Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Environmental

yes charlie west marine would have them in the catalog but unfortunately thee store is out of you size but they will be happy to "store to door" for you. gene --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Dan <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Dan <sa… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Environmental To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:23 AM Charlie: You've just created a new cottage industry. Fish Diapers! I swear soemone would buy 'em. I love it! Small, medium and Killer Whale size. Now I wonder if West Marine would inventory them? Dan --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@ ...> wrote: > > Think I'll get a job putting diapers on fish. The unfortunate part of > the modern eco-friendly formulations is that most of them don't work for > a damn. Used to work in a small electronics shop doing R&D design and > small home grown production back when we used REAL chemicals. Has > anyone here tried the modern soldering fluxes and board cleaners > "approved" for consumer use. Might as well not bother. > > Cheers Anyway > Charlie > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On > Behalf Of timmothy.lessley@ ... > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:37 PM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] > > > Well then, I guess the boat will be dirty? > > That still leaves the 11 beers to be consumed. > > A pressure washer is only water delivered at a high force and low volume > - I would think that this method would be mandatory if water usage was a > concern.. > > Most at home units are not nearly powerful enough to lift bonded > caulking.. if it is loose and leaking - needing replacement then maybe. > > I wonder how people wash dishes on board, all sinks I am familiar with > drain into the water... > > Maybe "Phosphate free" TSP is okay, since it is not a soap (foaming) > and is a cleaner of gunk. (MSDS attached) > > Phosphate-Free > > > > > > TSP-PF > > > > > > A heavy duty cleaner with the equivalent cleaning power of TSP for use > where phosphate cleaners are prohibited. The phosphate-free formula also > removes heavy deposits of greasy grime, smoke, soot stains and chalked > paint from walls, woodwork and floors. Cleans and restores weathered and > mildewed decks and siding. Removes mildew and mildew stains when mixed > with bleach. Also cleans remover sludge and prepares surfaces for > repainting. > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On > Behalf Of Dan > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:05 PM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cleaning Gelcoat > > > > dEmO: > If we followed these cleaning instructions here in the Puget Sound, the > enviro-mental wackos would have us arrested for assault of Sacred Mother > Earth! My first mate and I are very concerned about the environment and > really are very careful boatowners but these folks are clearly trying to > get ALL boats out of the water. It's reached a state of being > unreasonable. > Our marina does not allow soap of ANY kind, including the Green Soap > which we usually use. Pressure washing is also discouraged for its > damage to something or other.(I'm concerned about opening up stantion > and chain-plate seals with pressure washing anyway.) > We are told to use plain water and elbow grease. Or wash at night when > the enviro-mental wackos are in earth church. Oxalic acid! They'd keel > haul us except for all the blood! > Dan > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> , > <timmothy.lessley@ > wrote: > > > > Not an expert at this one. > > > > Typically I try things until something works best. > > > > I also may not be environmentally friendly? > > > > General Deck Cleaning steps: > > > > 1. pressure washer pre-wet and get big bird poop spots off > > 2. spray laundry bleach mostly on the stained areas or fiberglass.. > avoid soaking bare wood, stainless. > > 3. moisten deck again to flow bleach. > > 4. per the Cal factory manual, sprinkle laundry (Tide) soap on the wet > decks > > 5. Pressure wash at high power to get most of the stains lifted. > > > > Go below and look for leaks > > > > 6. Go back over with a scrubber brush and Oxalic acid (Bar Keepers > Friend) to get the black or rust spots > > 7. Hit hard rust spots with Phosphoric acid (Naval Jelly) do not let > the pink jelly dry as it can stain a pink color. Repeat Step 6. > > 8. using MEK or Acetone, hit greasy spots or real hard black sole > marks. Repeat Step 6. > > 9. have a pick and or tooth brush to get into groove or joints, pick > off caulking or varnish. > > 10. Dry and clean metal parts and cables - w/WD 40 and a microfiber > rag > > 11. Compound & wax smooth surfaces. (Meguires or 3M) > > > > Get into the hot tub, and enjoy the view! > > > > dEmO > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> ] > On Behalf Of John > > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:16 PM > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cleaning Gelcoat > > > > > > Hi all, > > Well, after much effort (and, of course, money) I have managed to get > my Cal 31 back to working order! (rebuilt transmission, shaft, cutless > bearing and motor mounts) However, this ordeal left her seriously soiled > with lots of grease and oil stains in the cockpit. She's also got a > number of places that are just oxidized, ugly areas that need a serious > cleaning. What are your prefered methods/products for handling these > problems? Your assistance will be greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > John Stacklyn > > Cal 31 #33 "Sol Survivor" > > Shell Point, FL > > >