Hull ID on CAL 28-1 (previous reply lost by YAHOO)

Boats built prior to 01NOV 1972 do not have a factory issued HIN. The CALs built prior to that date (1972 and earlier models) will have a HULL # that is marked on the INSIDE of the transom near the starboard side. This will be marked in black ink on a small label that is covered by a thin layer of glass cloth. The Hull# is also often marked on small components like the drawers in the galley. Since 1989 many states have required HINs on ALL boats and if the boat was built prior to the 01NOV1973 date when the USCG required the HIN, the state will usually assign an HIN to the boat. These State-issued HINs will start with the state registration abbreviation followed by a "Z" and then have 9 more digits. This HIN may or may not indicate the original model year of the boat depending on the State. These state-issued HINs are supposed to be marked on the hull by the owner just as the manufacturer's HIN, that is on the transom within 2" of the top and near the starboard edge, or on the starboard side within 2" of the rubrail, near the stern. But anyway, you will not find a CAL Hull I.D. Number on a boat built prior to the 1973 model year and your CAL 28-1 was out of production long before that requirement. So you can give up looking for a "CAB" number, however..you should find out whether your boat has a state-issued HIN (it should be on the Bill-of-sale and/or Title) and be sure that it is permanently marked in the correct spot. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II (XDY10201M79E-D) and Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:25:22 -0000 "cal_28vi" <ca… [at] yahoo.com> writes: Hi all, Just joined and wanted to share some pics -- I have a blogspot here if you want to check it out on the tidal grid... My question is whether I should keep looking for a hull I.D. number -- I can't find one, and maybe it doesn't have one. I have not seen another boat like this with a hole in the transom rather than the bottom of the lazarette for an outboard. Mine has a large rectangular hole, suitably reinforced, for the outboard to hang out the back of the boat. In my limited research, I have discovered that some of the Cals were build in Vancouver, Canada for a short time by a company which eventually build the "Crown" make. Maybe this is a modification they made? Anyway, I will run the boat like this for a while, but my gut says to close up the giant hole in the transom and put the outboard on a bracket. Cheers, Todd Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8tS7Qy3frck36Y0pp6ffwcJBhZ27NTkV061fpawpqPWIuXCCqs/

Here is a survey photo of my Cal 28 before I bought her showing the hull number: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/cal28photos/surveyphoto2.jpg On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Rodney G Johnson <rj… [at] juno.com>wrote: > > > Boats built prior to 01NOV 1972 do not have a factory issued HIN. The > CALs built prior to that date (1972 and earlier models) will have a HULL # > that is marked on the INSIDE of the transom near the starboard side. This > will be marked in black ink on a small label that is covered by a thin layer > of glass cloth. The Hull# is also often marked on small components like the > drawers in the galley. > > Since 1989 many states have required HINs on ALL boats and if the boat was > built prior to the 01NOV1973 date when the USCG required the HIN, the state > will usually assign an HIN to the boat. These State-issued HINs will start > with the state registration abbreviation followed by a "Z" and then have 9 > more digits. This HIN may or may not indicate the original model year of the > boat depending on the State. These state-issued HINs are supposed to be > marked on the hull by the owner just as the manufacturer's HIN, that is on > the transom within 2" of the top and near the starboard edge, or on the > starboard side within 2" of the rubrail, near the stern. > > But anyway, you will not find a CAL Hull I.D. Number on a boat built prior > to the 1973 model year and your CAL 28-1 was out of production long before > that requirement. So you can give up looking for a "CAB" number, > however..you should find out whether your boat has a state-issued HIN (it > should be on the Bill-of-sale and/or Title) and be sure that it is > permanently marked in the correct spot. > > Rod Johnson, > "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > (XDY10201M79E-D) > and Former co-owner of "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 #285 > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:25:22 -0000 "cal_28vi" <ca… [at] yahoo.com> writes: > > Hi all, > > Just joined and wanted to share some pics -- I have a blogspot here<http://cal28vi.blogspot.com/> if > you want to check it out on the tidal grid... > > My question is whether I should keep looking for a hull I.D. number -- I > can't find one, and maybe it doesn't have one. > > I have not seen another boat like this with a hole in the transom rather > than the bottom of the lazarette for an outboard. Mine has a large > rectangular hole, suitably reinforced, for the outboard to hang out the back > of the boat. > > In my limited research, I have discovered that some of the Cals were build > in Vancouver, Canada for a short time by a company which eventually build > the "Crown" make. Maybe this is a modification they made? > > Anyway, I will run the boat like this for a while, but my gut says to close > up the giant hole in the transom and put the outboard on a bracket. > > Cheers, > > Todd > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get your dream car or truck. Click here.<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2142/fc/BLSrjpTLa8tS7Qy3frck36Y0pp6ffwcJBhZ27NTkV061fpawpqPWIuXCCqs/> > > -- Robert Bruce Stirling, II, Esq. 602.254.6638 602.460.5631 [Cell] br… [at] stirlinglaw.com http://www.stirlinglaw.com/lawyers This message is protected by attorney/client privilege. This message is intended only or the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee, or the agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephone. If you believe it was sent to you in error, do not read it. Please reply to the sender that you received the message in error, then delete it.