22 messages2009-03-28 15:52 UTCthrough 2009-04-01 16:30 UTC
CAL-20 comes home, almost
Chris h2009-03-28 15:52 UTC
Greets:
Well she's almost mine. She is now sitting safely in Chris B's backyard in RI.
As I ran into a scheduling problem with the tow vehicle and the trailer
purchase which went south, Chris B stepped up and volunteered to bring her
home to RI as an interim measure. MMA wanted the boat of the yard by the 14
April and that's a schedule I could not make.
So just wanted to thank everyone who got me inspired enough to get one of
these beauties and especially Chris B for making it happen. Actually thanks
is not enough to express my gratitude.
The project site (in progress as I just started it late last night) if your
interested can be found here
http://chrish.selfip.com/cal20project/
It may be a bit slow as its running off my linux workstation: P1, 250megs RAM
and 160gig HD. No need to upgrade just yet..:)
Chris B was kind enough to take a ton of pictures to complete a preliminary
assessment of the vessel. Those will come on line as I process them as well
as the entire rebuild of this boat, till we launch her this summer hopefully.
Perhaps it will be a resource to others.
later......gotta play with the lawn. First day the temp is over 10C and snow
is finally off the ground.
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Read Howarth2009-03-28 16:23 UTC
Chris-
Thank you for starting a site so we can all follow your restoration.
There is no such thing as too many pictures and too detailed a description of your work.
Read
Read S. Howarth
Moorestown, New Jersey
rs… [at] yahoo.com
From: Chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Greets:
Well she's almost mine. She is now sitting safely in Chris B's backyard in RI.
As I ran into a scheduling problem with the tow vehicle and the trailer
purchase which went south, Chris B stepped up and volunteered to bring her
home to RI as an interim measure. MMA wanted the boat of the yard by the 14
April and that's a schedule I could not make.
So just wanted to thank everyone who got me inspired enough to get one of
these beauties and especially Chris B for making it happen. Actually thanks
is not enough to express my gratitude.
The project site (in progress as I just started it late last night) if your
interested can be found here
http://chrish. selfip.com/ cal20project/
It may be a bit slow as its running off my linux workstation: P1, 250megs RAM
and 160gig HD. No need to upgrade just yet..:)
Chris B was kind enough to take a ton of pictures to complete a preliminary
assessment of the vessel. Those will come on line as I process them as well
as the entire rebuild of this boat, till we launch her this summer hopefully.
Perhaps it will be a resource to others.
later......gotta play with the lawn. First day the temp is over 10C and snow
is finally off the ground.
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Chris h2009-03-28 16:37 UTC
On Saturday 28 March 2009 12:23:43 Read Howarth wrote:
> Chris-
>
> Thank you for starting a site so we can all follow your restoration.
>
> There is no such thing as too many pictures and too detailed a description
> of your work.
Oh your welcome. I used to work in the IT open source world for quite a while.
Its the only way I can contribute back to this group given all the
support/information etc I've received. Pics are all thanks to Chris B as he's
doing all the leg work at the present. I'll have the rest up on line by the
end of the weekend.
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Lord Nougat2009-03-30 04:43 UTC
Good luck with your harddrive!
From: Chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:52:00 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Greets:
Well she's almost mine. She is now sitting safely in Chris B's backyard in RI.
As I ran into a scheduling problem with the tow vehicle and the trailer
purchase which went south, Chris B stepped up and volunteered to bring her
home to RI as an interim measure. MMA wanted the boat of the yard by the 14
April and that's a schedule I could not make.
So just wanted to thank everyone who got me inspired enough to get one of
these beauties and especially Chris B for making it happen. Actually thanks
is not enough to express my gratitude.
The project site (in progress as I just started it late last night) if your
interested can be found here
http://chrish. selfip.com/ cal20project/
It may be a bit slow as its running off my linux workstation: P1, 250megs RAM
and 160gig HD. No need to upgrade just yet..:)
Chris B was kind enough to take a ton of pictures to complete a preliminary
assessment of the vessel. Those will come on line as I process them as well
as the entire rebuild of this boat, till we launch her this summer hopefully.
Perhaps it will be a resource to others.
later......gotta play with the lawn. First day the temp is over 10C and snow
is finally off the ground.
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
chris h2009-03-30 05:02 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 00:43:27 Lord Nougat wrote:
> Good luck with your harddrive!
That's what you get for show'n off on the puter specs. Dam drive gave up the
ghost the very next day. Will take some dedicated work to recover this drive.
Oh well, its raining the next few days..:)
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
chris h2009-03-30 13:25 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different
mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen
one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
CAL-20 Main Sheet
Husar, Charlie [USA]2009-03-30 13:41 UTC
Looks familiar in some ways, Chris. It is attached to the boom with
clamshell rig rather than to the tang at the back of the boom. I don't
see a traveler track aft. It could be that the shackle at the bottom
attaches to a rope cheater traveller that goes across the back of the
boat. Such a cheater could have replaced the wishbone main sheet that
was the original on these boats.
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of chris h
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:26 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather
different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any
information or seen one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
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Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Read Howarth2009-03-30 13:47 UTC
Chris-
I wonder if that snap shackle attached to a simple bridle set up?
As I have looked at Cal 20s I have thought I would want to go to a barney post set up.
Will look forward to see what you do.
Read
From: chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different
mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen
one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet
Read Howarth2009-03-30 13:48 UTC
Charlie-
Is a "cheater" the same thing as a bridle?
Read
From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:41:22 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet
Looks familiar in some ways, Chris. It is attached to the boom with
clamshell rig rather than to the tang at the back of the boom. I don't
see a traveler track aft. It could be that the shackle at the bottom
attaches to a rope cheater traveller that goes across the back of the
boat. Such a cheater could have replaced the wishbone main sheet that
was the original on these boats.
Cheers
Charlie
From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On
Behalf Of chris h
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:26 AM
To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather
different mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any
information or seen one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
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Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
ng… [at] comcast.net2009-03-30 13:50 UTC
Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup you can place it anywhere along the boom.
Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2
From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different
mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen
one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Matthew Wallace2009-03-30 13:59 UTC
My new 20' has the same stainless / seatbelt strap for the vang. Does the
snap hook attach on the stern quarter padeyes or do you have a central
attachment point?
I have not see that particular arrangement before. It looks like you would
have to disconnect the main sheet to tack, sounds like a fun maneuver in bad
weather.
Bad news about the dead drive, let me know when you get the files back up. I
am going to refit my super leaky cruising Cal20, and I would like to see how
yours develops.
Matthew Wallace
Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit
Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Read Howarth2009-03-30 14:27 UTC
Chris-
Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of the boom.
Read
Read S. Howarth
Moorestown, New Jersey
rs… [at] yahoo.com
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From: ng… [at] comcast.net
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:50:31
To: Cal Boats<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup you can place it anywhere along the boom.
Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2
From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather different
mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or seen
one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
CAL-20 Main Sheet Again
Husar, Charlie [USA]2009-03-30 14:38 UTC
Could well be, Read. Then the question is: "Where is the main sheet?"
I think "bridle" and "cheater" could be the same thing. I've also heard
people refer to the inverted wishbone sheeting arrangement as a bridle.
I've always called it a "thingy".
Cheers
Charlie
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Behalf Of Read Howarth
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:28 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Chris-
Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of
the boom.
Read
Read S. Howarth
Moorestown, New Jersey
rs… [at] yahoo.com
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: ng… [at] comcast.net
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC)
To: Cal Boats<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup
you can place it anywhere along the boom.
Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2
From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather
different
mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or
seen
one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again
Read Howarth2009-03-30 14:41 UTC
Hopefully the mainsheet and blocks are in the cabin.................
Read S. Howarth
Moorestown, New Jersey
rs… [at] yahoo.com
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From: "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:38:13
To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again
Could well be, Read. Then the question is: "Where is the main sheet?"
I think "bridle" and "cheater" could be the same thing. I've also heard
people refer to the inverted wishbone sheeting arrangement as a bridle.
I've always called it a "thingy".
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Read Howarth
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:28 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Chris-
Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of
the boom.
Read
Read S. Howarth
Moorestown, New Jersey
rs… [at] yahoo.com
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: ng… [at] comcast.net
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC)
To: Cal Boats<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Looks like a standard boom vang arrangement. With the camshell hookup
you can place it anywhere along the boom.
Nick "Jade" Cal 9.2
From: "chris h" <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 01:02:48 chris h wrote:
One of the unique items found on this vessel by Chris B was a rather
different
mainsheet control system. Was wondering if anyone has any information or
seen
one of these before? Pic attached
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
chris h2009-03-30 14:49 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 09:59:22 Matthew Wallace wrote:
> Bad news about the dead drive, let me know when you get the files back up.
> I am going to refit my super leaky cruising Cal20, and I would like to see
> how yours develops.
The CAL20 files are all recoverable as the site was build on wordpress and the
pics are stored on picassa. So that's not the big issue. Rather its tax time
and I have my business data on that drive and um.....silly me...no recent
backup. Its doeable but will require a lot of trickery and support from folks
I know who do this for a living. Good thing is its a journaled ext3 file
system and not h/ntfs. I would be dead in the water if it was.
> Matthew Wallace
> Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit
> Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02
So you have two CAL20 one setup for cruising and one for coastal sailing?
Whats the distinction? Would be very interested in what the setup is for Tuna
Marine if the above assumption is correct. I would like to take this boat
into Lake Ontario and beyond once its done and waters can be very rough.
However from looking at the survey pics. I'm probably going to do this in
stages. Just do enough to get her into the water this year, then complete the
interior work over the winter or in the spring. Not really sure till she
comes home, but I really would like to splash her this summer if at all
possible.
Best regards and thanks
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again
ld… [at] comcast.net2009-03-30 14:50 UTC
Charlie: Your apt descriptor (thingy) leads me to believe that you have been secretly giving my wife sailing lessons.
Les Hester
Bay Breeze
3-29#1005
Swan Creek, Md
From: "Charlie Husar [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com>
To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 Main Sheet Again
Could well be, Read. Then the question is: "Where is the main sheet?"
I think "bridle" and "cheater" could be the same thing. I've also heard people refer to the inverted wishbone sheeting arrangement as a bridle. I've always called it a "thingy".
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Read Howarth
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:28 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Chris-
Perhaps it is just a boom vang and it has migrated to the aft portion of the boom.
Read
Read S. Howarth
Moorestown, New Jersey
rs… [at] yahoo.com
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Matthew Wallace2009-03-30 15:46 UTC
The "cruising" model has a few fun toys. And a slight rigging modification
to run an inner staysail.
Some really old pre sailing pictures:
http://captinkid.com/gallery/
Lots of solar power and several big batteries (1 4D and 2 27's), a radio, a
Loran, multiple GPS units, waterproof lcd in the cockpit for dvd's, anchor
roller and a 22lb Bruce anchor (I don't like anchor dragging). Mainly setup
for long term comfortable cruising. Or at least as comfortable as a boat
this small can be.
The staysail mount needs to be rebedded and the stanchions are really leaky,
I think I am just going to remove them permanently. Also the lower rudder
pintle is leaking quite a bit. I like the Vectran rigging and spectra
deadeyes, but they tend to chafe. I also have to rebuild the sliding hatch
and dropboards.
Probably a good week of work to fix it up, but I need to get it home to work
on it. Right now it is in my brothers backyard on the trailer. I will post
new pictures once I get around to working on her.
Once I get it fixed I will swap it out with my other boat, or trailer it up
to the Puget sound for a month or two.
The "coastal" model is mostly original and unmodified. Just something to
sail around while I work on the other one. The boat does not mind rough
water, as I would break before it did.
Matthew Wallace
Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit
Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Lord Nougat2009-03-30 17:52 UTC
With any luck you should be able to 'dd' the data off that drive to a new one and be back up again in no time.
From: chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:49:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
On Monday 30 March 2009 09:59:22 Matthew Wallace wrote:
> Bad news about the dead drive, let me know when you get the files back up.
> I am going to refit my super leaky cruising Cal20, and I would like to see
> how yours develops.
The CAL20 files are all recoverable as the site was build on wordpress and the
pics are stored on picassa. So that's not the big issue. Rather its tax time
and I have my business data on that drive and um.....silly me...no recent
backup. Its doeable but will require a lot of trickery and support from folks
I know who do this for a living. Good thing is its a journaled ext3 file
system and not h/ntfs. I would be dead in the water if it was.
> Matthew Wallace
> Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit
> Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02
So you have two CAL20 one setup for cruising and one for coastal sailing?
Whats the distinction? Would be very interested in what the setup is for Tuna
Marine if the above assumption is correct. I would like to take this boat
into Lake Ontario and beyond once its done and waters can be very rough.
However from looking at the survey pics. I'm probably going to do this in
stages. Just do enough to get her into the water this year, then complete the
interior work over the winter or in the spring. Not really sure till she
comes home, but I really would like to splash her this summer if at all
possible.
Best regards and thanks
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
chris h2009-03-30 17:59 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 13:52:58 Lord Nougat wrote:
> With any luck you should be able to 'dd' the data off that drive to a new
> one and be back up again in no time.
Been at that all AM. It goes as far as reading the first few sectors of the
partition and then fails. Mounting duplicate partition then gives same
general errors as the original. Uhgggg>>:)
If I can figure out how to start the read further into the partition I should
be OK but that's a learning curve.
me thinks its going to be a long night..:)
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
chris h2009-03-30 18:08 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 11:46:58 Matthew Wallace wrote:
> The "cruising" model has a few fun toys. And a slight rigging modification
> to run an inner staysail.
Would be interested in learning more about your stay sail configuration.
> Some really old pre sailing pictures:
> http://captinkid.com/gallery/
Did you ever build this one:
http://captinkid.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=531 or is this concept.
> Lots of solar power and several big batteries (1 4D and 2 27's), a radio, a
> Loran, multiple GPS units, waterproof lcd in the cockpit for dvd's, anchor
> roller and a 22lb Bruce anchor (I don't like anchor dragging). Mainly setup
> for long term comfortable cruising. Or at least as comfortable as a boat
> this small can be.
A man after my own heart. Ya need some juice on these little darlings. One of
the reasons I got one of these wee ones was to test out a number of nav and
electrical configurations prior to implementing them on a larger vessel.
Everything is accessible to its a nice test platform.
Best of luck
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
Matthew Wallace2009-03-30 20:57 UTC
You might try Spinrite from GRC as a last resort. It costs money ($89) but I
have had it save a few hard drives that I thought were permanently toasted.
Only worthwhile if you have data that is actually worth something and
dd_rescue does not work.
http://www.grc.com
I think someone else posted this but try the free dd_rescue first:
http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/
I think most modern Linux distributions have it in their repositories:
http://www.debianadmin.com/recover-data-from-a-dead-hard-drive-using-ddrescue.html
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As far as the staysail configuration, it is on the racing page of my
gallery. Look for the forward sloping mast, the only thing I have done
differently is remove the aft facing strut.
http://captinkid.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=541
I installed a mast step in the cockpit, I also have another one on deck. A
convertible prototype rig.
I only have about 400AH in my cruising Cal. The trolling moter eats about
30A at full power, so I really only have about 10hrs of powered cruising.
And then it takes almost a week of solar charging to fill it back up again.
The funny thing is that I don't even have a battery in my coastal cal at
this time, I would like to get the running lights working so I can go night
sailing (my favorite time to sail).
You already have twofootitis, planning for a larger boat? Usually it does
not strike until you spend a fortune of time and money on your current boat.
I sold my first Cal20 after "investing" almost $5000 in electronics, rigging
and parts over a year.
I purchased a Cal25 after I sold my first Cal20 and realized that it was too
big for my kind of sailing, so I sold my 25 and went out and bought anonther
pair of Cal20's. (not at the same time of course)
Whale watching in a Cal20 is a moment not to be forgotten, especially at
night!
Matthew Wallace
Cruising Cal20 "Cisco" On the hard - awaiting refit
Coastal Cal20 "Tuna Marine" Dana Point, CA - Slip #AS02
Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-20 comes home, almost
chris h2009-04-01 16:30 UTC
On Monday 30 March 2009 16:57:53 Matthew Wallace wrote:
dd_client to the rescue. Third attempt was good. Writing the partition from
back to front byte by byte onto a similar sized formated partition did the
trick as all the errors were at the head. So 22 hrs later, the drive is
recovered and backup in progress.
Many, many thanks.
--
/ch