Tri Point 2009

Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition", a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition”, off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Tri Point 2009 > > Randy Alcorn > > > > The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island > Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 > boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay > Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards > the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of > Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a > screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by > 6pm on a normal year. > > > > Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked > like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend > the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full > of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be > part of; I meant a Non Spin class. > > > > “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with > "Superstition", a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after > manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good > comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which > weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane > have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light > races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give > hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. > > > > This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. > > > > The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the > North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, > by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west > giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to > pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down > towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the > long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she > could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed > a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. > We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the > island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed > into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the > way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such > notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have > been the favorites in any given race weekend. > > > > There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up > on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to > keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would > shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and > looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. > We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and > “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, > but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We > eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no > one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the > inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the > no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we > had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we > were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker > gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then > after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed > for “Superstition”, off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” > Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must > have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We > watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, > “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and > work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the > East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of > the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s > in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil > Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we > looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We > bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, > and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the > swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many > boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was > motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee > was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a > nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After > looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving > again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we > would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles > left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers > looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, > maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift > an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way > toward us. > > > > It was taking forever. > > > > Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the > Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think > we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards > the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up > the channel towards the finish line. > > > > At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on > “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours > less, which was 84 miles. > > > > “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a > 2nd place for the Island series. > > > > Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out > with me thru the night. > > > > <http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvcBd5kQ1iPI&h=d3f65ece18aab18044759d1446e26231> > > >

Randy, congrats for sticking it out. I assume the other boats threw in the towel? I used to race Valero, that funky but fast old Islander 29, in the Channel Is to MdR race, they were always tuff, but I thought the owners had quit racing, of old age, or, do they have new owners or crew now? I can remember pulling into to MdR at half past three after being stuck with no wind just a mile short of the finish one year, with various forms of sea life coming by periodically to laugh hysterically at us as we spun around in uncontrollable circles in ever changing currents and puffs. Jerry What's the latest on the CCCCC. Do we have a firm date? Where do we ron dezz vooz? --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Cc: "Dave Paulson" <dp… [at] socal.rr.com>, "Deb" <de… [at] yahoo.com>, "Denise Bentley" <De… [at] comcast.net>, "Donna Shelley" <do… [at] cox.net>, "Joe Underwood" <ro… [at] yahoo.com>, "Mary Krafft" <cl… [at] yahoo.com>, "Patty Schulz" <ps… [at] arcvc.org>, "Paula Sharpe" <pa… [at] intelligentwt.com>, "Richard" <ri… [at] intelligentwt.com>, "Richard & Susan" <Rc… [at] aol.com>, "Sandy Baker" <di… [at] comcast.net> Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:00 PM Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition”, off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition", a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

Hi Sam, Just a bit of feedback for you with your post about the weight of a Cal 36: all upper case is considered impolite, it would have been better to start a separate topic for discussion, trim the end of the previous discussion, and lastly, a quick search using Google and "Cal 36 specifications" yielded this web address which contains the answer to your question. http://www.sailboatdata.com/VIEWRECORD.ASP?CLASS_ID=1599 Your welcome, Chris Barszcz From: Sam Burkins <sb… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:03:10 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 y

Thanks Chris; I did not mean to be impolite and thanks for the info. Sam --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chris Barszcz <we… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chris Barszcz <we… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal36 Displacement To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 9:22 AM Hi Sam, Just a bit of feedback for you with your post about the weight of a Cal 36: all upper case is considered impolite, it would have been better to start a separate topic for discussion, trim the end of the previous discussion, and lastly, a quick search using Google and "Cal 36 specifications" yielded this web address which contains the answer to your question. http://www.sailboat data.com/ VIEWRECORD. ASP?CLASS_ ID=1599 Your welcome, Chris Barszcz From: Sam Burkins <sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:03:10 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 y

Hi Sam, No problem... This list is a great resource for all things Cal. Chris B

displacement 11200 ballast 4500 Sam Burkins wrote: > > COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM > > Congrratulations Randy > I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! > Chuck > Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: > From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM > > thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. > Allen > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn < saylorran@yahoo. com > wrote: > > Tri Point 2009 > Randy Alcorn > > The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. > > Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. > > “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. > > This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. > > The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our > fleet > a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. > > There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to > try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across > the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were > back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. > > It was taking forever. > > Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. > > At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. > > “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2 nd place for the Island series. > > Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night. > >

Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 Designer: C. William Lapworth Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: ENGINE: Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4 Type: Gas HP: 30 TANKS: Water: 80 Fuel: 30 RIG DIMENSIONS: I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 E: 16.30 PY: EY: SPL: ISP: SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.)SA: 600.35 SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 BUILDERS:(past & present) More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine DESIGNER: More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth Your Ad Here To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sb… [at] yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 Designer: C. William Lapworth Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: ENGINE: Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4 Type: Gas HP: 30 TANKS: Water: 80 Fuel: 30 RIG DIMENSIONS: I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 E: 16.30 PY: EY: SPL: ISP: SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.)SA: 600.35 SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 BUILDERS:(past & present) More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine<http://www.sailboatdata.com/VIEW_BUILDER.ASP?BUILDER_ID=37> DESIGNER: More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth<http://www.sailboatdata.com/VIEW_DESIGNER.ASP?DESIGNER_ID=64> [http://www.hitsunlimited.com/cgi-bin/100topboats/100top.cgi?IDimg=1209]<http://www.hitsunlimited.com/cgi-bin/100topboats/100top.cgi?ID=1209> Your Ad Here<http://www.adbrite.com/mb/commerce/purchase_form.php?opid=1188688&afsid=1> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sb… [at] yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com<http://us.mc579.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sa… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn't make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. "Out Patient"; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. "Out Patient" weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. "Superstition" owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO's and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. "Out Patient" did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat "Rambunctious" and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as "Valero" an Islander 29 and "Sisu" a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with "Superstition" and "Valero" right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. "Valero"," Sisu" went outside, "Superstition" went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards "R Escape", and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for "Superstition" , off they went. Then it picked up "Sisu" and then" Valero", it took forever for it to get to "Out Patient", all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as "Superstition" disappeared around the Island heading for home, "Sisu" and "Valero" headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. "Sisu" and "Valero" were no where's in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing "Out Patient" and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on "Afterburner", he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. "Out Patients" perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night. <http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DvcBd5kQ1iPI&h=d3f65ece18aab18044759d1446e26231>

ditto To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 Designer: C. William Lapworth Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: ENGINE: Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4 Type: Gas HP: 30 TANKS: Water: 80 Fuel: 30 RIG DIMENSIONS: I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 E: 16.30 PY: EY: SPL: ISP: SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.)SA: 600.35 SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 BUILDERS:(past & present) More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine DESIGNER: More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth Your Ad Here To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sb… [at] yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

thanks --- On Tue, 8/25/09, r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:53 AM ditto To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com From: husar_charlie@ bah.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. Cheers Charlie From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 Designer: C. William Lapworth Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: ENGINE: Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4 Type: Gas HP: 30 TANKS: Water: 80 Fuel: 30 RIG DIMENSIONS: I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 E: 16.30 PY: EY: SPL: ISP: SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.) SA: 600.35 SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 BUILDERS:(past & present) More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine DESIGNER: More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth Your Ad Here To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com From: sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

So the weights given are for the designers calculation of what the boat could weigh.. not necessarily your boat. for Example Cal 40's are listed at 15,700# on the plan set. The Transpac weights, 2005 of the Cal 40 fleet, the last column is my calculation verses California Girl: 1 Far Far 15,395 (207) 2 Azure 15,415 (187) 3 Callisto 15,419 (183) 4 Radiant 15,435 (167) 5 California Girl 15,602 - 6 Dancing Bear 15,665 63 7 Psyche 15,912 310 8 Shaman 15,916 314 9 Spectre 16,160 558 10 Illusion 16,262 660 11 Ralphie 16,292 690 12 Willow Wind 16,313 711 13 Bubala 16,356 754 14 SeaFire 17,860 2,258 Average 16,000.143 398 . From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:53 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 ditto To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 Designer: C. William Lapworth Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: ENGINE: Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4 Type: Gas HP: 30 TANKS: Water: 80 Fuel: 30 RIG DIMENSIONS: I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 E: 16.30 PY: EY: SPL: ISP: SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.)SA: 600.35 SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 BUILDERS:(past & present) More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine<http://www.sailboatdata.com/VIEW_BUILDER.ASP?BUILDER_ID=37> DESIGNER: More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth<http://www.sailboatdata.com/VIEW_DESIGNER.ASP?DESIGNER_ID=64> [http://www.hitsunlimited.com/cgi-bin/100topboats/100top.cgi?IDimg=1209]<http://www.hitsunlimited.com/cgi-bin/100topboats/100top.cgi?ID=1209> Your Ad Here<http://www.adbrite.com/mb/commerce/purchase_form.php?opid=1188688&afsid=1> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sb… [at] yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <le… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com<http://us.mc579.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sa… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn't make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. "Out Patient"; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. "Out Patient" weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. "Superstition" owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO's and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. "Out Patient" did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat "Rambunctious" and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as "Valero" an Islander 29 and "Sisu" a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with "Superstition" and "Valero" right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. "Valero"," Sisu" went outside, "Superstition" went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards "R Escape", and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for "Superstition" , off they went. Then it picked up "Sisu" and then" Valero", it took forever for it to get to "Out Patient", all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as "Superstition" disappeared around the Island heading for home, "Sisu" and "Valero" headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. "Sisu" and "Valero" were no where's in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing "Out Patient" and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on "Afterburner", he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. "Out Patients" perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night. <http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DvcBd5kQ1iPI&h=d3f65ece18aab18044759d1446e26231>

I am trying to repower my boat and the thing of it is the engine that come out is an isuszu pisces engine, i have been told that i would be greatly under powered so i found a mercedes diesel 75hp but the guy who has it said his boat 22ft. long 3500lbs and runs 8 knots at 2600 rpm.I am way out of my element cant afford new engine and finding anything refurbed or that will work for the v-drive that i have, is becoming an impossible task any comments on how to proceed. thanks, Sam --- On Tue, 8/25/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:25 PM So the weights given are for the designers calculation of what the boat could weigh.. not necessarily your boat. for Example Cal 40's are listed at 15,700# on the plan set. The Transpac weights, 2005 of the Cal 40 fleet, the last column is my calculation verses California Girl: 1 Far Far 15,395 (207) 2 Azure 15,415 (187) 3 Callisto 15,419 (183) 4 Radiant 15,435 (167) 5 California Girl 15,602 - 6 Dancing Bear 15,665 63 7 Psyche 15,912 310 8 Shaman 15,916 314 9 Spectre 16,160 558 10 Illusion 16,262 660 11 Ralphie 16,292 690 12 Willow Wind 16,313 711 13 Bubala 16,356 754 14 SeaFire 17,860 2,258 Average 16,000.143 398 . From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:53 AM To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 ditto To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com From: husar_charlie@ bah.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. Cheers Charlie From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 Designer: C. William Lapworth Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: ENGINE: Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4 Type: Gas HP: 30 TANKS: Water: 80 Fuel: 30 RIG DIMENSIONS: I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 E: 16.30 PY: EY: SPL: ISP: SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.) SA: 600.35 SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 BUILDERS:(past & present) More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine DESIGNER: More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth Your Ad Here To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com From: sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM Congrratulations Randy I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! Chuck Second Fiddle --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. Allen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: Tri Point 2009 Randy Alcorn The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. It was taking forever. Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night.

My Lapworth 36 does just fine with the 30hp gray marine engine. 75hp sounds like way too much to me. I also run at 1200rpm to 1500rpm using a 2 blade folding prop. Goes about 5 to 6 knots but I am just leaving the harbor. It is a sailboat afterall. Allen On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Sam Burkins <sb… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I am trying to repower my boat and the thing of it is the engine that come out is an isuszu pisces engine, i have been told that i would be greatly under powered so i found a mercedes diesel 75hp but the guy who has it said his boat 22ft. long 3500lbs and runs 8 knots at 2600 rpm.I am way out of my element cant afford new engine and finding anything refurbed or that will work for the v-drive that i have, is becoming an impossible task any comments on how to proceed. > thanks, > Sam > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > > From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:25 PM > > > > So the weights given are for the designers calculation of what the boat could weigh.. not necessarily your boat. > > for Example Cal 40's are listed at 15,700# on the plan set. > > The Transpac weights, 2005 of the Cal 40 fleet, the last column is my calculation verses California Girl: > > > > 1 > > Far Far > > 15,395 > > (207) > > 2 > > Azure > > 15,415 > > (187) > > 3 > > Callisto > > 15,419 > > (183) > > 4 > > Radiant > > 15,435 > > (167) > > 5 > > California Girl > > 15,602 > > - > > 6 > > Dancing Bear > > 15,665 > > 63 > > 7 > > Psyche > > 15,912 > > 310 > > 8 > > Shaman > > 15,916 > > 314 > > 9 > > Spectre > > 16,160 > > 558 > > 10 > > Illusion > > 16,262 > > 660 > > 11 > > Ralphie > > 16,292 > > 690 > > 12 > > Willow Wind > > 16,313 > > 711 > > 13 > > Bubala > > 16,356 > > 754 > > 14 > > SeaFire > > 17,860 > > 2,258 > > Average > > 16,000.143 > > 398 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > ________________________________ > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:53 AM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > > ditto > > > ________________________________ > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > From: husar_charlie@ bah.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. > > Cheers > Charlie > ________________________________ > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop > LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 > Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 > Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 > Designer: C. William Lapworth > Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) > Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead > First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: > > ENGINE: > > Make: Universal > > Model: > > Atomic 4 > Type: Gas > > HP: > > 30 > > TANKS: > > Water: 80 > > Fuel: > > 30 > > RIG DIMENSIONS: > > I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 > E: 16.30 PY: EY: > SPL: ISP: > SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.) SA: 600.35 > SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 > > BUILDERS:(past & present) > > More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine > > DESIGNER: > > More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth > Your Ad Here > > ________________________________ > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > From: sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > > > COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM > > > Congrratulations Randy > I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! > Chuck > Second Fiddle > > --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: > > From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM > > > thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. > Allen > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > Tri Point 2009 > Randy Alcorn > > The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. > > Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. > > “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. > > This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. > > The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. > > There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. > > It was taking forever. > > Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. > > At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. > > “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. > > Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night. > > > > > > > >

I saw this too Allen, but figured the decimal got dropped and the engine is 7.5hp... Sizing an engine is a bit of a science, you must consider your local conditions. If you regularly motor in areas with large currents and bouncy seas, then more power is often better... if not for propulsion and engine life, but also for transmission life. Pleasure craft transmissions are not duty rated for full power for a long period of time. I would think that the 12,000 weight would require somewhere around 25hp for most conditions. My 7,000# Cal 9.2 has 20hp, and is adequate for service in the Pacific NW, motoring against the occasional squall and currents when negotiating the Straits of Juan de Fuca and crossing the Columbia Bar. Our Cal 40 (15,600#) has 47hp and also is adequate. Stan Honey's Cal 40 Illusion is fitted with a 27 hp Yanmar with built in V-drive. Light and racy, but probably a bit on the slim side for a real emergency... still it meets the standard of hull speed propulsion in flat water. As for Sam's dilemma, repowering on a budget.. no good answers there, maybe the cheapest is a rebuild of the original. Another limiting factor is the V-drive Sam has, it has a power rating limitation (I don't know what) a shaft direction and a gear reduction. Changing power plants may negate the use of the existing v-drive, the engine beds, connecting shaft to the v-drive, the exhaust system, engine controls, electrical system and the existing propeller. dEmO From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:03 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 My Lapworth 36 does just fine with the 30hp gray marine engine. 75hp sounds like way too much to me. I also run at 1200rpm to 1500rpm using a 2 blade folding prop. Goes about 5 to 6 knots but I am just leaving the harbor. It is a sailboat afterall. Allen On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Sam Burkins <sb… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I am trying to repower my boat and the thing of it is the engine that come out is an isuszu pisces engine, i have been told that i would be greatly under powered so i found a mercedes diesel 75hp but the guy who has it said his boat 22ft. long 3500lbs and runs 8 knots at 2600 rpm.I am way out of my element cant afford new engine and finding anything refurbed or that will work for the v-drive that i have, is becoming an impossible task any comments on how to proceed. > thanks, > Sam > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > > From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:25 PM > > > > So the weights given are for the designers calculation of what the boat could weigh.. not necessarily your boat. > > for Example Cal 40's are listed at 15,700# on the plan set. > > The Transpac weights, 2005 of the Cal 40 fleet, the last column is my calculation verses California Girl: > > > > 1 > > Far Far > > 15,395 > > (207) > > 2 > > Azure > > 15,415 > > (187) > > 3 > > Callisto > > 15,419 > > (183) > > 4 > > Radiant > > 15,435 > > (167) > > 5 > > California Girl > > 15,602 > > - > > 6 > > Dancing Bear > > 15,665 > > 63 > > 7 > > Psyche > > 15,912 > > 310 > > 8 > > Shaman > > 15,916 > > 314 > > 9 > > Spectre > > 16,160 > > 558 > > 10 > > Illusion > > 16,262 > > 660 > > 11 > > Ralphie > > 16,292 > > 690 > > 12 > > Willow Wind > > 16,313 > > 711 > > 13 > > Bubala > > 16,356 > > 754 > > 14 > > SeaFire > > 17,860 > > 2,258 > > Average > > 16,000.143 > > 398 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > ________________________________ > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] > On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:53 AM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > > ditto > > > ________________________________ > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > From: husar_charlie@ bah.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. > > Cheers > Charlie > ________________________________ > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] > On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop > LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 > Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 > Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 > Designer: C. William Lapworth > Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) > Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead > First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: > > ENGINE: > > Make: Universal > > Model: > > Atomic 4 > Type: Gas > > HP: > > 30 > > TANKS: > > Water: 80 > > Fuel: > > 30 > > RIG DIMENSIONS: > > I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 > E: 16.30 PY: EY: > SPL: ISP: > SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.) SA: 600.35 > SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 > > BUILDERS:(past & present) > > More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine > > DESIGNER: > > More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth Your Ad Here > > ________________________________ > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > From: sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > > > COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM > > > Congrratulations Randy > I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! > Chuck > Second Fiddle > > --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: > > From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM > > > thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. > Allen > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > Tri Point 2009 > Randy Alcorn > > The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. > > Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn't make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. > > "Out Patient"; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. "Out Patient" weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. "Superstition" owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. > > This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. > > The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO's and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. "Out Patient" did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat "Rambunctious" and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as "Valero" an Islander 29 and "Sisu" a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. > > There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with "Superstition" and "Valero" right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. "Valero"," Sisu" went outside, "Superstition" went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards "R Escape", and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for "Superstition" , off they went. Then it picked up "Sisu" and then" Valero", it took forever for it to get to "Out Patient", all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as "Superstition" disappeared around the Island heading for home, "Sisu" and "Valero" headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. "Sisu" and "Valero" were no where's in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing "Out Patient" and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. > > It was taking forever. > > Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. > > At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on "Afterburner", he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. > > "Out Patients" perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. > > Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

The old Perkins/Westerbeke 4-107 (rated 37 hp) does just fine. An atomic 4 could do fine and be cheap. a 4-108 would do fine. all are old technologie engines. Reggie CAL Cruising 36 "(Submit" > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:02:48 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > My Lapworth 36 does just fine with the 30hp gray marine engine. 75hp > sounds like way too much to me. I also run at 1200rpm to 1500rpm > using a 2 blade folding prop. Goes about 5 to 6 knots but I am just > leaving the harbor. It is a sailboat afterall. > > Allen > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Sam Burkins <sb… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am trying to repower my boat and the thing of it is the engine that come out is an isuszu pisces engine, i have been told that i would be greatly under powered so i found a mercedes diesel 75hp but the guy who has it said his boat 22ft. long 3500lbs and runs 8 knots at 2600 rpm.I am way out of my element cant afford new engine and finding anything refurbed or that will work for the v-drive that i have, is becoming an impossible task any comments on how to proceed. > > thanks, > > Sam > > > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > > > > From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> > > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:25 PM > > > > > > > > So the weights given are for the designers calculation of what the boat could weigh.. not necessarily your boat. > > > > for Example Cal 40's are listed at 15,700# on the plan set. > > > > The Transpac weights, 2005 of the Cal 40 fleet, the last column is my calculation verses California Girl: > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > Far Far > > > > 15,395 > > > > (207) > > > > 2 > > > > Azure > > > > 15,415 > > > > (187) > > > > 3 > > > > Callisto > > > > 15,419 > > > > (183) > > > > 4 > > > > Radiant > > > > 15,435 > > > > (167) > > > > 5 > > > > California Girl > > > > 15,602 > > > > - > > > > 6 > > > > Dancing Bear > > > > 15,665 > > > > 63 > > > > 7 > > > > Psyche > > > > 15,912 > > > > 310 > > > > 8 > > > > Shaman > > > > 15,916 > > > > 314 > > > > 9 > > > > Spectre > > > > 16,160 > > > > 558 > > > > 10 > > > > Illusion > > > > 16,262 > > > > 660 > > > > 11 > > > > Ralphie > > > > 16,292 > > > > 690 > > > > 12 > > > > Willow Wind > > > > 16,313 > > > > 711 > > > > 13 > > > > Bubala > > > > 16,356 > > > > 754 > > > > 14 > > > > SeaFire > > > > 17,860 > > > > 2,258 > > > > Average > > > > 16,000.143 > > > > 398 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of r good > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:53 AM > > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > > > > > > ditto > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > From: husar_charlie@ bah.com > > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 > > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > > > > Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. > > > > Cheers > > Charlie > > ________________________________ > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of r good > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM > > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > > Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop > > LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 > > Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 > > Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 > > Designer: C. William Lapworth > > Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) > > Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead > > First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: > > > > ENGINE: > > > > Make: Universal > > > > Model: > > > > Atomic 4 > > Type: Gas > > > > HP: > > > > 30 > > > > TANKS: > > > > Water: 80 > > > > Fuel: > > > > 30 > > > > RIG DIMENSIONS: > > > > I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 > > E: 16.30 PY: EY: > > SPL: ISP: > > SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.) SA: 600.35 > > SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 > > > > BUILDERS:(past & present) > > > > More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine > > > > DESIGNER: > > > > More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth > > Your Ad Here > > > > ________________________________ > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > From: sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com > > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > > > > > > COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 > > > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > From: Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM > > > > > > Congrratulations Randy > > I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! > > Chuck > > Second Fiddle > > > > --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: > > > > From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM > > > > > > thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. > > Allen > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > > > > Tri Point 2009 > > Randy Alcorn > > > > The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. > > > > Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn’t make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. > > > > “Out Patient”; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. “Out Patient” weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. “Superstition” owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. > > > > This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. > > > > The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO’s and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. “Out Patient” did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat “Rambunctious” and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as “Valero” an Islander 29 and “Sisu” a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. > > > > There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with “Superstition” and “Valero” right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. “Valero”,” Sisu” went outside, “Superstition” went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards “R Escape”, and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for “Superstition” , off they went. Then it picked up “Sisu” and then” Valero”, it took forever for it to get to “Out Patient”, all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as “Superstition” disappeared around the Island heading for home, “Sisu” and “Valero” headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. “Sisu” and “Valero” were no where’s in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing “Out Patient” and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. > > > > It was taking forever. > > > > Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. > > > > At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on “Afterburner”, he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. > > > > “Out Patients” perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. > > > > Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

My Volvo Md7A is rated at 13hp and I consider it underpowered here in the Northwest. With the 16-20 foot tidal changes we see in the South Sound a lot of current is created and I have to be very careful how I plan my trips.. It will normally carry us at 5+ knots at 2000 rpm. It starts right up though and is easy to maintain so I am not in the market to replace yet.......knock on wood......My 31 is 9,140 #. Bob Connell "Jollygood!", Cal 31, #59 Olympia, WA --- On Tue, 8/25/09, ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: From: ti… [at] ch2m.com <ti… [at] ch2m.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 repower To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 10:40 AM I saw this too Allen, but figured the decimal got dropped and the engine is 7.5hp... Sizing an engine is a bit of a science, you must consider your local conditions. If you regularly motor in areas with large currents and bouncy seas, then more power is often better... if not for propulsion and engine life, but also for transmission life. Pleasure craft transmissions are not duty rated for full power for a long period of time. I would think that the 12,000 weight would require somewhere around 25hp for most conditions. My 7,000# Cal 9.2 has 20hp, and is adequate for service in the Pacific NW, motoring against the occasional squall and currents when negotiating the Straits of Juan de Fuca and crossing the Columbia Bar. Our Cal 40 (15,600#) has 47hp and also is adequate. Stan Honey's Cal 40 Illusion is fitted with a 27 hp Yanmar with built in V-drive. Light and racy, but probably a bit on the slim side for a real emergency... still it meets the standard of hull speed propulsion in flat water. As for Sam's dilemma, repowering on a budget.. no good answers there, maybe the cheapest is a rebuild of the original. Another limiting factor is the V-drive Sam has, it has a power rating limitation (I don't know what) a shaft direction and a gear reduction. Changing power plants may negate the use of the existing v-drive, the engine beds, connecting shaft to the v-drive, the exhaust system, engine controls, electrical system and the existing propeller. dEmO From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:03 AM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 My Lapworth 36 does just fine with the 30hp gray marine engine. 75hp sounds like way too much to me. I also run at 1200rpm to 1500rpm using a 2 blade folding prop. Goes about 5 to 6 knots but I am just leaving the harbor. It is a sailboat afterall. Allen On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Sam Burkins <sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I am trying to repower my boat and the thing of it is the engine that come out is an isuszu pisces engine, i have been told that i would be greatly under powered so i found a mercedes diesel 75hp but the guy who has it said his boat 22ft. long 3500lbs and runs 8 knots at 2600 rpm.I am way out of my element cant afford new engine and finding anything refurbed or that will work for the v-drive that i have, is becoming an impossible task any comments on how to proceed. > thanks, > Sam > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, timmothy.lessley@ ch2m.com <timmothy.lessley@ ch2m.com> wrote: > > From: timmothy.lessley@ ch2m.com <timmothy.lessley@ ch2m.com> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:25 PM > > > > So the weights given are for the designers calculation of what the boat could weigh.. not necessarily your boat. > > for Example Cal 40's are listed at 15,700# on the plan set. > > The Transpac weights, 2005 of the Cal 40 fleet, the last column is my calculation verses California Girl: > > > > 1 > > Far Far > > 15,395 > > (207) > > 2 > > Azure > > 15,415 > > (187) > > 3 > > Callisto > > 15,419 > > (183) > > 4 > > Radiant > > 15,435 > > (167) > > 5 > > California Girl > > 15,602 > > - > > 6 > > Dancing Bear > > 15,665 > > 63 > > 7 > > Psyche > > 15,912 > > 310 > > 8 > > Shaman > > 15,916 > > 314 > > 9 > > Spectre > > 16,160 > > 558 > > 10 > > Illusion > > 16,262 > > 660 > > 11 > > Ralphie > > 16,292 > > 690 > > 12 > > Willow Wind > > 16,313 > > 711 > > 13 > > Bubala > > 16,356 > > 754 > > 14 > > SeaFire > > 17,860 > > 2,258 > > Average > > 16,000.143 > > 398 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] > On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:53 AM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > > ditto > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > From: husar_charlie@ bah.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:45 -0400 > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > > Reg, I have the CC36 at 12,000 lb displacement. Vanilla 36 at 11,200. > > Cheers > Charlie > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] > On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:18 AM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:CAL 36 > > Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop > LOA: 35.50 LWL: 27.00 Beam: 10.33 > Draft (max.) 5.70 Draft (min.) Listed SA: 600 > Displacement: 11200 Ballast: 4500 > Designer: C. William Lapworth > Builder: Jensen Marine (USA) > Hull: FG Bal. type: Lead > First Built: 1968 Last Built: Number Built: > > ENGINE: > > Make: Universal > > Model: > > Atomic 4 > Type: Gas > > HP: > > 30 > > TANKS: > > Water: 80 > > Fuel: > > 30 > > RIG DIMENSIONS: > > I: 42.00 J: 14.50 P: 36.30 > E: 16.30 PY: EY: > SPL: ISP: > SA(Fore.): 304.50 SA(Main): 295.85 Total(calc.) SA: 600.35 > SA/Disp: 19.25 Est. Forestay Len.: 44.43 > > BUILDERS:(past & present) > > More about & boats built by: Cal Boats/Jensen Marine > > DESIGNER: > > More about & boats designed by: C. William Lapworth Your Ad Here > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > From: sbaccuratedocs@ yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:03:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > > > COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE WEIGHT OF MY CAL 36 > > --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Chuck Lennox <lennoxchuck@ yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:49 AM > > > Congrratulations Randy > I had planned to race the Tri point this year but other duties came up. After reading your story, I'm glad we missed it! > Chuck > Second Fiddle > > --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> wrote: > > From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Tri Point 2009 > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:39 PM > > > thanks for sharing all this, very interesting. I enjoyed reading it. Congratulations on your 2nd and for hanging in there. Hope you had a lot of empty beer cans on board when the race was over. > Allen > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > Tri Point 2009 > Randy Alcorn > > The Tri Point is the third race in Pier Point Bay Yacht Clubs Island Series; it is a 34 mile race around Anacapa. This year it drew a fleet of 40 boats. It starts at a mark a couple of miles off shore of the Mandalay Electrical facility, you start out on a beam reach and work your way towards the oil platform Gina, which then you harden up and head for the east end of Anacapa Island, you head up the back side and round the west end for a screaming run to Ventura harbor. Races that normally can get you home by 6pm on a normal year. > > Sail flow predicted light winds and if you studied the charts, it looked like if you didn't make the marks by certain times, you were going to spend the night on the open Santa Barbra Channel, which can be fogged in and full of heavy shipping traffic. Not something the slow boat fleet wants to be part of; I meant a Non Spin class. > > "Out Patient"; a CAL 2-29 went into the last race tied for third with "Superstition" , a Capri 25. "Out Patient" weighs in around 8500 lbs after manufacture, 40 years later of sitting in the water and all the good comforts of a cruising/race boat, she was competing against a Capri 25 which weighs in around 2500 lbs, maybe. "Superstition" owned by Bill and Diane have been a great couple to race against, it has come down to, the light races are theirs and the heavier air races mine. We shake hands and give hugs and say what a wonderful day it was to be on the water. > > This year we were challenged with air that would be 10 knots and less. > > The start looked like it was going to be a dead run, with wind out of the North to Gina. Spin A, B and Non Spin C took off on a dead run towards Gina, by the time the gun went off for our class, the wind clocked to the west giving us a beam reach and finally a SW beat to weather. We were able to pass boats that were trying to keep their AYSO's and watched them fall down towards the beach, we made the mark ahead of our fleet. We could see the long line of boats heading for Anacapa. "Out Patient" did everything she could to stay ahead of its class. As we got closer to the islands we passed a few boats and it looked like the B and C fleet was starting to get closer. We caught the boat "Rambunctious" and watched witch way she round the island; unfortunately, we stopped just short of Arch Rock. We all sailed into the same hole, it was a wait and see game of who was going to find the way out.. It also gave the rest of our fleet a chance to catch up, such notables as "Valero" an Islander 29 and "Sisu" a Catalina 27, which have been the favorites in any given race weekend. > > There were boats standing up on the outside, there were boats standing up on the inside, we tried for the middle hoping we could point high enough to keep going, the wind would blow and we would move along then the wind would shut off, my GPS track looked like a kid with a crayon drawing on a wall and looking at you for approval. We were moving out and in, but not progressing. We finally moved in and headed up the island, with "Superstition" and "Valero" right behind us. At one time I thought Valero was going to pass us, but we were able to get our heads back in the game and take off. We eventually got to a point we saw the boats sitting in various places and no one was moving. "Valero"," Sisu" went outside, "Superstition" went on the inside and we headed for the middle again hoping we could power through the no air zone. No such luck. We screeched to a halt. We sat there so long we had to try a wind seeker which I used my tall boy hoping that would work, we were drifting down with the current towards "R Escape", and the wind seeker gave us enough drive to pull away from them to keep from hitting them. Then after 30 minutes we saw a wind line, it wrapped around the island and headed for "Superstition" , off they went. Then it picked up "Sisu" and then" Valero", it took forever for it to get to "Out Patient", all the boats must have had 20 minutes head start and we were no more than 4-5 boats apart. We watched as "Superstition" disappeared around the Island heading for home, "Sisu" and "Valero" headed across the gap, we choose to take a chance and work our way to the end of the island. As we headed closer and closer to the East end, the wind got lighter and lighter, we made it out of the grip of the island and we were off towards home. "Sisu" and "Valero" were no where's in sight, we made it across the shipping lanes, then somewhere around oil Platform Gale the wind lighten, then it stopped, just after sunset, we looked back and still no boats. The wind completely died just after dark. We bobbed and flopped back and forth for a while, we kept moving about a knot, and we did everything possible to keep the sails from getting beat in the swell. Somewhere around 10 pm the finish line wanted to know how many boats quit and the RC said there were still 10 boats racing. That was motivating to know we were still in the hunt. Around 1130 the race committee was hailing "Out Patient" and asking us for our ETA. We had just caught a nice breeze and started to move again, our ETA looked like 0100. After looking at an ETA that was for noon the next day we were glad to be moving again. The Race Committee decided it was time for them to secure and we would mark our own time. Just after that the wind shut off again, 8 miles left. We were back to the 0.7, 0.5 and 1.1 stuff. We watched the streamers looking for an increase in the wind, they just hung with not even a lift, maybe the current was pushing us along and we would watch the streamer lift an inch or two. We could see the wind line in front of us working its way toward us. > > It was taking forever. > > Finally we got another wind line, it took us to the beach, just after the Whistle buoy and before the entrance it shuts off again, this time I think we were drifting so fast we were creating wind and it kept us moving towards the harbor entrance. We made it inside the entrance, and we were moving up the channel towards the finish line. > > At 01:51:03 we finished. 14 hours for a 34 mile course. Or as Bill said on "Afterburner" , he sailed the Santa Barbra to King Harbor Race in 3 hours less, which was 84 miles. > > "Out Patients" perseverance finished the race in 2nd place, winning also a 2nd place for the Island series. > > Thanks PBYC and thanks to my son Brian and my friend Doug who stuck it out with me thru the night. > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Well there is always electric propulsion... I know of several CAL 34's and a 40 with electric drives. I've found with the Electric Yacht 6HP system (6HP at the prop) combined with a 16 inch prop (CDI Extendo) works just fine. Not for everyone of course but a now tried and true option. Bob So It Goes (cal34) http://boatbits.blogspot.com/ http://fishingundersail.blogspot.com/ http://islandgourmand.blogspot.com/

Hi Folks, I'm considering elec propulsion for Footloose, my Cal 2-34 and looking at what Bob has done with So It Goes. As part of research I signed up for the Electric Boats list here at Yahoo and there was just a posting on a Serendipity 43 with a 4.7KW Mars Electric Motor. Here's the link to the project mentioned in the post and the Yahoo group. http://www.propulsionmarine.com/vesper.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electricboats/ Kirk Footloose (Cal 34) loosemoosefilmworks wrote: > > > Well there is always electric propulsion... I know of several CAL 34's > and a 40 with electric drives. > > I've found with the Electric Yacht 6HP system (6HP at the prop) combined > with a 16 inch prop (CDI Extendo) works just fine. > > Not for everyone of course but a now tried and true option. > > Bob > So It Goes (cal34) > > http://boatbits.blogspot.com/ <http://boatbits.blogspot.com/> > http://fishingundersail.blogspot.com/ > <http://fishingundersail.blogspot.com/> > http://islandgourmand.blogspot.com/ <http://islandgourmand.blogspot.com/> > >