Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club(Mike K.)

Mike, Funny you should bring that up. I belong to the Jackson Park Yacht Club; founded in 1896. We are the closest yc to where Obama lives, Hyde Park, many of our members are University of Chicago faculty, many of our members live in Hyde Park. We are a very diverse club, about 50-50 black & white, We have boats that seriously race, and those that club race. We usually have a half dozen boats in the Mac Race every year. We have a nice little clubhouse, we have a steward that steps masts. We are the organizing authority for 3 LMSRF races during the season.. We're the perfect place for an "Obama Sail". Not only that, one of my friends, who is a kick-ass sailor on a Pearson 30 is also a Tuskegee Airman. Jack could show him how to sail! Regards, David Dobbs, Cal29 411 --- On Tue, 5/5/09, mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> wrote: From: mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: A Cal named "Bo" was: Is There yet another Chris for this Cal-20? To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 2:26 PM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@ ...> wrote: > > Gerald Sobel wrote: > > I still say we (the sailing community, not just us meager listees > > altho the number of members is now quite formidable), should get > > President Obama and his family a Cal 20 so he could relax, enjoy it, > > and use his bully pulpit and star power to save sailing. > > > > There's a long tradition of sailing presidents. If you go to Mystic > Seaport, they've got FDR's little sailboat, with a description telling > you that he spent his last healthy day before he was paralyzed with > polio sailing on that boat. After his presidential nominations, he'd > charter a boat and go cruising with his sons as crew. One night when > conditions were a bit dirty he took the 9 p.m. to midnight watch. Think > of it--the paralyzed guy out there in the dark, sailing his boat along > in rough seas. He was apparently a pretty good sailor. He was also stimulated to spend time on various boats during the late 1920s and early 30s by the presence of Missy LeHand, his secretary and main squeeze during that time. A recent biography points out the therapeutic benefit of finding that paralysis was limited to his legs, if you know what I mean.. Also, his relationship with Lucy Mercer lasted until his death. She was with him at Warm Springs when he died. And JFK was an > active sailor. My Dad used to laugh about that. You'd always read > about the Kennedys sailing on the "family yacht" which conjured up an > image of some enormous and imposing vessel. Then he saw a picture and > it was about the size of our boat. Ted has been a big time sailor and that is what got him into trouble at Chappaquiddick. It was the end of the Block Island Series, I believe, or may be Block Island Race Week, I've forgotten, but that was the occasion of the party with Mary Jo Kopechne. > > So maybe we can talk Obama into taking up sailing. Somehow, he doesn't look like a sailor although Chicago is a great sailing center. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Chris Campbell > > >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, david dobbs <tmft567@...> wrote: > > Mike, Funny you should bring that up. I belong to the Jackson Park Yacht Club; founded in 1896. We are the closest yc to where Obama lives, Hyde Park, many of our members are University of Chicago faculty, many of our members live in Hyde Park. We are a very diverse club, about 50-50 black & white, We have boats that seriously race, and those that club race. We usually have a half dozen boats in the Mac Race every year. We have a nice little clubhouse, we have a steward that steps masts. We are the organizing authority for 3 LMSRF races during the season.. We're the perfect place for an "Obama Sail". > Not only that, one of my friends, who is a kick-ass sailor on a Pearson 30 is also a Tuskegee Airman. Jack could show him how to sail! > > Regards, > David Dobbs, Cal29 411 > > Where is the clubhouse ? I grew up in South Shore and our next door neighbors used to keep their sailboat in the side yard every winter. I remember when the Coast Guard had that station at Jackson Park. I rode my bike past there 1000 times. Maybe 10,000. I was a golfer in those days and played Jackson Park every day there wasn't snow. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

David, You should do it!! Send this thread to Obama and see what they say. Imagine taking the POTUS on a boat ride on a Cal! Donald Dutton "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 3:59:05 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club(Mike K.) --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, david dobbs <tmft567@... > wrote: > > Mike, Funny you should bring that up. I belong to the Jackson Park Yacht Club; founded in 1896. We are the closest yc to where Obama lives, Hyde Park, many of our members are University of Chicago faculty, many of our members live in Hyde Park. We are a very diverse club, about 50-50 black & white, We have boats that seriously race, and those that club race. We usually have a half dozen boats in the Mac Race every year. We have a nice little clubhouse, we have a steward that steps masts. We are the organizing authority for 3 LMSRF races during the season.. We're the perfect place for an "Obama Sail". > Not only that, one of my friends, who is a kick-ass sailor on a Pearson 30 is also a Tuskegee Airman. Jack could show him how to sail! > > Regards, > David Dobbs, Cal29 411 > > Where is the clubhouse ? I grew up in South Shore and our next door neighbors used to keep their sailboat in the side yard every winter. I remember when the Coast Guard had that station at Jackson Park. I rode my bike past there 1000 times. Maybe 10,000. I was a golfer in those days and played Jackson Park every day there wasn't snow. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Mike, The clubhouse is on the east side of the harbor, opposite the old CG station, which has been rehabbed and now is the harbormaster's office. They have installed floating docks, which displaced about 3/4 of the floating moorings. The address is 6400 S. Promontory Dr. Do a google earth search. It'll even show how much the harbor has shoaled, but that's another story. Website is www.jacksonparkyachtclub.org. Dave .. --- On Tue, 5/5/09, mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> wrote: From: mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club(Mike K.) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 5:59 PM --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, david dobbs <tmft567@... > wrote: > > Mike, Funny you should bring that up. I belong to the Jackson Park Yacht Club; founded in 1896. We are the closest yc to where Obama lives, Hyde Park, many of our members are University of Chicago faculty, many of our members live in Hyde Park. We are a very diverse club, about 50-50 black & white, We have boats that seriously race, and those that club race. We usually have a half dozen boats in the Mac Race every year. We have a nice little clubhouse, we have a steward that steps masts. We are the organizing authority for 3 LMSRF races during the season.. We're the perfect place for an "Obama Sail". > Not only that, one of my friends, who is a kick-ass sailor on a Pearson 30 is also a Tuskegee Airman. Jack could show him how to sail! > > Regards, > David Dobbs, Cal29 411 > > Where is the clubhouse ? I grew up in South Shore and our next door neighbors used to keep their sailboat in the side yard every winter. I remember when the Coast Guard had that station at Jackson Park. I rode my bike past there 1000 times. Maybe 10,000. I was a golfer in those days and played Jackson Park every day there wasn't snow. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

it ain't bassetball Donald Dutton wrote: > > > David, > > You should do it!! Send this thread to Obama and see what they say. > Imagine taking the POTUS on a boat ride on a Cal! > > Donald Dutton > > "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things > you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the > bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in > your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2009 3:59:05 PM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club(Mike K.) > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, david dobbs <tmft567@... > wrote: > > > > Mike, Funny you should bring that up. I belong to the Jackson Park > Yacht Club; founded in 1896. We are the closest yc to where Obama > lives, Hyde Park, many of our members are University of Chicago > faculty, many of our members live in Hyde Park. We are a very diverse > club, about 50-50 black & white, We have boats that seriously race, > and those that club race. We usually have a half dozen boats in the > Mac Race every year. We have a nice little clubhouse, we have a > steward that steps masts. We are the organizing authority for 3 LMSRF > races during the season.. We're the perfect place for an "Obama Sail". > > Not only that, one of my friends, who is a kick-ass sailor on a > Pearson 30 is also a Tuskegee Airman. Jack could show him how to sail! > > > > Regards, > > David Dobbs, Cal29 411 > > > > > > Where is the clubhouse ? I grew up in South Shore and our next door > neighbors used to keep their sailboat in the side yard every winter. I > remember when the Coast Guard had that station at Jackson Park. I rode > my bike past there 1000 times. Maybe 10,000. I was a golfer in those > days and played Jackson Park every day there wasn't snow. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > > > -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ -The Dogs Place <http://www.the-dogs-place.com/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

But he got a Portugese Water Dog -- what do Basset Hounds have to do with it??? Oh, you meant...... Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" PS Some world cruising friends of ours had a PWD and they are the most even tempered dogs I have ever seen -- right up there with Labradors! Good for kids and for cruising! "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Marsh Wise <ma… [at] reenactor.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:35:52 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club (David) it ain't bassetball Donald Dutton wrote: David, You should do it!! Send this thread to Obama and see what they say. Imagine taking the POTUS on a boat ride on a Cal! Donald Dutton "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: mtkennedy1 <mtkennedy1@cox. net> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 3:59:05 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club(Mike K.) --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, david dobbs <tmft567@... > wrote: > > Mike, Funny you should bring that up. I belong to the Jackson Park Yacht Club; founded in 1896. We are the closest yc to where Obama lives, Hyde Park, many of our members are University of Chicago faculty, many of our members live in Hyde Park. We are a very diverse club, about 50-50 black & white, We have boats that seriously race, and those that club race. We usually have a half dozen boats in the Mac Race every year. We have a nice little clubhouse, we have a steward that steps masts. We are the organizing authority for 3 LMSRF races during the season.. We're the perfect place for an "Obama Sail". > Not only that, one of my friends, who is a kick-ass sailor on a Pearson 30 is also a Tuskegee Airman. Jack could show him how to sail! > > Regards, > David Dobbs, Cal29 411 > > Where is the clubhouse ? I grew up in South Shore and our next door neighbors used to keep their sailboat in the side yard every winter. I remember when the Coast Guard had that station at Jackson Park. I rode my bike past there 1000 times. Maybe 10,000. I was a golfer in those days and played Jackson Park every day there wasn't snow. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ------------ --------- -------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenacto r.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenacto r.net/rnet_ admin/marsh/ marshblog. html> -1./Infanterie- Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23. org> -Foresthill. US: <http://www.foresthi ll.us/> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ -The Dogs Place <http://www.the- dogs-place. com/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenacto r.net/vaq- 33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenacto r.net/forums/ index.php> right now!

I have a Red heeler... she'd eat any of these lesser dogs. Actually, she'd eat corrupt and incompetent politicians too. Sailing content: She likes the boat. She likes water and stinky stuff down BY the water. Docks were scary until we were carried out onto them and discovered that great delicacy, duck poo!!! Donald Dutton wrote: > > > But he got a Portugese Water Dog -- what do Basset Hounds have to do > with it??? > > Oh, you meant...... > > Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" > > PS Some world cruising friends of ours had a PWD and they are the > most even tempered dogs I have ever seen -- right up there with > Labradors! Good for kids and for cruising! > > "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things > you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the > bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in > your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Marsh Wise <ma… [at] reenactor.net> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:35:52 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club (David) > > it ain't bassetball > > Donald Dutton wrote: > >> David, >> >> You should do it!! Send this thread to Obama and see what they say. >> Imagine taking the POTUS on a boat ride on a Cal! >> >> Donald Dutton >> >> "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things >> you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the >> bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in >> your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* mtkennedy1 <mtkennedy1@cox. net> >> *To:* Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2009 3:59:05 PM >> *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club(Mike K.) >> >> --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >> <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, david dobbs <tmft567@... > wrote: >> > >> > Mike, Funny you should bring that up. I belong to the Jackson Park >> Yacht Club; founded in 1896. We are the closest yc to where Obama >> lives, Hyde Park, many of our members are University of Chicago >> faculty, many of our members live in Hyde Park. We are a very >> diverse club, about 50-50 black & white, We have boats that seriously >> race, and those that club race. We usually have a half dozen boats >> in the Mac Race every year. We have a nice little clubhouse, we have >> a steward that steps masts. We are the organizing authority for 3 >> LMSRF races during the season.. We're the perfect place for an >> "Obama Sail". >> > Not only that, one of my friends, who is a kick-ass sailor on a >> Pearson 30 is also a Tuskegee Airman. Jack could show him how to sail! >> > >> > Regards, >> > David Dobbs, Cal29 411 >> > >> > >> >> Where is the clubhouse ? I grew up in South Shore and our next door >> neighbors used to keep their sailboat in the side yard every winter. >> I remember when the Coast Guard had that station at Jackson Park. I >> rode my bike past there 1000 times. Maybe 10,000. I was a golfer in >> those days and played Jackson Park every day there wasn't snow. >> >> Mike Kennedy >> Conquest Cal 40 # 96 >> > > -- > *´¨) > ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) > (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh > ------------ --------- -------- > Marsh Wise > Webmaster: > -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenacto r.net/> > > Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenacto r.net/rnet_ admin/marsh/ marshblog. html> > > -1./Infanterie- Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23. org> > -Foresthill. US: <http://www.foresthi ll.us/> > -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ > -The Dogs Place <http://www.the- dogs-place. com/> > > Assistant Webmaster: > -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenacto r.net/vaq- 33/> > > Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > > Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > > Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > > "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton > > Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > > *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? > Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenacto r.net/forums/ index.php> right now! > > > -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ -The Dogs Place <http://www.the-dogs-place.com/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now!

Can't say as I've made acquaintance with a Red heeler in my experience -- any pictures on the boat or along the shore?? My black Lab hates the water, but begs to go outside anytime the cat is coming inside -- always comes back in with sand on her nose!! Man, that's gross, but geez it would be great to be a dog and have stuff like that make you happy?! I saw a Portugese Water Dog take out a Doberman at Liberty Landing Marina in New Jersey, so they aren't all that timid when the cards are on the table. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Marsh Wise <ma… [at] reenactor.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 7:22:48 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club (David) I have a Red heeler... she'd eat any of these lesser dogs. Actually, she'd eat corrupt and incompetent politicians too. Sailing content: She likes the boat. She likes water and stinky stuff down BY the water. Docks were scary until we were carried out onto them and discovered that great delicacy, duck poo!!! Donald Dutton wrote: But he got a Portugese Water Dog -- what do Basset Hounds have to do with it??? Oh, you meant...... Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" PS Some world cruising friends of ours had a PWD and they are the most even tempered dogs I have ever seen -- right up there with Labradors! Good for kids and for cruising! "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain

On May 5, 2009, at 6:02 PM, david dobbs wrote: > > > > Mike, > The clubhouse is on the east side of the harbor, opposite the old CG > station, which has been rehabbed and now is the harbormaster's > office. They have installed floating docks, which displaced about > 3/4 of the floating moorings. The address is 6400 S. Promontory > Dr. Do a google earth search. It'll even show how much the harbor > has shoaled, but that's another story. Website > iswww.jacksonparkyachtclub.org. > > Dave > > . That's interesting. Next time I'm in Chicago I'll go by. The old La Rabida Sanitarium must be behind the clubhouse. I had a family friend who spent two years there after she had rheumatic fever at the age of six or so. In pre-penicillin days that was the only treatment. She had two years of bed rest. Now she is in her mid-70s and has four grown kids. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Hi all, We have a 1 year old Portugese Water Dog named "Barley". It was a deal I had to make to get the boat. My wife gets the dog she wanted and I was finally able to buy a boat. He took to the boat like an old salt, hiking out on the high side with every tack. Very energetic dog that will even outlast the energizer bunny, lots of work to keep out of trouble, but a great boat dog. Bryan Saulsbury Cal 2-27 Boris From: Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:24:01 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Dogs on Yachts (Marsh) Can't say as I've made acquaintance with a Red heeler in my experience -- any pictures on the boat or along the shore?? My black Lab hates the water, but begs to go outside anytime the cat is coming inside -- always comes back in with sand on her nose!! Man, that's gross, but geez it would be great to be a dog and have stuff like that make you happy?! I saw a Portugese Water Dog take out a Doberman at Liberty Landing Marina in New Jersey, so they aren't all that timid when the cards are on the table. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Marsh Wise <marsh@reenactor. net> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 7:22:48 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re:Presidential Yacht Club (David) I have a Red heeler... she'd eat any of these lesser dogs. Actually, she'd eat corrupt and incompetent politicians too. Sailing content: She likes the boat. She likes water and stinky stuff down BY the water. Docks were scary until we were carried out onto them and discovered that great delicacy, duck poo!!! Donald Dutton wrote: But he got a Portugese Water Dog -- what do Basset Hounds have to do with it??? Oh, you meant...... Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" PS Some world cruising friends of ours had a PWD and they are the most even tempered dogs I have ever seen -- right up there with Labradors! Good for kids and for cruising! "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain