RE: [Cal_Boats]Crossing the Bard, Tom Miller

So, re: Oregon's safest harbor, How high do the waves break? We used to have a guy in this group (in the Sailnet days of yore) sailing his Cal 24 Oldie out of San Luis Obispo out into the Pacific, single handing out to sea up to the North off "Frisco", and zipping around California's Cape Horn in a 45 knot blow, who would take refuge from storms by hiding in the lee of that first little treacherous Channel Islands Island, ducking into the kelp along with the friendly Sea Otters. He used to be a fisherman. his remedy for the Cal 24's ample sized cockpit and tiny drains was to rig a spray apron around himself like an Inuit Kayaker. He had to single-hand. Everyone, including his wife, was too terrified to go out sailing with him. Jerry --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:46 PM I thought of sailing my Cal 29 up from the San Francisco Bay . I would have to come in at Bandon or the Coquille River . No thank you it has breaking waves all the way across both places on a normal day. I don’t know how the fisherman do it. I hear Newport is also a good place. Let me know how it plays out. When do you think you will make the trip? Scott C. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Tom Miller Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:38 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller I'm in Brookings. They say it's the safest bar on the Oregon coast. Ha ha, of course safe is a relative term when you're talking about harbors on the Oregon coast. It is a very nice little port though. Tom --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> wrote: From: Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 9:58 AM Where in Oregon do you want to sail? I am in Coquille. That is by Bandon. The entries past the break waters are really rough out here. I’ve had to leave my Cal 29 in Berkeley , Ca for now. Scott C.

Jerry, I met him at the little vintage boat Marina in Morrow Bay one day while out with the wife. I knew who he was immediately when I saw him puttering on his Lapworth -- from his posts on the Cal List. What an amazing and interesting sailor he was. Don't I recall that he took the keel off of that boat on purpose? I think so. What an iron character and a really fun guy to yarn with. I've forgotten his name. Wilkie On May 27, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote: > > > > So, re: Oregon's safest harbor, How high do the waves break? > > We used to have a guy in this group (in the Sailnet days of yore) > sailing his Cal 24 Oldie out of San Luis Obispo out into the > Pacific, single handing out to sea up to the North off "Frisco", and > zipping around California's Cape Horn in a 45 knot blow, who would > take refuge from storms by hiding in the lee of that first little > treacherous Channel Islands Island, ducking into the kelp along with > the friendly Sea Otters. > He used to be a fisherman. his remedy for the Cal 24's ample sized > cockpit and tiny drains was to rig a spray apron around himself like > an Inuit Kayaker. > > He had to single-hand. Everyone, including his wife, was too > terrified to go out sailing with him. > Jerry > > --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net>wrote: > > From: Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:46 PM > > > I thought of sailing my Cal 29 up from the San Francisco Bay . I > would have to come in at Bandon or the Coquille River . No thank you > it has breaking waves all the way across both places on a normal > day. I don’t know how the fisherman do it. I hear Newport is also a > good place. Let me know how it plays out. When do you think you will > make the trip? > > Scott C. > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup > s.com]On Behalf Of Tom Miller > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:38 PM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller > > > > > > > I'm in Brookings. They say it's the safest bar on the Oregon > coast. Ha ha, of course safe is a relative term when you're talking > about harbors on the Oregon coast. It is a very nice little port > though. > > > Tom > > --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. > net>wrote: > > > From: Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 9:58 AM > > > Where in Oregon do you want to sail? I am in Coquille. That is by > Bandon. The entries past the break waters are really rough out here. > I’ve had to leave my Cal 29 in Berkeley , Ca for now. > > Scott C. > > > > >

Hi Gerald, The wave break depends on what's going on outside. A lot of times it's very mello but in the winter we get strong southwest winds that shoot right in the river entrance and they are not nice. Also, we have a problem with sneaker waves that will come out of no where and whack you. Oregon is an amazing place to live though. :) Tom --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats]Crossing the Bard, Tom Miller To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 10:57 PM So, re: Oregon's safest harbor, How high do the waves break? We used to have a guy in this group (in the Sailnet days of yore) sailing his Cal 24 Oldie out of San Luis Obispo out into the Pacific, single handing out to sea up to the North off "Frisco", and zipping around California's Cape Horn in a 45 knot blow, who would take refuge from storms by hiding in the lee of that first little treacherous Channel Islands Island, ducking into the kelp along with the friendly Sea Otters. He used to be a fisherman. his remedy for the Cal 24's ample sized cockpit and tiny drains was to rig a spray apron around himself like an Inuit Kayaker. He had to single-hand. Everyone, including his wife, was too terrified to go out sailing with him. Jerry --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:46 PM I thought of sailing my Cal 29 up from the San Francisco Bay . I would have to come in at Bandon or the Coquille River . No thank you it has breaking waves all the way across both places on a normal day. I don’t know how the fisherman do it. I hear Newport is also a good place. Let me know how it plays out. When do you think you will make the trip? Scott C. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Tom Miller Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:38 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller I'm in Brookings. They say it's the safest bar on the Oregon coast. Ha ha, of course safe is a relative term when you're talking about harbors on the Oregon coast. It is a very nice little port though. Tom --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> wrote: From: Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 9:58 AM Where in Oregon do you want to sail? I am in Coquille. That is by Bandon. The entries past the break waters are really rough out here. I’ve had to leave my Cal 29 in Berkeley , Ca for now. Scott C.

The potato patch shoals leaving the SF Bay also is interesting when ebbing, wind from the southwest and large rollers from the northwest. While racing the MORA series in the 70's, the Coast Guard "closed" the ocean for a couple weeks while a large storm cell moved through and churned up everything . The next weekend we raced and the potato patch was like sailing in a washing maching, a true test for the scuppers in the cockpit and the stomach...... The Coast Guard still responded to several boats and brought them back, downed rigs and broken rudder..... Tom Miller wrote: > > > Hi Gerald, > > The wave break depends on what's going on outside. A lot of times > it's very mello but in the winter we get strong southwest winds that > shoot right in the river entrance and they are not nice. Also, we > have a problem with sneaker waves that will come out of no where and > whack you. Oregon is an amazing place to live though. :) > > Tom > > --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats]Crossing the Bard, Tom Miller > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 10:57 PM > > > > So, re: Oregon's safest harbor, How high do the waves break? > > We used to have a guy in this group (in the Sailnet days of yore) > sailing his Cal 24 Oldie out of San Luis Obispo out into the > Pacific, single handing out to sea up to the North off "Frisco", > and zipping around California's Cape Horn in a 45 knot blow, who > would take refuge from storms by hiding in the lee of that first > little treacherous Channel Islands Island, ducking into the kelp > along with the friendly Sea Otters. > He used to be a fisherman. his remedy for the Cal 24's ample sized > cockpit and tiny drains was to rig a spray apron around himself > like an Inuit Kayaker. > > He had to single-hand. Everyone, including his wife, was too > terrified to go out sailing with him. > Jerry > > --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > From: Scott Cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:46 PM > > I thought of sailing my Cal 29 up from the San Francisco Bay . > I would have to come in at Bandon or the Coquille River . No > thank you it has breaking waves all the way across both places > on a normal day. I don’t know how the fisherman do it. I hear > Newport is also a good place. Let me know how it plays out. > When do you think you will make the trip? > > Scott C. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup > s.com] On Behalf Of Tom Miller > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:38 PM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller > > > > > > > I'm in Brookings. They say it's the safest bar on the Oregon > coast. Ha ha, of course safe is a relative term when you're > talking about harbors on the Oregon coast. It is a very nice > little port though. > > > > Tom > > --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> > wrote: > > > From: Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 9:58 AM > > > > Where in Oregon do you want to sail? I am in Coquille. That is > by Bandon. The entries past the break waters are really rough > out here. I’ve had to leave my Cal 29 in Berkeley , Ca for now. > > Scott C. > > > > > > > > >