RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging (Scott)

Scott, I upsized the standing rigging on Magic (Cal 2-27)... It gives me peace of mind. Michael --- On Wed, 5/20/09, st… [at] us.ul.com <st… [at] us.ul.com> wrote: From: st… [at] us.ul.com <st… [at] us.ul.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging (Scott) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 9:53 PM Peace of mind...because Steve Seal published an article discussing the inadequacy of 27's stock wire size. However, the guys at RO initially felt my stock wire size was sufficient given the rig dimension and displacement. But, I persisted and they found a solution. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and I know now that the 27 Steve wrote about was a 2-27 (6700# displacement) I'm sailing a original 27 at 5400# displacement. So, I may have over-reacted and maybe did not need to super-size my rigging. However, the cost difference of a size up is really quite small. The tricky thing is finding the correct studs, pins, and tangs to make the whole thing come together. "Scott Cyphers" <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> "Scott Cyphers" <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> Sent by: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com 05/20/2009 08:30 PM Please respond to Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com To <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> cc Subject RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging (Scott) Did you go up a size just for piece of mind or because you were going to blue water cruise? Scott C. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of steven.j.urbanski@ us.ul.com Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:21 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging (Scott) Scott, I went up a sire size all-around so, I spent considerable time talking with the guys about the best way to do it. I trust them. My first season with this boat, I had a local shop duplicate the standing rigging. The "rigger" was not fluent in English. Maybe this matters, maybe not. I know he did not sail. I do not think he had the knowledge of materials, working loads, sheer strengths, etc... the guys at Rigging Only do. I also replaced my turnbuckles with Garhauer and new aluminum spreaders from JSI. The integrity of my standing rigging is second only to the strength of the bolts that hold my keel on. I'm not sure where price figures into this. "Scott Cyphers" <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> "Scott Cyphers" <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> Sent by: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com 05/20/2009 06:24 PM Please respond to Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com To <Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com> cc Subject RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging How much did they charge for all the standing rigging? I have Cal 29 as well. Steve Seals quoted me about $1000. Scott C. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of david dobbs Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:28 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging I have used Rigging Only for 3 or 4 years. Good prices, good service. They built me a new outhaul system which works great. I am going to order some new bronze turnbuckle bodies, best price I've found. David Dobbs, Cal 29 411 --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Chris Martin <notcmartin@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Chris Martin <notcmartin@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 3:13 PM I recently got a quote from http://www.riggingo nly.com/ . Has anyone dealt with them? From: "timmothy.lessley@ ch2m.com" <timmothy.lessley@ ch2m.com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:56:48 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging you can always measure your rigging, and have a rigging shop make it for you, there are many.. even West Marine. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of david paulson Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:33 AM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging JR Let me talk to Bill who I own the boat with between us we will try to approx. how long ago dave Paulson From: jr_rousseve <jr_rousseve@ yahoo.com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:51:45 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging HI Dave Do you remember how long ago that was.? JR --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, david paulson <dpaulson6354@ ...> wrote: > > JR > I think the standing rigging was replaced when your boat was next to us. I remember the guy taking the parts up to the chandlery to have then duplicated > Dave Paulson > Allergia > Channel Islands > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: jr_rousseve <jr_rousseve@ ...> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:53:32 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Standing Rigging > > > > > > I have open barrel turnbuckles, and no sleves. Would that cause rust? > > JR > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@ ...> wrote: > > > > JR, a few side questions. Do you have open barrel or closed barrel > > turnbuckles? Do you have any plastic sleeves over your shrouds or > > lifelines. Reason I'm asking is because of rust causes. > > > > Cheers > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On > > Behalf Of jr_rousseve > > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Standing Rigging > > > > Hi All > > I recentley had a lifeline break on my boat. Well this started me > > looking at the standing rigging.. There is some rust, but no fracturs > > that I can see. Iam not shur when it was changed last, but Iam thinking > > now would be a good time to change it. Dose anyone Know a good swaging > > service in the Chanel Island aria, as I plain on changing it out myself. > > > > Thanks very much > > JR > > Cal 2-30 > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! 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