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Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is that true? anyone know what that would translate into for a 2 blade folding? Reggie

Reggie, I talked to the prop shop guy next to the NAPA store here in Pensacola and he quoted me between $70 - $90 to re-pitch 2 inches. The price differential is between plain bronze and another bronze-like metal that he says is like banging springs. /Celtic Naut/ has a 16x16 wheel and, yes, she's very over pitched. 6kts at idle sounds great, but if your motor loads up and doesn't reach optimum rpm, that's not good. It also means I am jockeying with the gear shifter to keep her slow in docking conditions. Since you and I basically have the same motor, I bet the 16x8 is about the right size for me as well. I displace about 14,000. What is /Gypsy Gael'/s displacement? Mike r good wrote: > > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade prop. I have a > 16x10. seems I heard a good prop shop could make thatmuch of a change > to a prop. is that true? > > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2 blade folding? > > Reggie > >

i think 13000. sounds like I need to take him my prop. I have a Martec folding which I believe is also 16x10. I wonder if he can do it? I'm thinking of changing to it when I pull the existing prop. i wonder if the 16x10 two blade would be comparable to the 16x8 three blade? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: mi… [at] wahini.orgDate: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:12:22 -0500Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop Reggie,I talked to the prop shop guy next to the NAPA store here in Pensacola and he quoted me between $70 - $90 to re-pitch 2 inches. The price differential is between plain bronze and another bronze-like metal that he says is like banging springs. /Celtic Naut/ has a 16x16 wheel and, yes, she's very over pitched. 6kts at idle sounds great, but if your motor loads up and doesn't reach optimum rpm, that's not good. It also means I am jockeying with the gear shifter to keep her slow in docking conditions. Since you and I basically have the same motor, I bet the 16x8 is about the right size for me as well. I displace about 14,000. What is /Gypsy Gael'/s displacement?Miker good wrote:>> Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade prop. I have a > 16x10. seems I heard a good prop shop could make thatmuch of a change > to a prop. is that true?> > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2 blade folding?> > Reggie>>

Reggie, I'm glad you got the CC36 as your new hobby. Sure looks like it is going to keep you off the streets and out of the gentlemen's clubs. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:12 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop i think 13000. sounds like I need to take him my prop. I have a Martec folding which I believe is also 16x10. I wonder if he can do it? I'm thinking of changing to it when I pull the existing prop. i wonder if the 16x10 two blade would be comparable to the 16x8 three blade? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: mi… [at] wahini.org Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:12:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop Reggie, I talked to the prop shop guy next to the NAPA store here in Pensacola and he quoted me between $70 - $90 to re-pitch 2 inches. The price differential is between plain bronze and another bronze-like metal that he says is like banging springs. /Celtic Naut/ has a 16x16 wheel and, yes, she's very over pitched. 6kts at idle sounds great, but if your motor loads up and doesn't reach optimum rpm, that's not good. It also means I am jockeying with the gear shifter to keep her slow in docking conditions. Since you and I basically have the same motor, I bet the 16x8 is about the right size for me as well. I displace about 14,000. What is /Gypsy Gael'/s displacement? Mike r good wrote: > > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade prop. I have a > 16x10. seems I heard a good prop shop could make thatmuch of a change > to a prop. is that true? > > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2 blade folding? > > Reggie > >

ain't it the truth?! reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: hu… [at] bah.comDate: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:25:04 -0400Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop (Reg) Reggie, I'm glad you got the CC36 as your new hobby. Sure looks like it is going to keep you off the streets and out of the gentlemen's clubs. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r goodSent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:12 AMTo: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop i think 13000. sounds like I need to take him my prop. I have a Martec folding which I believe is also 16x10. I wonder if he can do it? I'm thinking of changing to it when I pull the existing prop. i wonder if the 16x10 two blade would be comparable to the 16x8 three blade? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: mi… [at] wahini.orgDate: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:12:22 -0500Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop Reggie,I talked to the prop shop guy next to the NAPA store here in Pensacola and he quoted me between $70 - $90 to re-pitch 2 inches. The price differential is between plain bronze and another bronze-like metal that he says is like banging springs. /Celtic Naut/ has a 16x16 wheel and, yes, she's very over pitched. 6kts at idle sounds great, but if your motor loads up and doesn't reach optimum rpm, that's not good. It also means I am jockeying with the gear shifter to keep her slow in docking conditions. Since you and I basically have the same motor, I bet the 16x8 is about the right size for me as well. I displace about 14,000. What is /Gypsy Gael'/s displacement?Miker good wrote:>> Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade prop. I have a > 16x10. seems I heard a good prop shop could make thatmuch of a change > to a prop. is that true?> > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2 blade folding?> > Reggie>>

Reggie, Call MarTec and ask them. They're very knowledgable and helpful, great to work with. George i think 13000. sounds like I need to take him my prop. I have a Martec folding which I believe is also 16x10. I wonder if he can do it? I'm thinking of changing to it when I pull the existing prop. i wonder if the 16x10 two blade would be comparable to the 16x8 three blade? Reggie . <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=16485695/grpspId=1705065792/msgId=11422/stime=1206508410/nc1=4430620/nc2=3848627/nc3=4507179>

Hi Reggie, I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so you are in. Do you want me to have Josh pull your prop and take it to Accu-Prop? I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot of getting accustomed to, like entering a slip you start backing down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding into head seas was tough, but usually big seas are caused by wind, so you sail. I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, our Cal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I feather it I pick up 1/2 knot. We stopped by to check out the paint job on Bravura, our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful job on fairing, filling and priming. She should get the final coats this week, so we can get her home and re-rigged for the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay April 26. It will be my first race in many years. Tom and Bobbie Vandiver Tom Vandiver --- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade > prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop > shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is > that true? > > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2 > blade folding? > > Reggie

Hi, Tom. Say Hi to Bobbi for me. What color will Bravura be? Color schemes for 25s around Annapolis are getting creative. A good sign for CAL 25 pride, I believe. Except me. Black or black. Just like Henry Ford. I think it is the right time to republish the photo of you with the 1973 CAL 25 National Championship trophy. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Vandiver Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:33 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat Hi Reggie, I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so you are in. Do you want me to have Josh pull your prop and take it to Accu-Prop? I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot of getting accustomed to, like entering a slip you start backing down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding into head seas was tough, but usually big seas are caused by wind, so you sail. I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, our Cal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I feather it I pick up 1/2 knot. We stopped by to check out the paint job on Bravura, our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful job on fairing, filling and priming. She should get the final coats this week, so we can get her home and re-rigged for the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay April 26. It will be my first race in many years. Tom and Bobbie Vandiver

Tom Vandiver wrote: > > > > We stopped by to check out the paint job on Bravura, > our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful job on > fairing, filling and priming. She should get the final > coats this week, so we can get her home > I'm curious about the price range for a hull paint job. My other boat, an old-timer and early fiberglass vessel from 1961, needs to be painted again. I got a quote from the yard's paint shop, which does good work, and it was $8,000 for a 26 foot boat. The old paint job looks a lot more attractive after an estimate like that. I've been meaning to ask the guy if he included the deck and cabin trunk, which I did not intend, or if it was really $8,000 for just the hull. If my income had gone up in the last 6 years, I'd be less parsimonious, but it hasn't. Chris Campbell

hey tom whats the pitch and diameter on ypur prop on satori gene --- Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Reggie, > > I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so you > are in. Do you want me to have Josh pull your prop > and > take it to Accu-Prop? > > I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot > of > getting accustomed to, like entering a slip you > start > backing down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding into > head seas was tough, but usually big seas are caused > by wind, so you sail. > > I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, our > Cal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I feather it I > pick up 1/2 knot. > > We stopped by to check out the paint job on Bravura, > our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful job > on > fairing, filling and priming. She should get the > final > coats this week, so we can get her home and > re-rigged > for the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay April 26. > It > will be my first race in many years. > > Tom and Bobbie Vandiver > > > > > > > Tom Vandiver > > --- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade > > prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop > > shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. > is > > that true? > > > > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2 > > blade folding? > > > > Reggie > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

I'm thinking of going to the folding prop. I wouldn't have to wory about the prop spinning any more, either. I've had a Martec folding prop on "Knot Ready" since day one and like it. I have a Martec 16x10 folding in the lazarette on the boat. What I'm thinking about is this: have the Martec folding prop checked out and then having it installed and let Accu-Prop repitch the three blade and carry it for a spare. What do you think? Should Accu-Prop check out the Martec or should it be sent back to Martec to be "refurbished"? I'm still not sure if 16x9 on a two blade fixed prop means that the Martec should be repitched from 16x10 to 16x9. Would Accu-Porp know? Could they repitch the Martec? How do I reach them? Good news update on the 25. Bet you can't wait! Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:32:54 -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat Hi Reggie,I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so youare in. Do you want me to have Josh pull your prop andtake it to Accu-Prop?I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot ofgetting accustomed to, like entering a slip you startbacking down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding intohead seas was tough, but usually big seas are causedby wind, so you sail.I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, ourCal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I feather it Ipick up 1/2 knot.We stopped by to check out the paint job on Bravura,our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful job onfairing, filling and priming. She should get the finalcoats this week, so we can get her home and re-riggedfor the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay April 26. Itwill be my first race in many years.Tom and Bobbie VandiverTom Vandiver--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade> prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop> shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is> that true?> > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2> blade folding?> > Reggie

took your advice and called them. Nice folks. the two blade folding came in an original, also referred to as Mark 1. then there was a Mark 2 and a Mark 3. They said if it was a Mark 3, going up 1" from a 16x9 fixed to a 16x10 Mark 3 would be fine. If it is a Mark 2, they are apparently more agressive in design and there should be no increase in pitch when going from fixed to folding. I guess a Mark 1 is somewhere in between the Mark 2 and Mark 3. So, now i need to find out which version is hidden in my boat! Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: ge… [at] saic.comDate: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:26:12 -0700Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop (Reggie) Reggie, Call MarTec and ask them. They're very knowledgable and helpful, great to work with. George i think 13000. sounds like I need to take him my prop. I have a Martec folding which I believe is also 16x10. I wonder if he can do it? I'm thinking of changing to it when I pull the existing prop. i wonder if the 16x10 two blade would be comparable to the 16x8 three blade? Reggie .

Martec says their folding props cannot be repitched. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: my… [at] hotmail.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:06:30 -0600Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat I'm thinking of going to the folding prop. I wouldn't have to wory about the prop spinning any more, either. I've had a Martec folding prop on "Knot Ready" since day one and like it. I have a Martec 16x10 folding in the lazarette on the boat. What I'm thinking about is this: have the Martec folding prop checked out and then having it installed and let Accu-Prop repitch the three blade and carry it for a spare. What do you think? Should Accu-Prop check out the Martec or should it be sent back to Martec to be "refurbished"? I'm still not sure if 16x9 on a two blade fixed prop means that the Martec should be repitched from 16x10 to 16x9. Would Accu-Porp know? Could they repitch the Martec? How do I reach them? Good news update on the 25. Bet you can't wait! Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:32:54 -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat Hi Reggie,I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so youare in. Do you want me to have Josh pull your prop andtake it to Accu-Prop?I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot ofgetting accustomed to, like entering a slip you startbacking down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding intohead seas was tough, but usually big seas are causedby wind, so you sail.I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, ourCal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I feather it Ipick up 1/2 knot.We stopped by to check out the paint job on Bravura,our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful job onfairing, filling and priming. She should get the finalcoats this week, so we can get her home and re-riggedfor the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay April 26. Itwill be my first race in many years.Tom and Bobbie VandiverTom Vandiver--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade> prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop> shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is> that true?> > anyone know what that would translate into for a 2> blade folding?> > Reggie

Thanks Charlie, Bobbie is perfect for an old broad! She gets her new Pontiac Solstice today, a reward for 26 years of putting up with me. She had roadsters for years, then when we starting cruising we sold them. She wanted a 1964 Jaguar XKE, but I have had enough grief in my life, MGTD & Triumph TR3A. So we now have all American cars, from our 1930 Ford to her 2008 Solstice Bravura is going to have the same color scheme she had white with a blue stripe. The blue stripe is Navy Blue the same as our other boats. She is still with the painter over in Alabama. He called me yesterday saying it was the best paint job he has ever done and he has been painting airplanes, cars and boats for years. I'll post a photo as soon as I go get her. Hmmmm, 1973 well I must have been a teenager. Tom and Bobbie Vandiver, Cal 46 & 25 on bayou Chico, FL --- "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: > Hi, Tom. Say Hi to Bobbi for me. > > What color will Bravura be? Color schemes for 25s > around Annapolis are > getting creative. A good sign for CAL 25 pride, I > believe. Except me. > Black or black. Just like Henry Ford. > > I think it is the right time to republish the photo > of you with the 1973 > CAL 25 National Championship trophy. > > Cheers > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Tom Vandiver > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:33 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat > > Hi Reggie, > > I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so you > are in. Do you want > me to have Josh pull your prop and take it to > Accu-Prop? > > I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot > of getting > accustomed to, like entering a slip you start > backing down real soon at > high RPM's. Pounding into head seas was tough, but > usually big seas are > caused by wind, so you sail. > > I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, our > Cal Cruising 46. In > light airs, when I feather it I pick up 1/2 knot. > > We stopped by to check out the paint job on Bravura, > our Cal 25 last > Friday. He has done a wonderful job on fairing, > filling and priming. She > should get the final coats this week, so we can get > her home and > re-rigged for the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay > April 26. It will be > my first race in many years. > > Tom and Bobbie Vandiver > > >

Hi Chris, This was a kumshaw job. I gave him my storm damaged Cal 20 and it's trailer, plus a bunch of parts I had salvaged from other storm boats. I provided all of the paint and supplies. I prefer Sterling paint, so my supplies are over $500, at wholesale prices. It is a very labor intensive undertaking, plus having a covered, protected area to spray and waiting for proper temperature, etc. If I had to pay full price for this paint job, I would say $5,000 - $8,000. Unfortunately a Cal 25's market value is less than that, but we LOVE our Cal 25. I am looking forward to having her back in the water and racing the Dauphin Island Race April 26. However, my biggest thrill will be seeing my granddaughters race her July 26 in the all female, Navy YC Bikini Regatta, then the following Saturday they will race her in the all female, Race for the Roses, Pensacola Beach YC. I have told them this will be the greatest birthday present I will ever receive. They are all going to here for my 70th on July 27 Grandpa Tom and Saint Bobbie Vandiver--- Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: > Tom Vandiver wrote: > > > > > > > > We stopped by to check out the paint job on > Bravura, > > our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful > job on > > fairing, filling and priming. She should get the > final > > coats this week, so we can get her home > > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious about the price range for a hull paint > job. My other boat, > an old-timer and early fiberglass vessel from 1961, > needs to be painted > again. I got a quote from the yard's paint shop, > which does good work, > and it was $8,000 for a 26 foot boat. The old paint > job looks a lot > more attractive after an estimate like that. I've > been meaning to ask > the guy if he included the deck and cabin trunk, > which I did not intend, > or if it was really $8,000 for just the hull. If my > income had gone up > in the last 6 years, I'd be less parsimonious, but > it hasn't. > > Chris Campbell >

Hi Gene, We have a 3-1 reduction and use a Luke three blade feathering prop, 22 X 22. With a clean bottom, fair seas and loaded 400 gallons of diesel fuel and 200 gallons of water, plus a six pak of Sam Adams, we cruise at 6.2 knots at 1550 RPM's on our Perkins 4-236, average 1.1 gallons an hour. Tom --- gene ulmer <ca… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > hey tom > whats the pitch and diameter on ypur prop on satori > gene > > > > > --- Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi Reggie, > > > > I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so > you > > are in. Do you want me to have Josh pull your prop > > and > > take it to Accu-Prop? > > > > I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a > lot > > of > > getting accustomed to, like entering a slip you > > start > > backing down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding > into > > head seas was tough, but usually big seas are > caused > > by wind, so you sail. > > > > I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, > our > > Cal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I feather it > I > > pick up 1/2 knot. > > > > We stopped by to check out the paint job on > Bravura, > > our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful > job > > on > > fairing, filling and priming. She should get the > > final > > coats this week, so we can get her home and > > re-rigged > > for the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay April > 26. > > It > > will be my first race in many years. > > > > Tom and Bobbie Vandiver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Vandiver > > > > --- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade > > > prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good > prop > > > shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. > > is > > > that true? > > > > > > anyone know what that would translate into for a > 2 > > > blade folding? > > > > > > Reggie > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping >

Hi Reggie, I would send the Mar Tec back to them. They are good people. As far as the proper pitch, have you checked into www.michiganwheel.com for their prop program? You send all of the info requested and they sort it out and send you a suggested size and pitch. I always carry a spare prop, prop puller and hookah when cruising. I picked up a piece of chain in Costa Rica damaging the Luke, so I pulled it out by Isla Gitana, took it into town and had it repaired. After my diving, the locals told me about the crocodiles. Tom --- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > I'm thinking of going to the folding prop. I > wouldn't have to wory about the prop spinning any > more, either. I've had a Martec folding prop on > "Knot Ready" since day one and like it. > > I have a Martec 16x10 folding in the lazarette on > the boat. What I'm thinking about is this: have > the Martec folding prop checked out and then having > it installed and let Accu-Prop repitch the three > blade and carry it for a spare. What do you think? > > Should Accu-Prop check out the Martec or should it > be sent back to Martec to be "refurbished"? > > I'm still not sure if 16x9 on a two blade fixed prop > means that the Martec should be repitched from 16x10 > to 16x9. Would Accu-Porp know? Could they repitch > the Martec? How do I reach them? > > Good news update on the 25. Bet you can't wait! > > Reggie > > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: > bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:32:54 > -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat > > > > > Hi Reggie,I have heard that 2" is the max pitch > change, so youare in. Do you want me to have Josh > pull your prop andtake it to Accu-Prop?I had a 2 > blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot ofgetting > accustomed to, like entering a slip you startbacking > down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding intohead seas > was tough, but usually big seas are causedby wind, > so you sail.I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on > Satori, ourCal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I > feather it Ipick up 1/2 knot.We stopped by to check > out the paint job on Bravura,our Cal 25 last Friday. > He has done a wonderful job onfairing, filling and > priming. She should get the finalcoats this week, so > we can get her home and re-riggedfor the Dauphin > Island Race on Mobile Bay April 26. Itwill be my > first race in many years.Tom and Bobbie VandiverTom > Vandiver--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> > > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade> > prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop> > shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is> > that true?> > anyone know what that would translate > into for a 2> blade folding?> > Reggie > > > > > >

tom i dont know if you remember me i was working around the marina in beaufort sc when you and bobbie came thru once i have the ramblin rose formerly shankara i have been playing around with props for a while the best we have had so far is a 23x26 3 blade but the drag is pretty bad may try a luke if i can find one. heard you had been under the weather hope you are better. we are in virginia on the bay now after a few years in hawaii hope you and Bobbie are well maybe see you on the gulf someday gene --- Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Gene, > > We have a 3-1 reduction and use a Luke three blade > feathering prop, 22 X 22. With a clean bottom, fair > seas and loaded 400 gallons of diesel fuel and 200 > gallons of water, plus a six pak of Sam Adams, we > cruise at 6.2 knots at 1550 RPM's on our Perkins > 4-236, average 1.1 gallons an hour. > > Tom > --- gene ulmer <ca… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > hey tom > > whats the pitch and diameter on ypur prop on > satori > > gene > > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Reggie, > > > > > > I have heard that 2" is the max pitch change, so > > you > > > are in. Do you want me to have Josh pull your > prop > > > and > > > take it to Accu-Prop? > > > > > > I had a 2 blade folding on my Col 36. It took a > > lot > > > of > > > getting accustomed to, like entering a slip you > > > start > > > backing down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding > > into > > > head seas was tough, but usually big seas are > > caused > > > by wind, so you sail. > > > > > > I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on Satori, > > our > > > Cal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I feather > it > > I > > > pick up 1/2 knot. > > > > > > We stopped by to check out the paint job on > > Bravura, > > > our Cal 25 last Friday. He has done a wonderful > > job > > > on > > > fairing, filling and priming. She should get the > > > final > > > coats this week, so we can get her home and > > > re-rigged > > > for the Dauphin Island Race on Mobile Bay April > > 26. > > > It > > > will be my first race in many years. > > > > > > Tom and Bobbie Vandiver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Vandiver > > > > > > --- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 > blade > > > > prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good > > prop > > > > shop could make thatmuch of a change to a > prop. > > > is > > > > that true? > > > > > > > > anyone know what that would translate into for > a > > 2 > > > > blade folding? > > > > > > > > Reggie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Tom Vandiver wrote: > > > If I had to pay full price for this paint job, I would > say $5,000 - $8,000. Unfortunately a Cal 25's market > value is less than that, but we LOVE our Cal 25. > Thanks for the price range, Tom. My boat, with a compromised gelcoat, probably needs lots of prep work so maybe my price estimate was in a reasonable range. And "market value" has no relation whatsoever to the boat's inherent value. No economist would ever approve the rationality of boat ownership. It's way beyond rational calculation. I've sailed the boat that needs the paint job since 1969 and have done all the maintenance. I'm now in the annual spring prep-and-varnish ritual, one of those black holes for time and effort that is rewarded on launch day when she draws oohs and aahhs. And my Cal 20, the boat I bought as just a temporary vessel, well, I fell in love, too. She's a keeper. You're lucky to have the grandkids out sailing. I've got one niece who caught the bug, out on Lake Champlain, but the others all tend toward the computer games and indoor activities. Maybe they'll grow out of that.... Chris Campbell

Isn't diving anywhaere to pull a propeller a Croc? Michigan wheel was my source for the recommendation of 16x8 3 blade or 16x9 2 blade. I remembered you mentioning them and sent them my info. Thanks. I believe the Martec is in the starboard lazarrette, in a black plastic milk crate. I would be happy to retain Josh or anyone else to collect it and send it off to Martec on my behalf. To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:29:26 -0700Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat Hi Reggie,I would send the Mar Tec back to them. They are goodpeople.As far as the proper pitch, have you checked intowww.michiganwheel.com for their prop program? You sendall of the info requested and they sort it out andsend you a suggested size and pitch.I always carry a spare prop, prop puller and hookahwhen cruising. I picked up a piece of chain in CostaRica damaging the Luke, so I pulled it out by IslaGitana, took it into town and had it repaired. Aftermy diving, the locals told me about the crocodiles.Tom--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> > I'm thinking of going to the folding prop. I> wouldn't have to wory about the prop spinning any> more, either. I've had a Martec folding prop on> "Knot Ready" since day one and like it.> > I have a Martec 16x10 folding in the lazarette on> the boat. What I'm thinking about is this: have> the Martec folding prop checked out and then having> it installed and let Accu-Prop repitch the three> blade and carry it for a spare. What do you think?> > Should Accu-Prop check out the Martec or should it> be sent back to Martec to be "refurbished"?> > I'm still not sure if 16x9 on a two blade fixed prop> means that the Martec should be repitched from 16x10> to 16x9. Would Accu-Porp know? Could they repitch> the Martec? How do I reach them?> > Good news update on the 25. Bet you can't wait!> > Reggie> > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom:> bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:32:54> -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat> > > > > Hi Reggie,I have heard that 2" is the max pitch> change, so youare in. Do you want me to have Josh> pull your prop andtake it to Accu-Prop?I had a 2> blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot ofgetting> accustomed to, like entering a slip you startbacking> down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding intohead seas> was tough, but usually big seas are causedby wind,> so you sail.I have a Luke 3 blade feathering prop on> Satori, ourCal Cruising 46. In light airs, when I> feather it Ipick up 1/2 knot.We stopped by to check> out the paint job on Bravura,our Cal 25 last Friday.> He has done a wonderful job onfairing, filling and> priming. She should get the finalcoats this week, so> we can get her home and re-riggedfor the Dauphin> Island Race on Mobile Bay April 26. Itwill be my> first race in many years.Tom and Bobbie VandiverTom> Vandiver--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> >> Michigan Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade>> prop. I have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop>> shop could make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is>> that true?> > anyone know what that would translate> into for a 2> blade folding?> > Reggie > > > > > >

Will do Monday. Tom --- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > Isn't diving anywhaere to pull a propeller a Croc? > > Michigan wheel was my source for the recommendation > of 16x8 3 blade or 16x9 2 blade. I remembered you > mentioning them and sent them my info. Thanks. > > I believe the Martec is in the starboard lazarrette, > in a black plastic milk crate. I would be happy to > retain Josh or anyone else to collect it and send it > off to Martec on my behalf. > > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: > bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:29:26 > -0700Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat > > > > > Hi Reggie,I would send the Mar Tec back to them. > They are goodpeople.As far as the proper pitch, have > you checked intowww.michiganwheel.com for their prop > program? You sendall of the info requested and they > sort it out andsend you a suggested size and pitch.I > always carry a spare prop, prop puller and > hookahwhen cruising. I picked up a piece of chain in > CostaRica damaging the Luke, so I pulled it out by > IslaGitana, took it into town and had it repaired. > Aftermy diving, the locals told me about the > crocodiles.Tom--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> > wrote:> > I'm thinking of going to the folding prop. > I> wouldn't have to wory about the prop spinning > any> more, either. I've had a Martec folding prop > on> "Knot Ready" since day one and like it.> > I > have a Martec 16x10 folding in the lazarette on> the > boat. What I'm thinking about is this: have> the > Martec folding prop checked out and then having> it > installed and let Accu-Prop repitch the three> blade > and carry it for a spare. What do you think?> > > Should Accu-Prop check out the Martec or should it> > be sent back to Martec to be "refurbished"?> > I'm > still not sure if 16x9 on a two blade fixed prop> > means that the Martec should be repitched from > 16x10> to 16x9. Would Accu-Porp know? Could they > repitch> the Martec? How do I reach them?> > Good > news update on the 25. Bet you can't wait!> > > Reggie> > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom:> > bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:32:54> > -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat> > > > > > Hi Reggie,I have heard that 2" is the max pitch> > change, so youare in. Do you want me to have Josh> > pull your prop andtake it to Accu-Prop?I had a 2> > blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot ofgetting> > accustomed to, like entering a slip you > startbacking> down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding > intohead seas> was tough, but usually big seas are > causedby wind,> so you sail.I have a Luke 3 blade > feathering prop on> Satori, ourCal Cruising 46. In > light airs, when I> feather it Ipick up 1/2 knot.We > stopped by to check> out the paint job on > Bravura,our Cal 25 last Friday.> He has done a > wonderful job onfairing, filling and> priming. She > should get the finalcoats this week, so> we can get > her home and re-riggedfor the Dauphin> Island Race > on Mobile Bay April 26. Itwill be my> first race in > many years.Tom and Bobbie VandiverTom> Vandiver--- r > good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> >> Michigan > Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade>> prop. I > have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop>> shop could > make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is>> that > true?> > anyone know what that would translate> into > for a 2> blade folding?> > Reggie > > > > > > > > > > > >

thanks. when it is collected, please see what all is stamped on it. To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:22:02 -0700Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat Will do Monday.Tom--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> > Isn't diving anywhaere to pull a propeller a Croc?> > Michigan wheel was my source for the recommendation> of 16x8 3 blade or 16x9 2 blade. I remembered you> mentioning them and sent them my info. Thanks.> > I believe the Martec is in the starboard lazarrette,> in a black plastic milk crate. I would be happy to> retain Josh or anyone else to collect it and send it> off to Martec on my behalf.> > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom:> bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:29:26> -0700Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat> > > > > Hi Reggie,I would send the Mar Tec back to them.> They are goodpeople.As far as the proper pitch, have> you checked intowww.michiganwheel.com for their prop> program? You sendall of the info requested and they> sort it out andsend you a suggested size and pitch.I> always carry a spare prop, prop puller and> hookahwhen cruising. I picked up a piece of chain in> CostaRica damaging the Luke, so I pulled it out by> IslaGitana, took it into town and had it repaired.> Aftermy diving, the locals told me about the> crocodiles.Tom--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com>> wrote:> > I'm thinking of going to the folding prop.> I> wouldn't have to wory about the prop spinning> any> more, either. I've had a Martec folding prop> on> "Knot Ready" since day one and like it.> > I> have a Martec 16x10 folding in the lazarette on> the> boat. What I'm thinking about is this: have> the> Martec folding prop checked out and then having> it> installed and let Accu-Prop repitch the three> blade> and carry it for a spare. What do you think?> >> Should Accu-Prop check out the Martec or should it>> be sent back to Martec to be "refurbished"?> > I'm> still not sure if 16x9 on a two blade fixed prop>> means that the Martec should be repitched from> 16x10> to 16x9. Would Accu-Porp know? Could they> repitch> the Martec? How do I reach them?> > Good> news update on the 25. Bet you can't wait!> >> Reggie> > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom:>> bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:32:54>> -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat> > > > >> Hi Reggie,I have heard that 2" is the max pitch>> change, so youare in. Do you want me to have Josh>> pull your prop andtake it to Accu-Prop?I had a 2>> blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot ofgetting>> accustomed to, like entering a slip you> startbacking> down real soon at high RPM's. Pounding> intohead seas> was tough, but usually big seas are> causedby wind,> so you sail.I have a Luke 3 blade> feathering prop on> Satori, ourCal Cruising 46. In> light airs, when I> feather it Ipick up 1/2 knot.We> stopped by to check> out the paint job on> Bravura,our Cal 25 last Friday.> He has done a> wonderful job onfairing, filling and> priming. She> should get the finalcoats this week, so> we can get> her home and re-riggedfor the Dauphin> Island Race> on Mobile Bay April 26. Itwill be my> first race in> many years.Tom and Bobbie VandiverTom> Vandiver--- r> good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> >> Michigan> Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade>> prop. I> have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop>> shop could> make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is>> that> true?> > anyone know what that would translate> into> for a 2> blade folding?> > Reggie > > > > > > > > > > > >

Will do. And, are you wearing your Crocs in the cold, bitter and snowed in Big Sky? It is t shirt and shorts WX here on the bayou Everyone who stops by always comments on how good Gypsy Gael looks. "That sure is a nice boat. Is it for sale?" Tom --- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > thanks. when it is collected, please see what all > is stamped on it. > > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: > bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:22:02 > -0700Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat > > > > > Will do Monday.Tom--- r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> > wrote:> > Isn't diving anywhaere to pull a propeller > a Croc?> > Michigan wheel was my source for the > recommendation> of 16x8 3 blade or 16x9 2 blade. I > remembered you> mentioning them and sent them my > info. Thanks.> > I believe the Martec is in the > starboard lazarrette,> in a black plastic milk > crate. I would be happy to> retain Josh or anyone > else to collect it and send it> off to Martec on my > behalf.> > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom:> > bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:29:26> > -0700Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat> > > > > > Hi Reggie,I would send the Mar Tec back to them.> > They are goodpeople.As far as the proper pitch, > have> you checked intowww.michiganwheel.com for > their prop> program? You sendall of the info > requested and they> sort it out andsend you a > suggested size and pitch.I> always carry a spare > prop, prop puller and> hookahwhen cruising. I picked > up a piece of chain in> CostaRica damaging the Luke, > so I pulled it out by> IslaGitana, took it into town > and had it repaired.> Aftermy diving, the locals > told me about the> crocodiles.Tom--- r good > <my… [at] hotmail.com>> wrote:> > I'm thinking of > going to the folding prop.> I> wouldn't have to wory > about the prop spinning> any> more, either. I've had > a Martec folding prop> on> "Knot Ready" since day > one and like it.> > I> have a Martec 16x10 folding > in the lazarette on> the> boat. What I'm thinking > about is this: have> the> Martec folding prop > checked out and then having> it> installed and let > Accu-Prop repitch the three> blade> and carry it for > a spare. What do you think?> >> Should Accu-Prop > check out the Martec or should it>> be sent back to > Martec to be "refurbished"?> > I'm> still not sure > if 16x9 on a two blade fixed prop>> means that the > Martec should be repitched from> 16x10> to 16x9. > Would Accu-Porp know? Could they> repitch> the > Martec? How do I reach them?> > Good> news update on > the 25. Bet you can't wait!> >> Reggie> > > To: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom:>> > bs… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:32:54>> > -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] prop + chat> > > > >> > Hi Reggie,I have heard that 2" is the max pitch>> > change, so youare in. Do you want me to have Josh>> > pull your prop andtake it to Accu-Prop?I had a 2>> > blade folding on my Col 36. It took a lot > ofgetting>> accustomed to, like entering a slip you> > startbacking> down real soon at high RPM's. > Pounding> intohead seas> was tough, but usually big > seas are> causedby wind,> so you sail.I have a Luke > 3 blade> feathering prop on> Satori, ourCal Cruising > 46. In> light airs, when I> feather it Ipick up 1/2 > knot.We> stopped by to check> out the paint job on> > Bravura,our Cal 25 last Friday.> He has done a> > wonderful job onfairing, filling and> priming. She> > should get the finalcoats this week, so> we can get> > her home and re-riggedfor the Dauphin> Island Race> > on Mobile Bay April 26. Itwill be my> first race in> > many years.Tom and Bobbie VandiverTom> Vandiver--- > r> good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:> >> Michigan> > Wheel says I should have a 16x8 3 blade>> prop. I> > have a 16x10. seems I heard a good prop>> shop > could> make thatmuch of a change to a prop. is>> > that> true?> > anyone know what that would > translate> into> for a 2> blade folding?> > Reggie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

John, The Farymann has a Right Hand prop, usually a 12X12 fixed two blade. Frans

Thanks, Frans! I have a 2-blade 12x12, but couldn't remember the rotation. Best, John --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Frans Sell <franssell@...> wrote: > > John, > > The Farymann has a Right Hand prop, usually a 12X12 fixed two blade. > > Frans >