Washington Manure Spill

Hey folks! I stumbled across this little tidbit on the net. Washington Manure Spill <http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/04/14/Washington-manure-spill-conta\ minates-river/UPI-23911271283871/> Now make sure your "Y" valve is in the proper position :-S It's just more proof that the legislators are making dung heaps out of rabbit turds when it comes to recreational boats and their waste processes. Don't get me wrong, I am all for not dumping unprocessed crap in the water. It's just that recently proposed "no-discharge" legislation on the east coast seems to be over kill, expensive and inconvenient for the boat owner. Thanks for letting me rant. Mike

I think you can still pee over the side. Did you know that most people who fall off a boat and drown have their flys down? Did you know that almost nobody falls off of sailboats? Did you know I am making all this up? Allen On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:44 PM, cal40pir8 <mi… [at] wahini.org> wrote: > > > Hey folks! I stumbled across this little tidbit on the net. Washington > Manure Spill<http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/04/14/Washington-manure-spill-contaminates-river/UPI-23911271283871/> > Now make sure your "Y" valve is in the proper position :-S > It's just more proof that the legislators are making dung heaps out of > rabbit turds when it comes to recreational boats and their waste processes. > Don't get me wrong, I am all for not dumping unprocessed crap in the water. > It's just that recently proposed "no-discharge" legislation on the east > coast seems to be over kill, expensive and inconvenient for the boat owner. > Thanks for letting me rant. > Mike > > >

Allen, --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@...> wrote: > > I think you can still pee over the side. Did you know that most people who > fall off a boat and drown have their flys down? Did you know that almost > nobody falls off of sailboats? Did you know I am making all this up? > > Allen >

I have gone over the side of SAILBOATS( Not by choice 4 times) I have been Damn lucky in 40 years and 100, 000 miles at sea, Nuff said, mike From: cal40pir8 <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 2:52:13 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Washington Manure Spill (Allen) Allen, --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Allen Edwards <allen.edwards@...> wrote: > > I think you can still pee over the side. Did you know that most people who > fall off a boat and drown have their flys down? Did you know that almost > nobody falls off of sailboats? Did you know I am making all this up? > > Allen > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

URBAN LEGEND/ Sea story--- My best, Mike From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 2:35:19 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Washington Manure Spill I think you can still pee over the side. Did you know that most people who fall off a boat and drown have their flys down? Did you know that almost nobody falls off of sailboats? Did you know I am making all this up? Allen On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:44 PM, cal40pir8 <mi… [at] wahini.org> wrote: >Hey folks! I stumbled across this little tidbit on the net. Washington Manure Spill Now make sure your "Y" valve is in the proper position :-S >It's just more proof that the legislators are making dung heaps out of rabbit turds when it comes to recreational boats and their waste processes. Don't get me wrong, I am all for not dumping unprocessed crap in the water. It's just that recently proposed "no-discharge" legislation on the east coast seems to be over kill, expensive and inconvenient for the boat owner. Thanks for letting me rant. >Mike > >

Well, that was a weird, stray click of the mouse. Sorry about that... What I was trying to post is: Yep, I've seen the 'peeing over the side' comments on this site before. Do it all the time myself except in polite company. It's a lot more expedient than running below. I've heard the myth of the fly open drowning victims since I was a boy. It makes sense since after a few beers and lost balance, guys do it over the rail. It doesn't take a leap in logic to assume that some folks have fallen overboard. Speaking of overboard; I have fallen overboard when the lifeline webbing on Beths' Cal-27 gave way during a light air race while slowly catching a Ranger 33, Este, that we had never beaten before. My esteemed foredeck guy, Dr. Bill, was in the cockpit at the same time. When the webbing let loose, I did a backflip over the side while still holding the tiller. I jammed the poor guys leg between the tiller and the settee. I didn't let go right away and kept telling the crew to keep racing! Meanwhile Bill was in agony until Beth took the tiller and I could get hold of the side of the boat while Bill helped me scramble back in. Also, my sister was present who had never sailed before and thought I was nuts. She freaked out and I had to make her promise to never tell mom that I fell overboard. She told. This was when I was 42 years old. Arrggh! (Mom still gives me grief about it. I'm glad she's still around to do so, but, sheesh!) We lost to Este by about 30 seconds. That was a painful 2nd place! I'm glad my crew was there and that it wasn't rough out. It could very easily have been more of a disaster. As for the pending legislation in Maryland making it a no discharge zone, I wish I were making it up. Go Here. <http://www.boatus.com/gov/state_alert.asp#MD> Mike --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "cal40pir8" <mike@...> wrote: > > Allen, > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Allen Edwards allen.edwards@ > wrote: > > > > I think you can still pee over the side. Did you know that most > people who > > fall off a boat and drown have their flys down? Did you know that > almost > > nobody falls off of sailboats? Did you know I am making all this up? > > > > Allen > > >

mike farrell wrote: > > > I have gone over the side of SAILBOATS( Not by choice 4 times) We're all slow learners, aren't we? I went over the handlebars of my bicycle twice before I figured out that a helmet might be a good idea. Maybe it was too late by then. I've been wearing my inflatable PFD when single-handing in the spring (before the water warms up) and when there's any danger of going over. At some point you worry about your luck running out. Chris Campbell

A friend got knocked overboard by his boom. His red hat and whistle enabled him to raise a powerboat nearby. Otherwise, he would not have been able to tell the story. I started wearing a red hat and a whistle after hearing that story. I also use a tether when single handing Allen On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Chris Campbell < cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: > > > mike farrell wrote: > > I have gone over the side of SAILBOATS( Not by choice 4 times) > > We're all slow learners, aren't we? I went over the handlebars of my > bicycle twice before I figured out that a helmet might be a good idea. > Maybe it was too late by then. I've been wearing my inflatable PFD when > single-handing in the spring (before the water warms up) and when there's > any danger of going over. At some point you worry about your luck running > out. > > Chris Campbell > > >

I've been sailing since 1971 so I think the odds are on my side. Never the less, Interestingly 3 times on sf bay once on aproaching Kaneohe in the 1988 Pac cup. Last time in the 2009 GGYC summer friday nite Beer cans. A crash jibe to avoid starboard tacker put me over the side still clutching the tiller. My foredeck never saw me in the water. My Trimmer says that I said " Would please help me back on board" He thought my politeness was funny. So much for a catholic school education. I was in deep contemplation for a week after this event. It was reported to the RC and the RC asked me if there was anyone OB from Rambler. My reply--- Define overboard__ I never let go of the rail and I was back aboard damn soon.. And so I told him. We finished 2nd on handicap. How about that to demoralise the competition. Next Race Sausalito YC Tuesday series, a week from t'day. Am still looking for 1 more crew. Some NEVER grow up! My Best, Mike From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 7:54:03 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Washington Manure Spill (Allen) A friend got knocked overboard by his boom. His red hat and whistle enabled him to raise a powerboat nearby. Otherwise, he would not have been able to tell the story. I started wearing a red hat and a whistle after hearing that story. I also use a tether when single handing Allen On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: >mike farrell wrote: > I have gone over the side of SAILBOATS( Not by choice 4 times) We're all slow learners, aren't we? I went over the handlebars of my bicycle twice before I figured out that a helmet might be a good idea. Maybe it was too late by then. I've been wearing my inflatable PFD when single-handing in the spring (before the water warms up) and when there's any danger of going over. At some point you worry about your luck running out. > >Chris Campbell >