Mainsheet systems

I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole mounted swivel block and cam cleat. Allen

Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and sheet are available to the driver. We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to weather. I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks free for running. The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead forward. [cid:485042016@23072009-0E85] [cid:485042016@23072009-0E8C] [cid:485042016@23072009-0E93] From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole mounted swivel block and cam cleat. Allen

Another shot more contemporary, with our new rig. [cid:000340417@23072009-0E9A] From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ti… [at] ch2m.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:02 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and sheet are available to the driver. We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to weather. I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks free for running. The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead forward. [cid:000340417@23072009-0EA1] [cid:000340417@23072009-0EA8] [cid:000340417@23072009-0EAF] From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole mounted swivel block and cam cleat. Allen

Great reply, thanks. I was thinking a couple of things that led me to pick 4:1 instead of 2:1. With 4:1 I will be able to do most of the trimming without the winch and as I do most of my non racing essentially single handed or with inexperienced crew, this would be useful. Second and perhaps even more important in my mind is that it cuts the new loads on the boom and at the gooseneck. It looks like you bring the lines down to the cabin top from a bail just aft of the gooseneck. I guess you have no padeye at the vang given that it is a rigid vang so that was not an option. I am still trying to figure out what the loads are and how I can minimize them. Allen On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > > > Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the > Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. > > After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature > is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and > sheet are available to the driver. > > We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps > me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to > weather. > > I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks > free for running. > > The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead > forward. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Allen Edwards > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems > > > > I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering > if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end > sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward > along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks > on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are > not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago > but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were > my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am > planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the > traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can > see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise > be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative > things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. > Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and > where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet > off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole > mounted swivel block and cam cleat. > > Allen > > >

dEmo, Love you guy'ziz heads up trim systems! I am still trying to learn how to operate my wonderful jury rigged gear, wherein I turn around, or bury my head in the cockpit, to loosen the main sheet, and run up the traveler, while my boat goes merry-lee off course! If I could even just remember to keep one corner of my eye on a frame of reference, keep the tiller from going askew by cranking down the knob on the Davis Tiller-tamer (my idea of what auto-pilot is), or shout out to my first mate "watch the heading, I'm adjusting the trim!" I could save multiple boat lengths during every race. WuWhoo, nice pic of Cal-Gurl with fancy pants sails, holy boomerang, and bodashus orange stripe on hull. (Whasahmattah, fadded aqua blue not good-nuff?--just kiddin') I didn't do the QM Race this year, I said, what's the point, the Transpac Racers didn't wait around for us complete our race and go drink with them at the bar at Shorline YC? So, don't feel bad about missing the Transpac this year. Jerry --- On Thu, 7/23/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 10:05 AM Another shot more contemporary, with our new rig. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of timmothy.lessley@ ch2m.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:02 AM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and sheet are available to the driver. We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to weather. I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks free for running. The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead forward. From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole mounted swivel block and cam cleat. Allen

Allen, I use the German Admirals Cup system too but it is led to secondaries in the cockpit in stead of back to the mast (less line). I like the set up for the same reasons Timm cited, especially less gobs of line. It works with trimmer behind helmsman our easy to reach for single handing. Mike Robinson Holiday Cal 36 # 4 Pt. Richmond To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:20:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems Great reply, thanks. I was thinking a couple of things that led me to pick 4:1 instead of 2:1. With 4:1 I will be able to do most of the trimming without the winch and as I do most of my non racing essentially single handed or with inexperienced crew, this would be useful. Second and perhaps even more important in my mind is that it cuts the new loads on the boom and at the gooseneck. It looks like you bring the lines down to the cabin top from a bail just aft of the gooseneck. I guess you have no padeye at the vang given that it is a rigid vang so that was not an option. I am still trying to figure out what the loads are and how I can minimize them. Allen On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and sheet are available to the driver. We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to weather. I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks free for running. The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead forward. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole mounted swivel block and cam cleat. Allen NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009

Mike, Thanks for the note. It looks like you use rope stoppers. Do you use them to share the winches or as the primary cleat or both? Allen On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Michael Robinson < mi… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#122a9243516eae91_TopText> from Michael Robinson > included below] > > Allen, > I use the German Admirals Cup system too but it is led to secondaries in > the cockpit in stead of back to the mast (less line). I like the set up for > the same reasons Timm cited, especially less gobs of line. It works with > trimmer behind helmsman our easy to reach for single handing. > > > *Mike Robinson* > *Holiday* > *Cal 36 # 4* > *Pt. Richmond* > ** > > > > > ------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:20:19 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems > > > > Great reply, thanks. I was thinking a couple of things that led me to pick > 4:1 instead of 2:1. With 4:1 I will be able to do most of the trimming > without the winch and as I do most of my non racing essentially single > handed or with inexperienced crew, this would be useful. Second and perhaps > even more important in my mind is that it cuts the new loads on the boom and > at the gooseneck. > It looks like you bring the lines down to the cabin top from a bail just > aft of the gooseneck. I guess you have no padeye at the vang given that it > is a rigid vang so that was not an option. > > I am still trying to figure out what the loads are and how I can minimize > them. > > Allen > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > > > Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the > Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. > > After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature > is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and > sheet are available to the driver. > > We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps > me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to > weather. > > I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks > free for running. > > The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead > forward. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Allen Edwards > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems > > I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering > if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end > sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward > along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks > on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are > not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago > but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were > my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am > planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the > traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can > see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise > be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative > things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. > Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and > where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet > off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole > mounted swivel block and cam cleat. > > Allen > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here.<http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009> > > >

Hi Allen, I use them for both. Makes the set up very easy to use. BTW the vent you see in the photo is removed before sailing. It was there first and I didn't want to go to the trouble of filling the hole and moving a vent. Mike To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:26:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems(Allen) Mike, Thanks for the note. It looks like you use rope stoppers. Do you use them to share the winches or as the primary cleat or both? Allen On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Michael Robinson <mi… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Michael Robinson included below] Allen, I use the German Admirals Cup system too but it is led to secondaries in the cockpit in stead of back to the mast (less line). I like the set up for the same reasons Timm cited, especially less gobs of line. It works with trimmer behind helmsman our easy to reach for single handing. Mike Robinson Holiday Cal 36 # 4 Pt. Richmond To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:20:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems Great reply, thanks. I was thinking a couple of things that led me to pick 4:1 instead of 2:1. With 4:1 I will be able to do most of the trimming without the winch and as I do most of my non racing essentially single handed or with inexperienced crew, this would be useful. Second and perhaps even more important in my mind is that it cuts the new loads on the boom and at the gooseneck. It looks like you bring the lines down to the cabin top from a bail just aft of the gooseneck. I guess you have no padeye at the vang given that it is a rigid vang so that was not an option. I am still trying to figure out what the loads are and how I can minimize them. Allen On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and sheet are available to the driver. We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to weather. I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks free for running. The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead forward. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole mounted swivel block and cam cleat. Allen NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009

I used the same system on a Hinckley Pilot 35. I kept the 4 to 1. I used Barient st winches. When I flew the kite, I put the mainsheet back on a cleat.. I really liked the double ended mainsheet as it could be trimmed from either side and mark roundings were smoother as 2 crew could get the main in much faster. I never knew the Germans used this system on their cup boats but Saudade ,Germany's entry and winner of the 1973 Ad. Cup, used a double ended sheet. Mike Farrell Cal 20 Rambler Hull 1114 --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Michael Robinson <mi… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Robinson <mi… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems(Allen) [2 Attachments] To: "Cal boats List" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 12:43 PM [Attachment(s) from Michael Robinson included below] Allen, I use the German Admirals Cup system too but it is led to secondaries in the cockpit in stead of back to the mast (less line). I like the set up for the same reasons Timm cited, especially less gobs of line. It works with trimmer behind helmsman our easy to reach for single handing. Mike Robinson Holiday Cal 36 # 4 Pt. Richmond To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:20:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems Great reply, thanks. I was thinking a couple of things that led me to pick 4:1 instead of 2:1. With 4:1 I will be able to do most of the trimming without the winch and as I do most of my non racing essentially single handed or with inexperienced crew, this would be useful. Second and perhaps even more important in my mind is that it cuts the new loads on the boom and at the gooseneck. It looks like you bring the lines down to the cabin top from a bail just aft of the gooseneck. I guess you have no padeye at the vang given that it is a rigid vang so that was not an option. I am still trying to figure out what the loads are and how I can minimize them. Allen On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: Although these pictures are @ 12 years old, California Girl uses the Admirals Cup Sheeting arrangement for the main. After 10 years of use, I would not use any other method. One nice feature is that the trimmer is forward out of the cockpit and trim for the car and sheet are available to the driver. We are simply 2:1 and use the cabin winch. The 2:1 is sufficient, and keeps me from having 120' of running rigging all over the cockpit when going to weather. I like less line, and less purchase - which keeps tangles down, and blocks free for running. The main car is adjusted using a Garhauer traveler, also with controls lead forward. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:42 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mainsheet systems I am going to change the mainsheet system on my L-36 and was wondering if anyone on the list has installed a similar system. My boom is end sheeted and I am thinking of taking both ends of the sheet forward along the boom, off the gooseneck or vang fitting, to standup blocks on the cabin top, and back to two cabin top winches I have that are not used for anything. Perhaps they were the main winches long ago but have since been replaced with a pair of Barient 22's, which were my primaries until they were replaced with some Andersen 46s. I am planning on 4:1 at the traveler. Not completely sure how to get the traveler control lines up to the cabin area. The only downside I can see it this puts a load down on the gooseneck that would not otherwise be there. I am wondering if anyone has either positive or negative things to say about this from their experiences with such a system. Also, what do people think about coming off the vang vs gooseneck and where to put the standup blocks. The old system is 5:1 with the sheet off the boom going to a horn cleat. Optionally it goes to a sole mounted swivel block and cam cleat. Allen NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. Attachment(s) from Michael Robinson 2 of 2 Photo(s) German Admiral's Cup mainsheet.JPG IMG_3035.JPG