hard drives that I thought were permanently toasted. Only worthwhile if you have data that is actually worth something and dd_rescue does not work. http://www.grc.com I think someone else posted this but try the free dd_rescue first: http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/ I think most modern Linux distributions have it in their repositories: http://www.debianadmin.com/recover-data-from-a-dead-hard-drive-using-ddrescue.html ===== As far as the staysail configuration, it is on the racing page of my gallery. Look for the forward sloping mast, the only thing I have done differently is remove the aft facing strut. http://captinkid.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=541 I installed a mast step in the cockpit, I also have another one on deck. A convertible prototype rig. I only have about 400AH in my cruising Cal. The trolling moter eats about 30A at full power, so I really only have about 10hrs of powered cruising. And then it takes almost a week of solar charging to fill it back up again. The funny thing is that I don't even have a battery in my coastal cal at this time, I would like to get the running lights working so I can go night sailing (my favorite time to sail). You already have twofootitis, planning for a larger boat? Usually it does not strike until you spend a fortune of time and money on your current boat. I sold my first Cal20 after "investing" almost $5000 in electronics, rigging and parts over a year. I purchased a Cal25 after I sold my first Cal20 and realized that it was too big for my kind of sailing, so I sold my 25 and went out and bought anonther pair of Cal20's. (not at the same time of course) Whale watching in a Cal20 is a moment not to be forgotten, especially at night! Matthew Wallace Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost

chris h2009-04-01 16:30 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 16:57:53 Matthew Wallace wrote: dd_client to the rescue. Third attempt was good. Writing the partition from back to front byte by byte onto a similar sized formated partition did the trick as all the errors were at the head. So 22 hrs later, the drive is recovered and backup in progress. Many, many thanks. -- /ch