Loran Antenna -Throw away?

Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital broadcast TV signals. I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and using them. Thanks. Dave 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late Coyote Pt, SF Bay

From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of imissedmyface Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:02 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital broadcast TV signals. I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and using them. Thanks. Dave 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late Coyote Pt, SF Bay ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Might be a toughie. Loran was at 100Khz. VHF is at 100Mhz. UHF starting at 300Mhz. This would be a truly broadband antenna. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of imissedmyface Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:02 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital broadcast TV signals. I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and using them. Thanks. Dave 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late Coyote Pt, SF Bay ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

I bet it would work great for AM radio. I put mine in the garage as I can't throw anything away. My kids will have to do that after I am no longer around. I don't know what the antenna was electrically but I can tell you it was not a 1/4 wave at 100khz. It might be good on some HF HAM band with minor modifications as there are bands where the physical length seems about right. Allen On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:02 AM, imissedmyface <im… [at] yahoo.com>wrote: > > > Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last > month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav > aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the > Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up > for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital > broadcast TV signals. > > I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and using > them. Thanks. > > Dave > 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late > Coyote Pt, SF Bay > > >

My father used to say that -- "my kids will have to do that after I am no longer around!" Last May I filled a 40 cubic yard dumpster 3/4 full with the flotsam and jetsam of his life as he moved into assisted living. I found bomb shelter food purchased in 1961 still in the un-opened case and DDT that was especially hard to dispose of! There were games that I played with when I was 6 years old still on the basement shelves. Do your kids a favor and clean house now! They will love you for it. The spark that brings this to mind is the CB radio and roof top magnetic antennae that was still down in the basement. Totally useless, but still neatly saved in a plastic bag to keep it handy "just in case" they ever became a fad again. I simply took my Loran out and replaced it with a GPS and glassed over the hole in the stern where the Loran antennae wire exited the boat to run up the stern rail. Loran is used up and gone -- time to get rid of it! Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 9:18:43 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? I bet it would work great for AM radio. I put mine in the garage as I can't throw anything away. My kids will have to do that after I am no longer around. I don't know what the antenna was electrically but I can tell you it was not a 1/4 wave at 100khz. It might be good on some HF HAM band with minor modifications as there are bands where the physical length seems about right. Allen On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:02 AM, imissedmyface <imissedmyface@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital broadcast TV signals. > >>I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and using them. Thanks. > >>Dave >>80 Cal 35, Runnin Late >>Coyote Pt, SF Bay > >

They will earn their inheritance. I just got to thinking what is in these boxes and opened one special one. It has bibles in it. One is from 1874 belonged to my grandfathers grandfather, a sea captain (sailing content). Allen On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>wrote: > > > My father used to say that -- "my kids will have to do that after I am no > longer around!" Last May I filled a 40 cubic yard dumpster 3/4 full with > the flotsam and jetsam of his life as he moved into assisted living. I > found bomb shelter food purchased in 1961 still in the un-opened case and > DDT that was especially hard to dispose of! There were games that I played > with when I was 6 years old still on the basement shelves. Do your kids a > favor and clean house now! They will love you for it. > > The spark that brings this to mind is the CB radio and roof top magnetic > antennae that was still down in the basement. Totally useless, but still > neatly saved in a plastic bag to keep it handy "just in case" they ever > became a fad again. I simply took my Loran out and replaced it with a GPS > and glassed over the hole in the stern where the Loran antennae wire exited > the boat to run up the stern rail. Loran is used up and gone -- time to get > rid of it! > > Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" > > "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you > didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail > away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. > Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Thu, March 11, 2010 9:18:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? > > > > I bet it would work great for AM radio. I put mine in the garage as I > can't throw anything away. My kids will have to do that after I am no > longer around. I don't know what the antenna was electrically but I can > tell you it was not a 1/4 wave at 100khz. It might be good on some HF HAM > band with minor modifications as there are bands where the physical length > seems about right. > > Allen > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:02 AM, imissedmyface <imissedmyface@ yahoo.com<im… [at] yahoo.com> > > wrote: > >> >> >> Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last >> month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav >> aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the >> Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up >> for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital >> broadcast TV signals. >> >> I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and >> using them. Thanks. >> >> Dave >> 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late >> Coyote Pt, SF Bay >> >> > >

my ex-step-grandfather once told me "save it for 7 years and you'll find a use for it". usually a use is found for it shortly after discarding it. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:56:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? (Allen) They will earn their inheritance. I just got to thinking what is in these boxes and opened one special one. It has bibles in it. One is from 1874 belonged to my grandfathers grandfather, a sea captain (sailing content). Allen On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: My father used to say that -- "my kids will have to do that after I am no longer around!" Last May I filled a 40 cubic yard dumpster 3/4 full with the flotsam and jetsam of his life as he moved into assisted living. I found bomb shelter food purchased in 1961 still in the un-opened case and DDT that was especially hard to dispose of! There were games that I played with when I was 6 years old still on the basement shelves. Do your kids a favor and clean house now! They will love you for it. The spark that brings this to mind is the CB radio and roof top magnetic antennae that was still down in the basement. Totally useless, but still neatly saved in a plastic bag to keep it handy "just in case" they ever became a fad again. I simply took my Loran out and replaced it with a GPS and glassed over the hole in the stern where the Loran antennae wire exited the boat to run up the stern rail. Loran is used up and gone -- time to get rid of it! Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 9:18:43 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? I bet it would work great for AM radio. I put mine in the garage as I can't throw anything away. My kids will have to do that after I am no longer around. I don't know what the antenna was electrically but I can tell you it was not a 1/4 wave at 100khz. It might be good on some HF HAM band with minor modifications as there are bands where the physical length seems about right. Allen On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:02 AM, imissedmyface <imissedmyface@ yahoo.com> wrote: Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital broadcast TV signals. I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and using them. Thanks. Dave 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late Coyote Pt, SF Bay

Wow! There are a lot of people who'd BUY that DDT!! As for CB's, well, as a driver I can tell you they are going away. Cell phones and satellite radio are killing them--still, useful in a backup or something to find out what's going on and such. r good wrote: > > > my ex-step-grandfather once told me "save it for 7 years and you'll > find a use for it". > > usually a use is found for it shortly after discarding it. > > Reggie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:56:08 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? (Allen) > > > They will earn their inheritance. I just got to thinking what is in > these boxes and opened one special one. It has bibles in it. One is > from 1874 belonged to my grandfathers grandfather, a sea captain > (sailing content). > > Allen > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Donald Dutton > <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net <mailto:dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>> wrote: > > > > > My father used to say that -- "my kids will have to do that after > I am no longer around!" Last May I filled a 40 cubic yard > dumpster 3/4 full with the flotsam and jetsam of his life as he > moved into assisted living. I found bomb shelter food purchased > in 1961 still in the un-opened case and DDT that was especially > hard to dispose of! There were games that I played with when I > was 6 years old still on the basement shelves. Do your kids a > favor and clean house now! They will love you for it. > > The spark that brings this to mind is the CB radio and roof top > magnetic antennae that was still down in the basement. Totally > useless, but still neatly saved in a plastic bag to keep it handy > "just in case" they ever became a fad again. I simply took my > Loran out and replaced it with a GPS and glassed over the hole in > the stern where the Loran antennae wire exited the boat to run up > the stern rail. Loran is used up and gone -- time to get rid of it! > > Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" > > "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the > things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off > the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade > winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Thu, March 11, 2010 9:18:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? > > > I bet it would work great for AM radio. I put mine in the garage > as I can't throw anything away. My kids will have to do that > after I am no longer around. I don't know what the antenna was > electrically but I can tell you it was not a 1/4 wave at 100khz. > It might be good on some HF HAM band with minor modifications as > there are bands where the physical length seems about right. > > Allen > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:02 AM, imissedmyface <imissedmyface@ > yahoo.com <mailto:im… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex > Loran until last month when they shut the system down (I can't > throw away functioning nav aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). > Anyway before I remove and toss the Loran antenna, I was > wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up for VHF > radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital > broadcast TV signals. > > I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are > shortening and using them. Thanks. > > Dave > 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late > Coyote Pt, SF Bay > > > > > > > > > -- *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·'*Marsh ----------------------------- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: <http://www.reenactor.net/> Read my Blog (bore yourself): <http://www.reenactor.net/rnet_admin/marsh/marshblog.html> -1./Infanterie-Regiment 23 <http://www.ir23.org> -Foresthill.US: <http://www.foresthill.us/> -The Dogs Place <http://www.the-dogs-place.com/> -Progress Village Community Website: <http://www.progress-village.com> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt "A fondness for power is implanted in most men, and it is natural to abuse it when acquired." -- Alexander Hamilton Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> right now! -=<www.sturmkatze.com>=-

Loran C worked at a very low freq so its Antennea has no purpose but that I recomend throw away. Scott --- On Thu, 3/11/10, r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? (Allen) To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 5:48 PM my ex-step-grandfather once told me "save it for 7 years and you'll find a use for it". usually a use is found for it shortly after discarding it. Reggie To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com From: allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:56:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? (Allen) They will earn their inheritance. I just got to thinking what is in these boxes and opened one special one. It has bibles in it. One is from 1874 belonged to my grandfathers grandfather, a sea captain (sailing content). Allen On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net> wrote: My father used to say that -- "my kids will have to do that after I am no longer around!" Last May I filled a 40 cubic yard dumpster 3/4 full with the flotsam and jetsam of his life as he moved into assisted living. I found bomb shelter food purchased in 1961 still in the un-opened case and DDT that was especially hard to dispose of! There were games that I played with when I was 6 years old still on the basement shelves. Do your kids a favor and clean house now! They will love you for it. The spark that brings this to mind is the CB radio and roof top magnetic antennae that was still down in the basement. Totally useless, but still neatly saved in a plastic bag to keep it handy "just in case" they ever became a fad again. I simply took my Loran out and replaced it with a GPS and glassed over the hole in the stern where the Loran antennae wire exited the boat to run up the stern rail. Loran is used up and gone -- time to get rid of it! Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 9:18:43 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Loran Antenna -Throw away? I bet it would work great for AM radio. I put mine in the garage as I can't throw anything away. My kids will have to do that after I am no longer around. I don't know what the antenna was electrically but I can tell you it was not a 1/4 wave at 100khz. It might be good on some HF HAM band with minor modifications as there are bands where the physical length seems about right. Allen On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:02 AM, imissedmyface <imissedmyface@ yahoo.com> wrote: Believe it or not, I was still using my 30 year old Sipex Loran until last month when they shut the system down (I can't throw away functioning nav aids. Still have sextant and RDF!). Anyway before I remove and toss the Loran antenna, I was wondering if it has any other uses such as a back up for VHF radio or could it be used as a UHF antenna for the new digital broadcast TV signals. I checked the web and it looks like some Ham folks are shortening and using them. Thanks. Dave 80 Cal 35, Runnin Late Coyote Pt, SF Bay

Thanks all! In the trash it goes..... Dave 80 Cal 35 Runnin Late SF Bay