Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers

Wayne, I had to destroy my sleeve when I switched out. If you have time and patience anti-bond works but it tales a lot of time and you have to keep scoring the sealant which wont be that easy with a thru Hull. Paul Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: >Folks, > >I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a non-destructive solution if one exists. > >Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let me know. > >Regards, >Wayne Gillikin >"Elusive" >1983 Cal 39 Mk3 > > > >

Wayne are you installing tack tick? When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. Paul Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: >Folks, > >I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a non-destructive solution if one exists. > >Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let me know. > >Regards, >Wayne Gillikin >"Elusive" >1983 Cal 39 Mk3 > > > >

Paul, You bet your life I'm installing Tacktick! Wouldn't use anything else. The TackTick systems use Airmar depth/speed transducers. I am replacing Signet Marine knot log and depth sounder, and Datamarine wind indicator. I didn't try the new transducers in the old sleeves. My concern with using the old sleeves, if that is what you were suggesting, is that everything might appear to fit but I would find that I had leaks only after the boat was in the water. I just want to get the old ones out and the new ones in without having to cut yet another hole in the hull. The reason I am trying to preserve the sleeve is so someone else might be able to use the systems. They are not dead I just want to move into the 21st century. Regards, Wayne From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 1:20:11 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers Wayne are you installing tack tick? When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. Paul Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com> wrote: >Folks, > >I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a non-destructive solution if one exists. > >Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let me know. > >Regards, >Wayne Gillikin >"Elusive" >1983 Cal 39 Mk3 > > > >

Wayne's save yourself the aggravation and don't worry about saving the sleeve. If anyone wants your old units that are likely replacing not installing as new equipment. What you will get for your old stuff wont pay for your even if you work for beer only. Paul Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: >Paul, > >You bet your life I'm installing Tacktick! Wouldn't use anything else. > >The TackTick systems use Airmar depth/speed transducers. I am replacing Signet Marine knot log and depth sounder, and Datamarine wind indicator. I didn't try the new transducers in the old sleeves. My concern with using the old sleeves, if that is what you were suggesting, is that everything might appear to fit but I would find that I had leaks only after the boat was in the water. I just want to get the old ones out and the new ones in without having to cut yet another hole in the hull. > >The reason I am trying to preserve the sleeve is so someone else might be able to use the systems. They are not dead I just want to move into the 21st century. > >Regards, >Wayne > > > > > >________________________________ >From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 1:20:11 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers > > >Wayne are you installing tack tick? >When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. >Paul > >Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Folks, >> >>I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a non-destructive solution if one exists. >> >>Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let me know. >> >>Regards, >>Wayne Gillikin >>"Elusive" >>1983 Cal 39 Mk3 >> >> >> >> > > > > >

On second thought, heat. Almost every material I can think of will soften with heat. West System recommends heat to remove things bedded in epoxy. Make a tool that is the same OD as the sleeve with and attach it to a soldering iron. Maybe a small torch if it won't set your boat on fire. The heat will soften the glue and it should come out. On the other hand, if it is a press fit, drill it out and forget about it. Allen Disclaimer: Don't listen to me. It is your boat, not mine and I don't know what I am talking about. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com>wrote: > > > Paul, > > You bet your life I'm installing Tacktick! Wouldn't use anything else. > > The TackTick systems use Airmar depth/speed transducers. I am replacing > Signet Marine knot log and depth sounder, and Datamarine wind indicator. I > didn't try the new transducers in the old sleeves. My concern with using > the old sleeves, if that is what you were suggesting, is that everything > might appear to fit but I would find that I had leaks only after the boat > was in the water. I just want to get the old ones out and the new ones in > without having to cut yet another hole in the hull. > > The reason I am trying to preserve the sleeve is so someone else might be > able to use the systems. They are not dead I just want to move into the > 21st century. > > Regards, > Wayne > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Mon, March 8, 2010 1:20:11 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers > > > > Wayne are you installing tack tick? > When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the > sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. > Paul > > Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com <waynegillikin%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > >Folks, > > > >I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new > transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the > past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem > is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give > me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a > non-destructive solution if one exists. > > > >Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let > me know. > > > >Regards, > >Wayne Gillikin > >"Elusive" > >1983 Cal 39 Mk3 > > > > > > > > > > >

Please excuse my odd spelling and word choices. Still getting used to the hyper-sensitive touch screen and auto correct feature on my Droid phone. Drives me nuts. Paul Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: >Wayne's save yourself the aggravation and don't worry about saving the sleeve. If anyone wants your old units that are likely replacing not installing as new equipment. What you will get for your old stuff wont pay for your even if you work for beer only. >Paul > >Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Paul, >> >>You bet your life I'm installing Tacktick! Wouldn't use anything else. >> >>The TackTick systems use Airmar depth/speed transducers. I am replacing Signet Marine knot log and depth sounder, and Datamarine wind indicator. I didn't try the new transducers in the old sleeves. My concern with using the old sleeves, if that is what you were suggesting, is that everything might appear to fit but I would find that I had leaks only after the boat was in the water. I just want to get the old ones out and the new ones in without having to cut yet another hole in the hull. >> >>The reason I am trying to preserve the sleeve is so someone else might be able to use the systems. They are not dead I just want to move into the 21st century. >> >>Regards, >>Wayne >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 1:20:11 PM >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers >> >> >>Wayne are you installing tack tick? >>When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. >>Paul >> >>Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Folks, >>> >>>I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a non-destructive solution if one exists. >>> >>>Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let me know. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Wayne Gillikin >>>"Elusive" >>>1983 Cal 39 Mk3 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>

OK - so I'll just sacrifice the sleeve by applying heat. I have an electric heat gun I can use. I think I will try that and see which melts first - the sealant or the sleeve or the boat! I am so much happier with above-the-waterline projects. Thanks, Wayne From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 3:18:17 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers Please excuse my odd spelling and word choices. Still getting used to the hyper-sensitive touch screen and auto correct feature on my Droid phone. Drives me nuts. Paul Paul <pwestla@aol. com> wrote: >Wayne's save yourself the aggravation and don't worry about saving the sleeve. If anyone wants your old units that are likely replacing not installing as new equipment. What you will get for your old stuff wont pay for your even if you work for beer only. >Paul > >Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Paul, >> >>You bet your life I'm installing Tacktick! Wouldn't use anything else. >> >>The TackTick systems use Airmar depth/speed transducers. I am replacing Signet Marine knot log and depth sounder, and Datamarine wind indicator. I didn't try the new transducers in the old sleeves. My concern with using the old sleeves, if that is what you were suggesting, is that everything might appear to fit but I would find that I had leaks only after the boat was in the water. I just want to get the old ones out and the new ones in without having to cut yet another hole in the hull. >> >>The reason I am trying to preserve the sleeve is so someone else might be able to use the systems. They are not dead I just want to move into the 21st century. >> >>Regards, >>Wayne >> >> >> >> >> >>__________ _________ _________ ____ >>From: Paul <pwestla@aol. com> >>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >>Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 1:20:11 PM >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers >> >> >>Wayne are you installing tack tick? >>When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. >>Paul >> >>Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Folks, >>> >>>I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a non-destructive solution if one exists. >>> >>>Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let me know. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Wayne Gillikin >>>"Elusive" >>>1983 Cal 39 Mk3 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>

Heat will cure that too, Paul. Put the heat gun to the Droid for a while till it turns into a gooey lump of plastic and silicon. You'll be happier in the end. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:18 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers Please excuse my odd spelling and word choices. Still getting used to the hyper-sensitive touch screen and auto correct feature on my Droid phone. Drives me nuts. Paul Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: >Wayne's save yourself the aggravation and don't worry about saving the sleeve. If anyone wants your old units that are likely replacing not installing as new equipment. What you will get for your old stuff wont pay for your even if you work for beer only. >Paul > >Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Paul, >> >>You bet your life I'm installing Tacktick! Wouldn't use anything else. >> >>The TackTick systems use Airmar depth/speed transducers. I am replacing Signet Marine knot log and depth sounder, and Datamarine wind indicator. I didn't try the new transducers in the old sleeves. My concern with using the old sleeves, if that is what you were suggesting, is that everything might appear to fit but I would find that I had leaks only after the boat was in the water. I just want to get the old ones out and the new ones in without having to cut yet another hole in the hull. >> >>The reason I am trying to preserve the sleeve is so someone else might be able to use the systems. They are not dead I just want to move into the 21st century. >> >>Regards, >>Wayne >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 1:20:11 PM >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers >> >> >>Wayne are you installing tack tick? >>When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. >>Paul >> >>Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Folks, >>> >>>I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a non-destructive solution if one exists. >>> >>>Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please let me know. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Wayne Gillikin >>>"Elusive" >>>1983 Cal 39 Mk3 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Plastic sleeve? Don't you guys know boats are made of wood and metal? My daddy always told me that salt water rots metal and fresh water rots wood which is why they made boats out of wood and metal. Allen On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com>wrote: > > > Heat will cure that too, Paul. Put the heat gun to the Droid for a while > till it turns into a gooey lump of plastic and silicon. You'll be happier in > the end. > > Cheers > Charlie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:18 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers > > Please excuse my odd spelling and word choices. Still getting used to the > hyper-sensitive touch screen and auto correct feature on my Droid phone. > Drives me nuts. > Paul > > Paul <pw… [at] aol.com <pwestla%40aol.com>> wrote: > > >Wayne's save yourself the aggravation and don't worry about saving the > sleeve. If anyone wants your old units that are likely replacing not > installing as new equipment. What you will get for your old stuff wont pay > for your even if you work for beer only. > >Paul > > > >Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com <waynegillikin%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > > >>Paul, > >> > >>You bet your life I'm installing Tacktick! Wouldn't use anything else. > >> > >>The TackTick systems use Airmar depth/speed transducers. I am replacing > Signet Marine knot log and depth sounder, and Datamarine wind indicator. I > didn't try the new transducers in the old sleeves. My concern with using the > old sleeves, if that is what you were suggesting, is that everything might > appear to fit but I would find that I had leaks only after the boat was in > the water. I just want to get the old ones out and the new ones in without > having to cut yet another hole in the hull. > >> > >>The reason I am trying to preserve the sleeve is so someone else might be > able to use the systems. They are not dead I just want to move into the 21st > century. > >> > >>Regards, > >>Wayne > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > >>From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com <pwestla%40aol.com>> > >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 1:20:11 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Removing Thru-hull Transducers > >> > >> > >>Wayne are you installing tack tick? > >>When I did mine I was replacing old datamarine with raymarine and the > sleeves were the same outer diameter but different inner diameters. > >>Paul > >> > >>Wayne Gillikin <waynegillikin@ yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>>Folks, > >>> > >>>I am about to replace my Speed and Depth systems. That means new > transducers in the hull. I'm assuming that many of you have done this in the > past so I am hoping you can provide a bit of info. At this point my problem > is how to remove the old transducer's sleeve. Can anyone (or everyone) give > me some tips for getting the old transducer sleeves out. I would like a > non-destructive solution if one exists. > >>> > >>>Also, if there are known "bone-head" approaches I should avoid please > let me know. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>>Wayne Gillikin > >>>"Elusive" > >>>1983 Cal 39 Mk3 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >