Re: RIP ZIP

Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> Alfred

Here's why those abrasive discs have been discontinued - The dust created when grinding is inhaled into the Zip's motor, and trashes the bearings and windings. Now the Zip will last longer without that dust. Joe DeMers Sound Marine Diesel LLC www.soundmarinediesel.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Alfred Poor To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> Alfred ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.40 - Release Date: 4/3/2009 12:00 AM

On Wednesday 08 April 2009 09:43:53 Alfred Poor wrote: > Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I > went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do > such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web > site confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got > myself into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> > > > > Alfred Roto Zip was bought out by Bosch. Home Depot still stocks them up here may be special order in your area. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/tls/1110470399.html Models available: http://www.rotozip.com/SiteLanding_Page.htm Fein 's are great tools. Classics of the future, but, a good rotozip for 50 bucks will do the same but limited with respect to options available with the Fein. For that I would use other dedicated tools, and the price point still is lower. To each his own. Ya cant beet a good tool and never ever criticize someones tool kit. That's worse then talking politics. Best of luck -- /ch

Alfred, Rockwell similar tool (to Fein) that is cheaper. I have one of each. Seem similar. Fein might last longer (dunno). Truth be told, I was never really a Roto-Zip fan. I'm into bigger heavy duty tools that gouge big holes and maximize destruction. Roto-Zip makes for a mediocre Sawz-All. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Poor Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:44 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> Alfred

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I > went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do > such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site > confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself > into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> > > > > Alfred > Here is a link which might be of interest: http://www.toolsnob.com/archives/2008/11/oscilating_tool_roundup.php Let us know what you buy and how you like it. Read

Ok, you all are in trouble! All of this talk of men and their tools and love of this tool and that tool and your continuous outpouring of links to tool websites has pushed me over the edge. I just purchased the Fein 250Q Top and my palms are already sweating even though it will take two days to arrive!! I am traveling to Delaware to work on getting my father's home ready for sale after he has been moved into an assisted living center, and reading the reviews I couldn't think of a single tool that I could take that would help me with all of the tasks I face -- plumbing repair, sanding sheetrock, removing tile sections, etc, etc. Then, I get to come home and sand the teak rails on my boat and get them ready for varnish! Having done this before with orbital palm sanders, I can't wait to try the Fein in close quarters work on the teak. I'm beginning to hope that the bottom needs painting this fall!! Way to go, guys. Boy is my crew gonna be pissed when she finds out what I just bought. 'Scuse me while I step out to a florist real quick and do some necesary damage control. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" PS I have learned more on this site about more things -- keep up the good work! "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Read <rs… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 3:56:21 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I > went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do > such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site > confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself > into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> > > > > Alfred > Here is a link which might be of interest: http://www.toolsnob .com/archives/ 2008/11/oscilati ng_tool_roundup. php Let us know what you buy and how you like it. Read

On Wednesday 08 April 2009 19:31:22 Donald Dutton wrote: If your really want to drool, then enjoy this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CW68Qohtus Should you get the itch to pull out the credit card, please consider this site first for family and crew harmony: http://www.ftd.com/ Best 20 bucks you'll ever spend. Just make sure they arrive before the Visa statement does. so the auditor is happy. One of the few blessing of being single. No need to send flowers to myself..;) -- /ch

I am SHOCKED! The level of "Tool Smut" on this list has elevated itself way beyond the pale. I will never again think of the list as "Family Friendly" again. Wyatt s/v Blythe Spirit CAL 2-46 St.Pete From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Dutton Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:31 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP (Read, Chris, ch, etc) Ok, you all are in trouble! All of this talk of men and their tools and love of this tool and that tool and your continuous outpouring of links to tool websites has pushed me over the edge. I just purchased the Fein 250Q Top and my palms are already sweating even though it will take two days to arrive!! I am traveling to Delaware to work on getting my father's home ready for sale after he has been moved into an assisted living center, and reading the reviews I couldn't think of a single tool that I could take that would help me with all of the tasks I face -- plumbing repair, sanding sheetrock, removing tile sections, etc, etc. Then, I get to come home and sand the teak rails on my boat and get them ready for varnish! Having done this before with orbital palm sanders, I can't wait to try the Fein in close quarters work on the teak. I'm beginning to hope that the bottom needs painting this fall!! Way to go, guys. Boy is my crew gonna be pissed when she finds out what I just bought. 'Scuse me while I step out to a florist real quick and do some necesary damage control. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" PS I have learned more on this site about more things -- keep up the good work! "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Read <rs… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 3:56:21 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I > went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do > such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site > confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself > into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> > > > > Alfred > Here is a link which might be of interest: http://www.toolsnob .com/archives/ 2008/11/oscilati ng_tool_roundup. php <http://www.toolsnob.com/archives/2008/11/oscilating_tool_roundup.php> Let us know what you buy and how you like it. Read

Don, I think you will find the Fein fine for precision work and tight areas. It is great for cutting straight lines at edges, sanding into corners, and the like. I believe that the Fein idea was created for things like cutting casts off people's body parts without messing up the person a whole lot. For grunt stuff like bottoms, my favorite is a 6" dual action orbital made by several vendors. Go hook and loop 6 hole with dust extractor fitting that goes to a shop vac. Going one step further in grunt work (like removing old tabbing and fillet bonds), I go with the 4 1/2" grinder converted to a sander using flapper discs. I got the Fein, I got the Porter Cable 6", I got the Makita 4 1/2", I got a Makita belt sander, I got the Makita skinny belt sander with arm, I got a SawzAll, Skilsaw, and Jigsaw. In many cases, more than one. Just tooling along. Or as the Catman on this list used to say: "AAAAaaaaaaarggggggggg...." (A direct quote) Just think, for the price of going out to dinner in many places, one can have a nice tool that continues to please long after the heartburn from that dinner fades away. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Dutton Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:31 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP (Read, Chris, ch, etc) Ok, you all are in trouble! All of this talk of men and their tools and love of this tool and that tool and your continuous outpouring of links to tool websites has pushed me over the edge. I just purchased the Fein 250Q Top and my palms are already sweating even though it will take two days to arrive!! I am traveling to Delaware to work on getting my father's home ready for sale after he has been moved into an assisted living center, and reading the reviews I couldn't think of a single tool that I could take that would help me with all of the tasks I face -- plumbing repair, sanding sheetrock, removing tile sections, etc, etc. Then, I get to come home and sand the teak rails on my boat and get them ready for varnish! Having done this before with orbital palm sanders, I can't wait to try the Fein in close quarters work on the teak. I'm beginning to hope that the bottom needs painting this fall!! Way to go, guys. Boy is my crew gonna be pissed when she finds out what I just bought. 'Scuse me while I step out to a florist real quick and do some necesary damage control. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" PS I have learned more on this site about more things -- keep up the good work! "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Read <rs… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 3:56:21 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I > went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do > such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site > confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself > into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> > > > > Alfred > Here is a link which might be of interest: http://www.toolsnob .com/archives/ 2008/11/oscilati ng_tool_roundup. php <http://www.toolsnob.com/archives/2008/11/oscilating_tool_roundup.php> Let us know what you buy and how you like it. Read

While were on the subject my all time favorite is a 1934 9" Southbend Lathe, it will even turn a mast head sheave as well as some shafts, it still turns like the day it was shipped.. Love the old crank that turns the Farymann and disengages when starts. I have appreciated tools for years and patented inventor of hand tools, it is a very expensive process, but a great creative outlet.. Can't wait to apply some high tec. toward sailboat hardware. Mark From: Husar, Charlie [USA] To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] More Tools (Don) Don, I think you will find the Fein fine for precision work and tight areas. It is great for cutting straight lines at edges, sanding into corners, and the like. I believe that the Fein idea was created for things like cutting casts off people's body parts without messing up the person a whole lot. For grunt stuff like bottoms, my favorite is a 6" dual action orbital made by several vendors. Go hook and loop 6 hole with dust extractor fitting that goes to a shop vac. Going one step further in grunt work (like removing old tabbing and fillet bonds), I go with the 4 1/2" grinder converted to a sander using flapper discs. I got the Fein, I got the Porter Cable 6", I got the Makita 4 1/2", I got a Makita belt sander, I got the Makita skinny belt sander with arm, I got a SawzAll, Skilsaw, and Jigsaw. In many cases, more than one. Just tooling along. Or as the Catman on this list used to say: "AAAAaaaaaaarggggggggg...." (A direct quote) Just think, for the price of going out to dinner in many places, one can have a nice tool that continues to please long after the heartburn from that dinner fades away. Cheers Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Dutton Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:31 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP (Read, Chris, ch, etc) Ok, you all are in trouble! All of this talk of men and their tools and love of this tool and that tool and your continuous outpouring of links to tool websites has pushed me over the edge. I just purchased the Fein 250Q Top and my palms are already sweating even though it will take two days to arrive!! I am traveling to Delaware to work on getting my father's home ready for sale after he has been moved into an assisted living center, and reading the reviews I couldn't think of a single tool that I could take that would help me with all of the tasks I face -- plumbing repair, sanding sheetrock, removing tile sections, etc, etc. Then, I get to come home and sand the teak rails on my boat and get them ready for varnish! Having done this before with orbital palm sanders, I can't wait to try the Fein in close quarters work on the teak. I'm beginning to hope that the bottom needs painting this fall!! Way to go, guys. Boy is my crew gonna be pissed when she finds out what I just bought. 'Scuse me while I step out to a florist real quick and do some necesary damage control. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" PS I have learned more on this site about more things -- keep up the good work! "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Read <rs… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 3:56:21 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I > went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do > such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site > confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself > into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> > > > > Alfred > Here is a link which might be of interest: http://www.toolsnob .com/archives/ 2008/11/oscilati ng_tool_roundup. php Let us know what you buy and how you like it. Read __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3995 (20090408) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

I had bought a roto zip to cut grout out of a kitchen counter. The switch failed from the grout dust in one day. I took it back and bought a de walt grinder with a tile blade and still working great on tile grout, metal cut-off and sanding wood. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe DeMers To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP Here's why those abrasive discs have been discontinued - The dust created when grinding is inhaled into the Zip's motor, and trashes the bearings and windings. Now the Zip will last longer without that dust. Joe DeMers Sound Marine Diesel LLC www.soundmarinediesel.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Alfred Poor To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP Thanks for the many expressions of sympathy. Here's a brief postscript. I went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of the heavy grit grinding disks that do such a great job, but they didn't have any. A check of the Roto-Zip Web site confirms that THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE!!! It looks like I've got myself into a Fein mess, I guess. I'm going shopping. <g> Alfred ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.40 - Release Date: 4/3/2009 12:00 AM __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3997 (20090409) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

This has nothing to do with Rip Zips. But I am sitting at The Chart House in Marina Del Rey and looking at a Cal named Trilogy. Can someone tell me what model it is? Thanks Read Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:06:43 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP (Read, Chris, ch, etc) On Wednesday 08 April 2009 19:31:22 Donald Dutton wrote: If your really want to drool, then enjoy this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CW68Qohtus Should you get the itch to pull out the credit card, please consider this site first for family and crew harmony: http://www.ftd.com/ Best 20 bucks you'll ever spend. Just make sure they arrive before the Visa statement does. so the auditor is happy. One of the few blessing of being single. No need to send flowers to myself..;) -- /ch

A Cal 35 Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: "Read Howarth" <rs… [at] yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:19:49 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP (Read, Chris, ch, etc) This has nothing to do with Rip Zips. But I am sitting at The Chart House in Marina Del Rey and looking at a Cal named Trilogy. Can someone tell me what model it is? Thanks Read Read S. Howarth Moorestown, New Jersey rs… [at] yahoo.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: chris h <ch… [at] magma.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:06:43 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: RIP ZIP (Read, Chris, ch, etc) On Wednesday 08 April 2009 19:31:22 Donald Dutton wrote: If your really want to drool, then enjoy this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CW68Qohtus Should you get the itch to pull out the credit card, please consider this site first for family and crew harmony: http://www.ftd.com/ Best 20 bucks you'll ever spend. Just make sure they arrive before the Visa statement does. so the auditor is happy. One of the few blessing of being single. No need to send flowers to myself..;) -- /ch