Re: [Cal_Boats]Moro bay Cal 24 Sailor was:Crossing the Bard(David Owen)

David, He took the centerboard out of the keel (the keel is an integral part of the Cal24, with molded in lead) and put a lead shoe in instead that drew maybe a foot or less of additional draft, which gave him about the same amount of ballast and maybe even just as much bite as the feeble 1/8 of a pie section that the standard centerboard does. The Harbor at Moro bay is very shallow, and he, like I, found the existing CB very inefficient. Maybe I got his name somewhere in my files, but have me doubts. I wonder if he's with us, or Old Neptune's got him? Jerry --- On Thu, 5/28/09, DavidOwen <wi… [at] mariposasailing.com> wrote: From: DavidOwen <wi… [at] mariposasailing.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats]Crossing the Bard, Tom Miller To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 12:13 AM Jerry, I met him at the little vintage boat Marina in Morrow Bay one day while out with the wife. I knew who he was immediately when I saw him puttering on his Lapworth -- from his posts on the Cal List. What an amazing and interesting sailor he was. Don't I recall that he took the keel off of that boat on purpose? I think so. What an iron character and a really fun guy to yarn with.I've forgotten his name. Wilkie On May 27, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote: So, re: Oregon's safest harbor, How high do the waves break? We used to have a guy in this group (in the Sailnet days of yore) sailing his Cal 24 Oldie out of San Luis Obispo out into the Pacific, single handing out to sea up to the North off "Frisco", and zipping around California's Cape Horn in a 45 knot blow, who would take refuge from storms by hiding in the lee of that first little treacherous Channel Islands Island, ducking into the kelp along with the friendly Sea Otters. He used to be a fisherman. his remedy for the Cal 24's ample sized cockpit and tiny drains was to rig a spray apron around himself like an Inuit Kayaker. He had to single-hand. Everyone, including his wife, was too terrified to go out sailing with him. Jerry --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net>wrote: From: Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:46 PM I thought of sailing my Cal 29 up from the San Francisco Bay . I would have to come in at Bandon or the Coquille River . No thank you it has breaking waves all the way across both places on a normal day. I don’t know how the fisherman do it. I hear Newport is also a good place. Let me know how it plays out. When do you think you will make the trip?Scott C. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com]On Behalf Of Tom Miller Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:38 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller I'm in Brookings. They say it's the safest bar on the Oregon coast. Ha ha, of course safe is a relative term when you're talking about harbors on the Oregon coast. It is a very nice little port though. Tom --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net>wrote: From: Scott Cyphers <scottcyphers@ sbcglobal. net> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Tom Miller To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 9:58 AM Where in Oregon do you want to sail? I am in Coquille. That is by Bandon. The entries past the break waters are really rough out here. I’ve had to leave my Cal 29 in Berkeley , Ca for now.Scott C.

Gang, This is one of the reasons that I bought the Simrad the last time around..... I don't know where to mount the course computer and fluxgate compass. I mean I have some ideas but thought I'd ask if any of you had already been down this road and had an problems or solutions to report. Where did you mount the fluxgate compass and how did it work out? Where did you mount the course computer box and how did that work out? What Cal boat are we talking about? I have a 29. Thanks in advance, David "sad to see my Simrad go since it still works" Owen

David, I installed a Ray Marine AP in my Cal 29 and have had no problems with it in the three years I've had it. I installed the heading sensor in the storage compartment under the fwd dinette seat. It's mounted on the aft bulkhead as far to the stbd. as possible. This puts the sensor close to being over the keel. It's near the waterline and close to center of the boat. The draw back is that it's close to the steel beam. After completing the sea trial calibration the compass matches my binnacle compass within three degrees. The only problem I had is when I set my tool box on the floor under the dinette table while transiting from one marina to another. It caused the pilot to be very sluggish. So you do need to be carful not to store large metal objects in that storage area. I mounted the course computer in the cabin on the stbd. side of the cabin steps. It covers a hole where there once was an electrical panel. You need to be able access this to wire it up, but once installation is complete, you shouldn't have to access it. I hope this helps. Good luck with your installation. George --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, DavidOwen <wilkie@...> wrote: > > > Gang, > > This is one of the reasons that I bought the Simrad the last time > around..... > > I don't know where to mount the course computer and fluxgate compass. > I mean I have some ideas but thought I'd ask if any of you had already > been down this road and had an problems or solutions to report. > > Where did you mount the fluxgate compass and how did it work out? > Where did you mount the course computer box and how did that work out? > What Cal boat are we talking about? I have a 29. > > Thanks in advance, > > David "sad to see my Simrad go since it still works" Owen >

Wilkie, On the Flying Tiger we mounted the compass in the Vee birth and the computer in the Nav station. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient DavidOwen wrote: > Gang, > This is one of the reasons that I bought the Simrad the last time > around..... > I don't know where to mount the course computer and fluxgate compass. > I mean I have some ideas but thought I'd ask if any of you had already > been down this road and had an problems or solutions to report. > Where did you mount the fluxgate compass and how did it work out? > Where did you mount the course computer box and how did that work out? > What Cal boat are we talking about? I have a 29. > Thanks in advance, > David "sad to see my Simrad go since it still works" Owen >

George, Thanks so much for your report. I was hoping that would work for the compass and now that I think more about the beam I realize that mine was replaced with stainless and should be non-magnetic.... I think. Is that right? I guess some signage NOT to put cook pots, dive gear, knives, assault guns (just kidding) and the like in that storage bin alongside the compass. I was thinking I'd put the brain on the aft bulkhead at the foot of the starboard quarterberth -- do you think that would work or does it need to be near the centerline. I also have a blank wall outside the engine room where an electrical panel used to be that I could use if it was better.... David On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:44 AM, seafloor12 wrote: > > > David, > > I installed a Ray Marine AP in my Cal 29 and have had no problems > with it in the three years I've had it. I installed the heading > sensor in the storage compartment under the fwd dinette seat. It's > mounted on the aft bulkhead as far to the stbd. as possible. This > puts the sensor close to being over the keel. It's near the > waterline and close to center of the boat. The draw back is that > it's close to the steel beam. After completing the sea trial > calibration the compass matches my binnacle compass within three > degrees. The only problem I had is when I set my tool box on the > floor under the dinette table while transiting from one marina to > another. It caused the pilot to be very sluggish. So you do need to > be carful not to store large metal objects in that storage area. > > I mounted the course computer in the cabin on the stbd. side of the > cabin steps. It covers a hole where there once was an electrical > panel. You need to be able access this to wire it up, but once > installation is complete, you shouldn't have to access it. > > I hope this helps. Good luck with your installation. > > George > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, DavidOwen <wilkie@...> wrote: > > > > > > Gang, > > > > This is one of the reasons that I bought the Simrad the last time > > around..... > > > > I don't know where to mount the course computer and fluxgate > compass. > > I mean I have some ideas but thought I'd ask if any of you had > already > > been down this road and had an problems or solutions to report. > > > > Where did you mount the fluxgate compass and how did it work out? > > Where did you mount the course computer box and how did that work > out? > > What Cal boat are we talking about? I have a 29. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > David "sad to see my Simrad go since it still works" Owen > > > > >

Hi David, Having a stainless beam is even better! It wont affect the compass. My unit came with a decal to put on the storage compartment as a reminder not to store metal objects there. As for the controller, I think the only requirement is that it stays dry, and that the wires from the sensors will reach it. I think either of the two location you mentioned will work. George --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, DavidOwen <wilkie@...> wrote: > > > George, > > Thanks so much for your report. I was hoping that would work for the > compass and now that I think more about the beam I realize that mine > was replaced with stainless and should be non-magnetic.... I think. > Is that right? I guess some signage NOT to put cook pots, dive gear, > knives, assault guns (just kidding) and the like in that storage bin > alongside the compass. > > I was thinking I'd put the brain on the aft bulkhead at the foot of > the starboard quarterberth -- do you think that would work or does it > need to be near the centerline. I also have a blank wall outside the > engine room where an electrical panel used to be that I could use if > it was better.... > > David > > > > > On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:44 AM, seafloor12 wrote: > > > > > > > David, > > > > I installed a Ray Marine AP in my Cal 29 and have had no problems > > with it in the three years I've had it. I installed the heading > > sensor in the storage compartment under the fwd dinette seat. It's > > mounted on the aft bulkhead as far to the stbd. as possible. This > > puts the sensor close to being over the keel. It's near the > > waterline and close to center of the boat. The draw back is that > > it's close to the steel beam. After completing the sea trial > > calibration the compass matches my binnacle compass within three > > degrees. The only problem I had is when I set my tool box on the > > floor under the dinette table while transiting from one marina to > > another. It caused the pilot to be very sluggish. So you do need to > > be carful not to store large metal objects in that storage area. > > > > I mounted the course computer in the cabin on the stbd. side of the > > cabin steps. It covers a hole where there once was an electrical > > panel. You need to be able access this to wire it up, but once > > installation is complete, you shouldn't have to access it. > > > > I hope this helps. Good luck with your installation. > > > > George > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, DavidOwen <wilkie@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Gang, > > > > > > This is one of the reasons that I bought the Simrad the last time > > > around..... > > > > > > I don't know where to mount the course computer and fluxgate > > compass. > > > I mean I have some ideas but thought I'd ask if any of you had > > already > > > been down this road and had an problems or solutions to report. > > > > > > Where did you mount the fluxgate compass and how did it work out? > > > Where did you mount the course computer box and how did that work > > out? > > > What Cal boat are we talking about? I have a 29. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > David "sad to see my Simrad go since it still works" Owen > > > > > > > > > >