Re: [Cal_Boats] Received Cal 28 Inquiry - Hope List Can Answer

There were 2 CAL 28 Models as far as I know. 1) The original CAL 28 (1965-68), this one was a Bill Lapworth Design, one of the "flat-top" CALs. 2) The Newer CAL 28 (Informally known as the 28-2) was built from 1985 to 1988, maybe 1989. This was a C.Raymond Hunt Associates-Design (John Deknatel, Chief Designer). I suspect that the CAL 28-2 SD would be the shoal-draft version of the 28-2 as the boat was offered in deep-keel 5'3" and shoal-keel 3'9" versions. Incidentally, the 28-2 was reintroduced in the Fall of 1990 as the O'DAY 290, same basic design as the CAL 28-2, but with a modified transom to include a swim step. This was after PEARSON YACHTS bought the assets of CAL/O'DAY a few months after the CAL/O'DAY company declared bankruptcy in May of 1989. The molds for the O'DAY 290 still exist as far as I know. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 and former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:29:51 -0000 "Bruce Stirling" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> writes: I received the following message via my Cal 28 web site. I did not know there were three (3) Cal 28s. What was produced in 1989? I love the interior of the newer Cal 28. Can someone else on the list please respond. I invited Jose to join the list, so maybe he will. "Hi! I own a Cal 28 (1986) that I brought from somebody else. The only documentation that I have is from your website (Thanks a lot!! Excellent job!!). My problem is that I don't know what model is mine: - Cal 28? - Cal 28-2? - Cal 28-2 SD? How could I know? Thanks, Jose Puerto Rico" Click here to find the perfect banking opportunity! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMLumqvEgJ8xQOKkCy3fwNpKEl5Gn86sZUKSJkq7zRoIZNLMdcsK0/

Hi, Rod. You captured two complex topics very succinctly. I was about to launch into a HIN answer that would never have come close to yours in clarity (if clarity is possible on this topic). Jan, do you have numbers on any sails that might be in the low hundreds? Do you have an old title? Jan, many HINs have been born in the parking lot outside the Department of Natural Resources if you know what I mean. (This is the name of the registration place in Maryland). Our public servants don't care that the numbers did not exist back then. They WANT one. They NEED one. So here is a build-yourself-a-HIN kit. CAB7nnnnmmyy - CAB is CAL boats. This was originally Jensen, but sold several times to other manufacturers. - 7 is model number. - nnnn is hull number from inside stern or under drawers (factory tracking mechanism for parts) or from sails - mm is month of manufacture. 06 (for June) sounds real good. - yy is year of manufacture. 71 in this case sounds OK. If you can't find a hull number, how about 0327, unless someone else on the list already has this number. Poof. CAB703270671. Sure looks official to me. Just a suggestion. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 12:41 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Received Cal 28 Inquiry - Hope List Can Answer There were 2 CAL 28 Models as far as I know. 1) The original CAL 28 (1965-68), this one was a Bill Lapworth Design, one of the "flat-top" CALs. 2) The Newer CAL 28 (Informally known as the 28-2) was built from 1985 to 1988, maybe 1989. This was a C.Raymond Hunt Associates-Design (John Deknatel, Chief Designer). I suspect that the CAL 28-2 SD would be the shoal-draft version of the 28-2 as the boat was offered in deep-keel 5'3" and shoal-keel 3'9" versions. Incidentally, the 28-2 was reintroduced in the Fall of 1990 as the O'DAY 290, same basic design as the CAL 28-2, but with a modified transom to include a swim step. This was after PEARSON YACHTS bought the assets of CAL/O'DAY a few months after the CAL/O'DAY company declared bankruptcy in May of 1989. The molds for the O'DAY 290 still exist as far as I know. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 and former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:29:51 -0000 "Bruce Stirling" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> writes: I received the following message via my Cal 28 web site. I did not know there were three (3) Cal 28s. What was produced in 1989? I love the interior of the newer Cal 28. Can someone else on the list please respond. I invited Jose to join the list, so maybe he will. "Hi! I own a Cal 28 (1986) that I brought from somebody else. The only documentation that I have is from your website (Thanks a lot!! Excellent job!!). My problem is that I don't know what model is mine: - Cal 28? - Cal 28-2? - Cal 28-2 SD? How could I know? Thanks, Jose Puerto Rico" Click here to find the perfect banking opportunity! <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2142/fc/BLSrjpTMLumqvEgJ8xQOKkCy3fw NpKEl5Gn86sZUKSJkq7zRoIZNLMdcsK0/>

Thanks, Rod! Just the sort of information I knew was out there. I will pass it on. There is a Cal 28-2 owner's group out there, too, that I just discovered. Maybe I saw it before. I will put a link to it, if another does not already exist on my site. Thanks, again, Rod. http://www.sailnet.com/forums/cal/44239-cal-28-2-owners-group.html --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Rodney G Johnson <rjohnson24@...> wrote: > > There were 2 CAL 28 Models as far as I know. > 1) The original CAL 28 (1965-68), this one was a Bill Lapworth Design, > one of the "flat-top" CALs. > > 2) The Newer CAL 28 (Informally known as the 28-2) was built from 1985 to > 1988, maybe 1989. This was a C.Raymond Hunt Associates-Design (John > Deknatel, Chief Designer). I suspect that the CAL 28-2 SD would be the > shoal-draft version of the 28-2 as the boat was offered in deep-keel 5'3" > and shoal-keel 3'9" versions. > > Incidentally, the 28-2 was reintroduced in the Fall of 1990 as the O'DAY > 290, same basic design as the CAL 28-2, but with a modified transom to > include a swim step. This was after PEARSON YACHTS bought the assets of > CAL/O'DAY a few months after the CAL/O'DAY company declared bankruptcy in > May of 1989. The molds for the O'DAY 290 still exist as far as I know. > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 > and former co-owner of "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 #285 > > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:29:51 -0000 "Bruce Stirling" > <bruce@...> writes: > I received the following message via my Cal 28 web site. I did not > know there were three (3) Cal 28s. What was produced in 1989? I love > the interior of the newer Cal 28. Can someone else on the list please > respond. I invited Jose to join the list, so maybe he will. > > "Hi! > I own a Cal 28 (1986) that I brought from somebody else. The only > documentation that I have is from your website (Thanks a lot!! > Excellent job!!). My problem is that I don't know what model is mine: > - Cal 28? > - Cal 28-2? > - Cal 28-2 SD? > > How could I know? > > Thanks, > > Jose > Puerto Rico" > ____________________________________________________________ > Click here to find the perfect banking opportunity! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMLumqvEgJ8xQOKkCy3fwNpKEl5Gn86sZUKSJkq7zRoIZNLMdcsK0/ >

Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: > > > Our public servants don't care that the numbers did not exist back > then. They WANT one. They NEED one. So here is a > build-yourself-a-HIN kit. > Charlie has captured the essence of the bureaucrat here. (This is not to say that all employees of bureaucratic organizations behave this way, but enough do to make the lesson worth learning). When you have an official form to fill out, it doesn't really matter much what you put on it, as long as you put something plausible on it. The goal is to get your form into the agency's official compilation of records and to get what you were seeking in return--license, ID, permission, whatever. Now, it is never advisable to lie or misrepresent. And sometimes the information may be essential to your own safety and well being, so be careful on those things. But if you don't really know what the answer is and it doesn't much matter, make a good guess and that's likely to be good enough. If the blanks are filled in, the bureaucratic mind is satisfied and moves on to the next challenge. If there is an empty space, the alarm bells go off, and your form is subjected to a higher level of scrutiny. This is not good. We have some official form at work that I am required to fill out quarterly and send in to an administrative office. I keep one in my desk drawer, and when I get the e-mail reminding me that I haven't submitted it, I pull it out, erase the last date and add a new one in pencil, and stick it on the fax machine. Everybody is happy. Chris Campbell