Re: [Cal_Boats] Handrail Removal

ATTACHMENT: Interior handholds are held on by wood screws. Exterior handholds are thru bolted. So if I remove the interior handrails it is a good time to remove the exterior rails since the nuts will be exposed correct? Would I be able to just remove the nuts from below and not drill out the upper bungs? BUNG REMOVAL: The only way I know of removing the bungs is to drill them out. Be careful not to ruin the Phillips head of the underlying screw/bolt. I thought a small holesaw might work better as it would drill a flat hole as opposed to a tapered hole. Does that make sense? BUNG REPLACEMENT: First, bungs are cheap. Second, be sure to get the right size. Third, use a rasp to reshape the new bung. Took me about 20 min for an interior handrail. 20 min just to install new bungs or for the removal as well? Thanks!! Paul From: "pwestla@aol. "pwestla<pw… [at] aol.pwe> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou C Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 4:14:43 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Handrail Removal Does anyone know how the interior handrails (and exterior too for that matter) are attached to the deck? Is there a piece of aluminum embedded in the coachroof that is threaded for bolts to screw into or is it just wood and the rails are attached with wood screws? Any secret methods out there for removing the bungs w/o making a mess of things? Just drill them out, use a small holesaw or is there a better way? Thanks - Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 Mk III

Wow, thanks everyone! If nothing else I learned not get glue in my bunghole lest I want it removed by various painfull sounding methods! Paul In a message dated 3/16/2010 4:29:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wa… [at] yahoo.com writes: Last year I removed and reinstalled 3 interior handrails and this year I have removed and am reinstalling one exterior handrail. All were attached as stated in my prior email. I was very happy that the original installer (Bangor Punta) didn't glue the bungs. I merely drilled a hold in the middle of the bung and pulled it out. On a couple I had to resort to putting a screw a little way into the hole to pull out the bung. A couple of times I had to break the bung apart to get it out. I never had the problem of breaking/splinterin I never had When I replaced the bungs I simply tapped in the new ones. They are tapered so will jam in the hole. If the hole is not deep enough to have the bung jam just file down the bottom of the bung so that the top will jam. I didn't glue in the bungs. Murphy says that if I don't glue I woun't have to replace them for a while. I know that if I glue them in I will have to take them out almost immediatley. Murphy, my constent companion. Don't forget: I'm the guy who hates to varnish so I will not be having that problem. Teak oil doesn't crack (I hope). Regardless of how it sounds, and I was nervous going into the job initially, it really ends up being pretty simple. From: "pwestla@aol. "pwestla<pw… [at] aol.pwe> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou C Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 4:14:43 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Handrail Removal Does anyone know how the interior handrails (and exterior too for that matter) are attached to the deck? Is there a piece of aluminum embedded in the coachroof that is threaded for bolts to screw into or is it just wood and the rails are attached with wood screws? Any secret methods out there for removing the bungs w/o making a mess of things? Just drill them out, use a small holesaw or is there a better way? Thanks - Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 Mk III

My $.02 on the topic: I started doing the same thing last week, using a paddle bit instead of a Forstner. The Forstner sounds like a better idea, as I still have to chisel out some pieces of bung, but until the Forstner fairy visits I'll have to make do. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, pwestla@... wrote: > > > ATTACHMENT: Interior handholds are held on by wood screws. Exterior > handholds are thru bolted. > > So if I remove the interior handrails it is a good time to remove the > exterior rails since the nuts will be exposed correct? Would I be able to just > remove the nuts from below and not drill out the upper bungs? > > BUNG REMOVAL: The only way I know of removing the bungs is to drill them > out. Be careful not to ruin the Phillips head of the underlying screw/bolt. > > I thought a small holesaw might work better as it would drill a flat hole > as opposed to a tapered hole. Does that make sense? > > BUNG REPLACEMENT: First, bungs are cheap. Second, be sure to get the > right size. Third, use a rasp to reshape the new bung. Took me about 20 min > for an interior handrail. > > 20 min just to install new bungs or for the removal as well? > > Thanks!! > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________ > From: "pwestla@aol. "pwestla<pwestla@...> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou C > Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 4:14:43 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Handrail Removal > > > Does anyone know how the interior handrails (and exterior too for that > matter) are attached to the deck? Is there a piece of aluminum embedded in > the coachroof that is threaded for bolts to screw into or is it just wood and > the rails are attached with wood screws? > > Any secret methods out there for removing the bungs w/o making a mess of > things? Just drill them out, use a small holesaw or is there a better way? > > Thanks - > > Paul West > Adventure Kwest > '80 Cal 39 Mk III >