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broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

What pump do you need / what engine are we discussing? -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* On 4/5/2010 12:25 PM, r good wrote: > > > broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after > 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. > We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. > Reggie > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2791 - Release Date: 04/04/10 14:32:00 > > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

Again!? This is #5 in 2 years, isn't it? We've got to find a different pump manufacturer for you. This is ridiculous! Mike On 4/5/2010 12:25 PM, r good wrote: > > > broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after > 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. > We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. > Reggie > >

What about using an exterior, electric pump? They use such things for motors, don't they? Then you can use any pump you wish. Good revenge, I'd say! Just don't run out of juice, or have a solar or wind or both chargers. Heh heh. Damn the torpedos! Hmm. How can a pump possibly break down after 72 hours? Is it made out of sturdy laminated chicken fat? Jerry --- On Mon, 4/5/10, mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> wrote: From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:33 AM Again!? This is #5 in 2 years, isn't it? We've got to find a different pump manufacturer for you. This is ridiculous! Mike On 4/5/2010 12:25 PM, r good wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

Reggie, If I remember correctly, on your Westerbeke branded Perkins 4-107, you have a Sherwood pump from Depco. (It may be a Johnson but I'm not sure...) With a little searching, I have found two replacements: A 762-G-65 P PUMP SEAWAT(PERKIN4108)3/4 <http://inetmarine.com/ProductImages/she/G65.jpg>SHEG65 which is a Sherwood pump and a Jabsco #JAB 3270-000. The Jabsco is available at Boatbandit.com <http://www.boatbandit.com/jabsco-self-priming-engine-cooling-pump-5600.aspx> for $330. The Sherwood is available at Inetmarine.com <http://inetmarine.com/762-g-65ppumpseawatperkin410834sheg65.aspx> for $413.69. Depco will be high dollar, but should warranty the pump. Maybe Mr. DeMers has better sources than I can scare up... Joe? Do you know if there is an Oberdorfer pump that he can use? (I've seen Oberdorfers, but never saw one leaking so never had to fix one.) Mike On 4/5/2010 12:25 PM, r good wrote: > > > broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after > 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. > We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. > Reggie > > >

My daughter lives in Hobe Sound. Do you need a ride anywhere? -- Sent from my Palm Pixi On Apr 5, 2010 9:32, r good &lt;my… [at] hotmail.com&gt; wrote: &nbsp; broken down in Stuart Florida.&nbsp; Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use.&nbsp; can't get one until Wednesday.&nbsp; $600.&nbsp; what fun.&nbsp; We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

If you get in a total jam I'm in the keys and will come up and help. Rich From: Randall Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 1:28:51 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown My daughter lives in Hobe Sound. Do you need a ride anywhere? On Apr 5, 2010 9:32, r good <my1972ih@hotmail. com> wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie -- Sent from my Palm Pixi

Thanks! To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ri… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:10:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown If you get in a total jam I'm in the keys and will come up and help. Rich From: Randall Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 1:28:51 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown My daughter lives in Hobe Sound. Do you need a ride anywhere? -- Sent from my Palm Pixi On Apr 5, 2010 9:32, r good <my1972ih@hotmail. com> wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

my pump is model F85 Sherwood. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: mi… [at] wahini.org Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:13:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown (Reggie) Reggie, If I remember correctly, on your Westerbeke branded Perkins 4-107, you have a Sherwood pump from Depco. (It may be a Johnson but I'm not sure...) With a little searching, I have found two replacements: A SHEG65 which is a Sherwood pump and a Jabsco #JAB 3270-000. The Jabsco is available at Boatbandit.com for $330. The Sherwood is available at Inetmarine.com for $413.69. Depco will be high dollar, but should warranty the pump. Maybe Mr. DeMers has better sources than I can scare up... Joe? Do you know if there is an Oberdorfer pump that he can use? (I've seen Oberdorfers, but never saw one leaking so never had to fix one.) Mike On 4/5/2010 12:25 PM, r good wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

Hi Joe Westerbeke 4-107 Sherwood F85 pump, Westerbeke poart number 016423. Shearwater Marine in Stuart is a local W3esterbeke dealer and has one coming he says with a Wednesday AM arrrival. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: je… [at] mindspring.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:31:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown What pump do you need / what engine are we discussing? -- Joe DeMers - owner Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com phone & fax (860) 666-2184 On 4/5/2010 12:25 PM, r good wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2791 - Release Date: 04/04/10 14:32:00 -- Joe DeMers - owner Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com phone & fax (860) 666-2184

Excellent suggestion Jerry. Outside the box. have to figure out volume of the old pump to chose an adequate substitute. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: so… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:12:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown What about using an exterior, electric pump? They use such things for motors, don't they? Then you can use any pump you wish. Good revenge, I'd say! Just don't run out of juice, or have a solar or wind or both chargers. Heh heh. Damn the torpedos! Hmm. How can a pump possibly break down after 72 hours? Is it made out of sturdy laminated chicken fat? Jerry --- On Mon, 4/5/10, mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> wrote: From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:33 AM Again!? This is #5 in 2 years, isn't it? We've got to find a different pump manufacturer for you. This is ridiculous! Mike On 4/5/2010 12:25 PM, r good wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

Thanks, Randy. we spent yesterday afternoon preparing the dinghy for its initial launch. We're planning to dinghy to downtown Stuart this morning to do a little shopping, etc. Not sure yet how we'll get the new pump tomorrow, assuming it arrives. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sa… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:28:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown My daughter lives in Hobe Sound. Do you need a ride anywhere? -- Sent from my Palm Pixi On Apr 5, 2010 9:32, r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

$600 for a raw water pump for a Perkins? Dayum Reggie, I would have driven to Stuart with a new pump and changed it for that! Something is wrong somewhere, besides the pump. The raw water pump on my Perkins 4-236, (same type, gear driven) has 3,600 hours on it and is a 1987 model. I have only changed the impeller as needed. Other 4-107/8's I have serviced pumps have lasted for thousands of hours. When you said "died" what do you mean? It exploded Shaft broke Seals started leaking These pumps are easily rebuilt, new parts are available from Depco Pump in Clearwater. I am sure you have checked, but -is the strainer clean and allowing sea water in -if your exhaust manifold is raw water cooled, is it clogged -what is the condition of the water induction elbow Excessive back pressure from a clogged manifold or induction elbow could maybe cause blown shaft seals Where did you get the pumps? Save them and let's investigate. Maybe it is the Chickcharnies, you could have offended them... Tom Vandiver From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 11:25:16 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] breakdown broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

thanks again, we managed to get all done, with wome hiking for parts thrown in. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sa… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:28:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] breakdown My daughter lives in Hobe Sound. Do you need a ride anywhere? -- Sent from my Palm Pixi On Apr 5, 2010 9:32, r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: broken down in Stuart Florida. Raw water pump died this morning after 73 hours or so use. can't get one until Wednesday. $600. what fun. We were just getting ready to leave the anchorage. Reggie

$600 for a raw water pump for a Perkins? Dayum Reggie, I would have driven to Stuart with a new pump and changed it for that! ...........that was just to get the pump!.. changed it myself. pretty good at it now. When you said "died" what do you mean? It exploded Shaft broke Seals started leaking ........this one the drive tangs on the input end of the shaft broke off. This is the second pum which died that way. the other 3 were bad seals. These pumps are easily rebuilt, new parts are available from Depco Pump in Clearwater. I am sure you have checked, ..........I've had two rebuilt by depcopumps which also died. i sent one of my two dead pumps to them on Tuesday and heard from them today that it was beyond rebuild. but -is the strainer clean and allowing sea water in .........yes. checked daily before startup. -if your exhaust manifold is raw water cooled, is it clogged ....... no -what is the condition of the water induction elbow .........good Excessive back pressure from a clogged manifold or induction elbow could maybe cause blown shaft seals .......no doubt, but not likely to cause broken shafts. REggie