8 messages2009-06-02 02:43 UTCthrough 2009-06-04 16:41 UTC
Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
Randy Alcorn2009-06-02 02:43 UTC
Timm,
Great Video.
I was watching the other CAL, it was on it's ear. was she carying way to much sail for the winds. She looked like she was locked down and dragging all her hardware.
Randy
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote:
From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com>
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 12:21 PM
http://tinyurl. com/mwvg9u
our Swiftsure Video, racing against another Cal 40 Madrugador in the 104 mile Cape Flattery Race.
Cal Gal and Madrugador have the same rating. (129)
Respectably we took third, besting the two other Cal 40's (Madrugador & Spectre).
We were beaten by a Yamaha 36 (37 minutes) and a C&C 35 (7 minutes..)
A nice portion of the video is our Madrugador Match Race.
On the way out to the windward mark we traded @ 50 tacks in our duel up the coast against 2-3 knots of current in 25 knots of wind, trading crossings all the way up.
The long run home was a gybing duel.
Cal Gal was able to pull away and finally finish @ 20 minutes ahead...
dEmO
Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
Allen Edwards2009-06-02 03:23 UTC
I race an L-36, the boat Lapworth built previous to the Cal-40 and
similar in some ways although in no way up to the standards of a
Cal-40. I consistently come in 2nd to a very good sailor. I spend a
lot of time talking to him after to find out what he does. This last
race, we had gail force gusts forecast although it was only blowing
about 12 at the start. It didn't hit 35 that day but it did blow
hard. There are no spinnakers in our class so there is no easy way to
change sails. He started with a 155 jib and I started with a 130. He
always sails with the 155. He just lets his main out, puts a big
bubble in it and lets is flog gently. It isn't pretty but he sure out
points me. He also puts 6 on the rail with their feet over the side.
I also put a bubble in my main although I don't let it flog too much.
We both have two full batons which helps a great deal.
At one point in the last race I had the main trimmer sheet the main in
like any sailing book would tell you to do and we just started going
sideways. Letting the main out improved out pointing considerably.
Like my fast friend says, it is't pretty but it works.
Just thought I would share this with you all in case you want to try
something completely different.
PS. I am trying to figure out why he out points me and I think I have
identified several things that I need to fix.
Allen
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> Timm,
>
> Great Video.
>
> I was watching the other CAL, it was on it's ear. was she carying way to
> much sail for the winds. She looked like she was locked down and dragging
> all her hardware.
>
> Randy
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com>
> wrote:
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> From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com>
> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 12:21 PM
>
> http://tinyurl. com/mwvg9u
>
> our Swiftsure Video, racing against another Cal 40 Madrugador in the 104
> mile Cape Flattery Race.
>
> Cal Gal and Madrugador have the same rating. (129)
>
> Respectably we took third, besting the two other Cal 40's (Madrugador &
> Spectre).
>
> We were beaten by a Yamaha 36 (37 minutes) and a C&C 35 (7 minutes..)
>
> A nice portion of the video is our Madrugador Match Race.
>
> On the way out to the windward mark we traded @ 50 tacks in our duel up the
> coast against 2-3 knots of current in 25 knots of wind, trading crossings
> all the way up.
>
> The long run home was a gybing duel.
>
> Cal Gal was able to pull away and finally finish @ 20 minutes ahead...
>
> dEmO
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
Chuck Lennox2009-06-02 04:47 UTC
Timm
Great video, makes me want to put down the computer and go sailing.
I think I will.
Thanks Chuck
Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
Tom Miller2009-06-04 03:29 UTC
That was a fun video dEmO!
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net> wrote:
> From: Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:16 AM
> I looked at another of the videos
> from the Swiftsure and there is a
> boat that looks like one of Huey Long's Ondines there. I
> thought he
> donated those all to the Brazilian Navy.
>
> MIke Kennedy
> COnquest Cal 40 # 96
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:21 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com>
> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/mwvg9u
> >
> > our Swiftsure Video, racing against another Cal 40
> Madrugador in the
> > 104 mile Cape Flattery Race.
> >
> > Cal Gal and Madrugador have the same rating. (129)
> >
> > Respectably we took third, besting the two other Cal
> 40's
> > (Madrugador & Spectre).
> >
> > We were beaten by a Yamaha 36 (37 minutes) and a
> C&C 35 (7 minutes..)
> >
> > A nice portion of the video is our Madrugador Match
> Race.
> >
> > On the way out to the windward mark we traded @ 50
> tacks in our duel
> > up the coast against 2-3 knots of current in 25 knots
> of wind,
> > trading crossings all the way up.
> >
> > The long run home was a gybing duel.
> >
> > Cal Gal was able to pull away and finally finish @ 20
> minutes ahead...
> >
> > dEmO
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> mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
ti… [at] ch2m.com2009-06-04 03:42 UTC
you should have been there.. !
the other 40 took a flyer to the Washington Coast and rounded an hour before us, the faster boats in our fleet went to the Canadian shore...
I should have covered the 40, but stayed in the middle looking for current push out.
Cal Gal was looking for an overall first... we ended up catching the 40 on the downwind leg and put another 20 minutes on them by the time we got to the finish.
We were very light on that race. I think that made the downwind difference.
dEmO
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:45 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
That was a fun video dEmO!
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net<mailto:mtkennedy1%40cox.net>> wrote:
> From: Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net<mailto:mtkennedy1%40cox.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:16 AM
> I looked at another of the videos
> from the Swiftsure and there is a
> boat that looks like one of Huey Long's Ondines there. I
> thought he
> donated those all to the Brazilian Navy.
>
> MIke Kennedy
> COnquest Cal 40 # 96
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:21 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com<mailto:timmothy.lessley%40ch2m.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/mwvg9u
> >
> > our Swiftsure Video, racing against another Cal 40
> Madrugador in the
> > 104 mile Cape Flattery Race.
> >
> > Cal Gal and Madrugador have the same rating. (129)
> >
> > Respectably we took third, besting the two other Cal
> 40's
> > (Madrugador & Spectre).
> >
> > We were beaten by a Yamaha 36 (37 minutes) and a
> C&C 35 (7 minutes..)
> >
> > A nice portion of the video is our Madrugador Match
> Race.
> >
> > On the way out to the windward mark we traded @ 50
> tacks in our duel
> > up the coast against 2-3 knots of current in 25 knots
> of wind,
> > trading crossings all the way up.
> >
> > The long run home was a gybing duel.
> >
> > Cal Gal was able to pull away and finally finish @ 20
> minutes ahead...
> >
> > dEmO
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
Harleigh Ewell2009-06-04 03:44 UTC
Test reply.
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Miller
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:30 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
That was a fun video dEmO!
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Michael Kennedy <mtkennedy1@cox.
<mailto:mtkennedy1%40cox.net> net> wrote:
> From: Michael Kennedy <mtkennedy1@cox. <mailto:mtkennedy1%40cox.net> net>
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:16 AM
> I looked at another of the videos
> from the Swiftsure and there is a
> boat that looks like one of Huey Long's Ondines there. I
> thought he
> donated those all to the Brazilian Navy.
>
> MIke Kennedy
> COnquest Cal 40 # 96
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:21 AM, <timmothy.lessley@
<mailto:timmothy.lessley%40ch2m.com> ch2m.com>
> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl. <http://tinyurl.com/mwvg9u> com/mwvg9u
> >
> > our Swiftsure Video, racing against another Cal 40
> Madrugador in the
> > 104 mile Cape Flattery Race.
> >
> > Cal Gal and Madrugador have the same rating. (129)
> >
> > Respectably we took third, besting the two other Cal
> 40's
> > (Madrugador & Spectre).
> >
> > We were beaten by a Yamaha 36 (37 minutes) and a
> C&C 35 (7 minutes..)
> >
> > A nice portion of the video is our Madrugador Match
> Race.
> >
> > On the way out to the windward mark we traded @ 50
> tacks in our duel
> > up the coast against 2-3 knots of current in 25 knots
> of wind,
> > trading crossings all the way up.
> >
> > The long run home was a gybing duel.
> >
> > Cal Gal was able to pull away and finally finish @ 20
> minutes ahead...
> >
> > dEmO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
r good2009-06-04 16:35 UTC
enjoy the video!
seems hard to believe that your competetion, sailing on their ear a lot with a full main bubbling would b e faster that way than with a single reef in the main and standing more upright.
Reggie
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: tm… [at] yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:29:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
That was a fun video dEmO!
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net> wrote:
> From: Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:16 AM
> I looked at another of the videos
> from the Swiftsure and there is a
> boat that looks like one of Huey Long's Ondines there. I
> thought he
> donated those all to the Brazilian Navy.
>
> MIke Kennedy
> COnquest Cal 40 # 96
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:21 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/mwvg9u
> >
> > our Swiftsure Video, racing against another Cal 40
> Madrugador in the
> > 104 mile Cape Flattery Race.
> >
> > Cal Gal and Madrugador have the same rating. (129)
> >
> > Respectably we took third, besting the two other Cal
> 40's
> > (Madrugador & Spectre).
> >
> > We were beaten by a Yamaha 36 (37 minutes) and a
> C&C 35 (7 minutes..)
> >
> > A nice portion of the video is our Madrugador Match
> Race.
> >
> > On the way out to the windward mark we traded @ 50
> tacks in our duel
> > up the coast against 2-3 knots of current in 25 knots
> of wind,
> > trading crossings all the way up.
> >
> > The long run home was a gybing duel.
> >
> > Cal Gal was able to pull away and finally finish @ 20
> minutes ahead...
> >
> > dEmO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
ti… [at] ch2m.com2009-06-04 16:41 UTC
I believe at that point we did have a single reef and our #3 up.
THe wind was varying between 2 knots and 28 knots, I know we did 5 headsail changes:
Inside hoist
Tack
inside peal
We were better at, and did more sail changes than the other 40, who had lost a halyard in an early headsail change.
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:35 AM
To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
enjoy the video!
seems hard to believe that your competetion, sailing on their ear a lot with a full main bubbling would b e faster that way than with a single reef in the main and standing more upright.
Reggie
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: tm… [at] yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:29:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
That was a fun video dEmO!
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net<mailto:mt… [at] cox.net>> wrote:
> From: Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net<mailto:mt… [at] cox.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Swiftsure Video - Cal 40 Duel
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:16 AM
> I looked at another of the videos
> from the Swiftsure and there is a
> boat that looks like one of Huey Long's Ondines there. I
> thought he
> donated those all to the Brazilian Navy.
>
> MIke Kennedy
> COnquest Cal 40 # 96
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:21 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com<mailto:ti… [at] ch2m.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/mwvg9u
> >
> > our Swiftsure Video, racing against another Cal 40
> Madrugador in the
> > 104 mile Cape Flattery Race.
> >
> > Cal Gal and Madrugador have the same rating. (129)
> >
> > Respectably we took third, besting the two other Cal
> 40's
> > (Madrugador & Spectre).
> >
> > We were beaten by a Yamaha 36 (37 minutes) and a
> C&C 35 (7 minutes..)
> >
> > A nice portion of the video is our Madrugador Match
> Race.
> >
> > On the way out to the windward mark we traded @ 50
> tacks in our duel
> > up the coast against 2-3 knots of current in 25 knots
> of wind,
> > trading crossings all the way up.
> >
> > The long run home was a gybing duel.
> >
> > Cal Gal was able to pull away and finally finish @ 20
> minutes ahead...
> >
> > dEmO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
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