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I’m reading The Journeying Moon by Ernle Bradford (thanks Rogges) and would recommend it. It is a good story about a couple from England who decided to go sailing, but what I think makes it worthwhile is some of the life philosophies. Good food for thought. Not one of the life philosophies, but still made me wonder, was his comment that living on a boat requires constant upkeep. This is true, but isn’t it also true of living in a house? Yet it seems to me that I don’t mind it here, but I’m not really crazy about house, yard, car upkeep. What is the difference? I have more leisure time. Smaller spaces, so most of them take less time. I have more affection for Submit than I do for the house. I don’t even mind cooking and doing dishes. Almost everything is better on Submit. Just wanted you to know that I’m exercising my mind so it won’t go to mush. Barbara Reggie Good CLU, LUTCF, ChFC Reginald J Good Agency 135 Clothier Lane PO Box 654 Lakeside, MT 59922-0654 406-844-3143 1-800-823 LIFE(5433) fax: 406-844-3191 website www.Insurance-Solutions.biz email: Re… [at] Insurance-Solutions.biz

> > > Just wanted you to know that I’m exercising my mind so it won’t go to mush. > > If you prefer living on a boat to living in a house some people would say you are too late, but I wouldn't. :-) Allen

r good wrote: > > > > Not one of the life philosophies, but still made me wonder, was his > comment that living on a boat requires constant upkeep. This is true, > but isn’t it also true of living in a house? Yet it seems to me that I > don’t mind it here, but I’m not really crazy about house, yard, car > upkeep. What is the difference? Over in my boat notebooks I have that little article from WoodenBoat about rebuilding a fire-damaged Concordia yawl. The carpenter told the owner that he talked to the boat, because he knew the owner must do so, too. The owner asked what he said. "I tell her that she'll be OK." Not many folks talk to their houses, I suppose. We have a closer emotional bond with our boats, which have more human-like shapes and are usually more specifically adapted to our activities. We depend on our boats for sustaining our lives in very difficult circumstances. That's why I get the big smile when I row away from the mooring and watch my pretty boat there. Chris Campbell

This "feeling" is not just a feeling, but is backed up by bank data! In both Texas and Florida, I was told by bankers that they would much rather deal with boat loans than with home mortgages. Each one told me of personal experiences where individuals were eating cat food, but keeping the boat loan current! The attachment between men and boats is much stronger than men and real estate. On a note of personal experience, for the two years that we lived aboard with our 3 children, the vast majority of the other live-aboards were divorced men who gave up everything that they possessed in order to keep their boat! Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 6:55:28 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mind mush r good wrote: > > > > >Not one of the >life philosophies, but still made me wonder, was his comment that >living on a boat requires constant upkeep. This is true, but isn’t it >also true of living in a house? Yet it seems to me that I don’t mind it >here, but I’m not really crazy about house, yard, car upkeep. What is >the difference? Over in my boat notebooks I have that little article from WoodenBoat about rebuilding a fire-damaged Concordia yawl. The carpenter told the owner that he talked to the boat, because he knew the owner must do so, too. The owner asked what he said. "I tell her that she'll be OK." Not many folks talk to their houses, I suppose. We have a closer emotional bond with our boats, which have more human-like shapes and are usually more specifically adapted to our activities. We depend on our boats for sustaining our lives in very difficult circumstances. That's why I get the big smile when I row away from the mooring and watch my pretty boat there. Chris Campbell

Donald Dutton wrote: > > > > On a note of personal experience, for the two years that we lived > aboard with our 3 children, the vast majority of the other > live-aboards were divorced men who gave up everything that they > possessed in order to keep their boat! I've read several accounts of families who raised their kids on boats while doing extended cruising. None of them seem to have been harmed by lack of vast, solid square footage to live in, and if anything, they seem to have turned out better than your average kid. It would certainly give children a chance to observe parents actually taking control of life and making decisions of some importance, and it would give the kids a chance to participate in activities that affect their own well-being. It probably helps that any parents undertaking such a life are brighter, or at least more energetic, and more directly involved with their families. Luckily, I've never had to sell a boat. The Cal 20 was intended as an interim vessel, to tide me over until I brought the other one around to this side of Michigan, but she has earned lots of affection so she stays. Chris Campbell >

When we first moved ashore to a spacious home in Brick, NJ, the kids grabbed the chairs and TV and put them all in one corner of the living room so we could all be close together like we had been on the boat. The rest of the living room seemed like such a waste of space. Ironically, the cabinets in the kitchen could not contain everything that we had stored in the galley. We had to buy a portable microwave table to hold pots and supplies that had fit comfortably in the cabinets of the galley on our boat. To this day, I would rather live on a boat than in a house. We waste so much that we really don't need to support a house! The Canadian couple that we met at a boat show in Atlantic City, NJ inspired us to sell our home and move aboard. They cruised for 3 years and their children named new species of shell fish while home-schooling on board. They were Canadians and cruised on a Tartan 39. (Books were Just Cruising and Still Cruising.) I figured that having kids that had seen the world from the water going to high school would be far superior to kids who had lived in western NJ. For better or worse, when our unexpected child came along, we canceled our plans and went back to terra firma! His life threatening bronchitis at 5 months of age seemed to support our decision to not cruise with a baby. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 9:33:50 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mind mush(Chris) Donald Dutton wrote: > > > >>On a note of personal experience, for the two years that we lived >aboard with our 3 children, the vast majority of the other live-aboards >were divorced men who gave up everything that they possessed in order >to keep their boat! > I've read several accounts of families who raised their kids on boats while doing extended cruising. None of them seem to have been harmed by lack of vast, solid square footage to live in, and if anything, they seem to have turned out better than your average kid. It would certainly give children a chance to observe parents actually taking control of life and making decisions of some importance, and it would give the kids a chance to participate in activities that affect their own well-being. It probably helps that any parents undertaking such a life are brighter, or at least more energetic, and more directly involved with their families. Luckily, I've never had to sell a boat. The Cal 20 was intended as an interim vessel, to tide me over until I brought the other one around to this side of Michigan, but she has earned lots of affection so she stays. Chris Campbell

I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. More tomorrow. Allen On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Chris Campbell < cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: > > > r good wrote: > > > Not one of the life philosophies, but still made me wonder, was his > comment that living on a boat requires constant upkeep. This is true, but > isn’t it also true of living in a house? Yet it seems to me that I don’t > mind it here, but I’m not really crazy about house, yard, car upkeep. What > is the difference? > > Over in my boat notebooks I have that little article from WoodenBoat about > rebuilding a fire-damaged Concordia yawl. The carpenter told the owner that > he talked to the boat, because he knew the owner must do so, too. The owner > asked what he said. "I tell her that she'll be OK." > > Not many folks talk to their houses, I suppose. We have a closer emotional > bond with our boats, which have more human-like shapes and are usually more > specifically adapted to our activities. We depend on our boats for > sustaining our lives in very difficult circumstances. That's why I get the > big smile when I row away from the mooring and watch my pretty boat there. > > Chris Campbell > > > >

Allen, by my calculations, you are right on schedule. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:56 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mind mush I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. More tomorrow. Allen On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com<mailto:cl… [at] charterinternet.com>> wrote: r good wrote: Not one of the life philosophies, but still made me wonder, was his comment that living on a boat requires constant upkeep. This is true, but isn't it also true of living in a house? Yet it seems to me that I don't mind it here, but I'm not really crazy about house, yard, car upkeep. What is the difference? Over in my boat notebooks I have that little article from WoodenBoat about rebuilding a fire-damaged Concordia yawl. The carpenter told the owner that he talked to the boat, because he knew the owner must do so, too. The owner asked what he said. "I tell her that she'll be OK." Not many folks talk to their houses, I suppose. We have a closer emotional bond with our boats, which have more human-like shapes and are usually more specifically adapted to our activities. We depend on our boats for sustaining our lives in very difficult circumstances. That's why I get the big smile when I row away from the mooring and watch my pretty boat there. Chris Campbell

So what's your point, Allen? 6 hours on a 2 hour boat project and half done? Isn't that pretty much right on schedule for boat projects? LOL! Sure is for my boat projects. Then we could talk about the budget multiples, which are possibly even worse. The good news is that the money we save on yard labor allows us to pay ourselves something in the range of $ .47 per hour. Wilkie On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: > I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite > company. I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. > More tomorrow. > > > Allen > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com > > wrote: > > r good wrote: > >> >> Not one of the life philosophies, but still made me wonder, was his >> comment that living on a boat requires constant upkeep. This is >> true, but isn’t it also true of living in a house? Yet it seems to >> me that I don’t mind it here, but I’m not really crazy about house, >> yard, car upkeep. What is the difference? > Over in my boat notebooks I have that little article from WoodenBoat > about rebuilding a fire-damaged Concordia yawl. The carpenter told > the owner that he talked to the boat, because he knew the owner must > do so, too. The owner asked what he said. "I tell her that she'll > be OK." > > Not many folks talk to their houses, I suppose. We have a closer > emotional bond with our boats, which have more human-like shapes and > are usually more specifically adapted to our activities. We depend > on our boats for sustaining our lives in very difficult > circumstances. That's why I get the big smile when I row away from > the mooring and watch my pretty boat there. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > >

Allen Edwards wrote: > > > I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite > company. I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. I save all my most abusive language for Ford engineers whenever I change the oil on the little truck. Did it last night. Let's see, remove oil filter. Oil flows all over left lower control arm and into little recesses from which it will continue to drip for an hour. @#$&**!!!. Next go to oil drain plug. Lessee, is that metric or fractional inches? Why won't the socket fit? Who rounded the corners on the hex head? Tap socket on with hammer. Remove plug; it faces sideways so oil pees out horizontally all over everything. @#$%&**!!!!. Then we have the Mustang, which has the oil filter located directly above a mass of cables with ribbed plastic covering, so the oil gets buried in lots of little crevices when it runs over everything. @#$%&**!!!. After that, the boat is a real sweetheart. Chris Campbell >

My favorite line ever was one I heard one Ferrari owner say to another at a car show. One owner was saying how hard some task was. The other explained an easier way to do it: "Do it while you are changing the oil, you have the radiator out anyway." Allen On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Chris Campbell < cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: > > > Allen Edwards wrote: > > I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. > I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. > > > I save all my most abusive language for Ford engineers whenever I change > the oil on the little truck. Did it last night. Let's see, remove oil > filter. Oil flows all over left lower control arm and into little recesses > from which it will continue to drip for an hour. @#$&**!!!. Next go to oil > drain plug. Lessee, is that metric or fractional inches? Why won't the > socket fit? Who rounded the corners on the hex head? Tap socket on with > hammer. Remove plug; it faces sideways so oil pees out horizontally all > over everything. @#$%&**!!!!. Then we have the Mustang, which has the oil > filter located directly above a mass of cables with ribbed plastic covering, > so the oil gets buried in lots of little crevices when it runs over > everything. @#$%&**!!!. > > After that, the boat is a real sweetheart. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > >

Allen Edwards wrote: > > > My favorite line ever was one I heard one Ferrari owner say to another > at a car show. One owner was saying how hard some task was. The > other explained an easier way to do it: "Do it while you are changing > the oil, you have the radiator out anyway." Good one. A long time ago an acquaintance whose mechanical ability extended no farther than being able to identify a pair of pliers asked me to help him change the plugs in his VW bug. He happily pointed out that the car came with a little tool kit. Better still, one of the tools VW provided was a plug wrench. Wow, was I impressed. American cars of the time gave you a bumper jack and lug wrench, period, and if you actually used the bumper jack to jack up the car, it caused the bumper to collide with the paint and bodywork. But back to the VW. We raised the rear hood and got out the plug wrench and... what the???...the plug wrench runs into the sheet metal on one of the plugs so you can't use it. So much for German engineering. So much for the good old days. Chris Campbell >

Friend of mine long ago asked me to help change the plugs and oil on his prize Jag. It was pretty easy after we lifted the engine. Nick From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:24 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mind mush Allen Edwards wrote: I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. I save all my most abusive language for Ford engineers whenever I change the oil on the little truck. Did it last night. Let's see, remove oil filter. Oil flows all over left lower control arm and into little recesses from which it will continue to drip for an hour. @#$&**!!!. Next go to oil drain plug. Lessee, is that metric or fractional inches? Why won't the socket fit? Who rounded the corners on the hex head? Tap socket on with hammer. Remove plug; it faces sideways so oil pees out horizontally all over everything. @#$%&**!!!!. Then we have the Mustang, which has the oil filter located directly above a mass of cables with ribbed plastic covering, so the oil gets buried in lots of little crevices when it runs over everything. @#$%&**!!!. After that, the boat is a real sweetheart. Chris Campbell

Yes, Jaguar brilliantly engineered to make sure your estate needs a full time car mechanic who lives above your multi car garage in what used to be a barn. The MkII XJ6 has it's alternator installed in alocation to pick up maximum road dirt and moisture so it will last least as long as possible, especially given it's funky British electrics. Well done! No I don't own one, my crew Eric does. I've owned a Ford Van, a Dodge Van, now, a GMC van. My mechanic had said the steering geometry on the GM van (which is made out sturdy tin plated laminated chicken fat) is better than that of the Dodge,, which continually needed front end parts replaced. The Ford Van handled terribly with its double I beam front end. But my 62' Ford Van (which I still own and based on a Model A) is fine, just has an enemic 144 Cubic inch 6 that struggles to get to highway speed or climb hills. It was a Western Union Line repair van along the coast, where climbing hills or going fast wasn't necessary. When I got out of the Navy, I put my Honda 450 motorcycle inside, a matress on the floor next to it, attached my Glen-L 12 death wish cattamarran on home-made trailer to the bumper, and headed to California, by way of Penshakola and Yellowstone Lake. Luckily, the boat didn't swamp in that lake (despite frequent thunder squalls at 6000 ft., like it had in the Atlantic (guy who home built the kit made the hulls open instead of closed/covered) and I'm here to type this. The Lake had thawed just before I got there in late May and was hovering above 32 degrees. The German waitress from a nearby lodge, that I talked into going sailing with me wasn't even worried when I told her we were sporting death! My current gal of many years won't go sailing (I dumped her in the ocean, in front of the launching ramp at Channel Islands Marina when an out of the blue mega-gust hit our rented Capri 14, while the sheets were cleated and I was sitting on the leeward gunnel in a dead calm) but doesn't mind if I do as much as I want, she's a nurse-work-aholic. Jerry --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Gmail Chernikit <ch… [at] gmail.com> wrote: From: Gmail Chernikit <ch… [at] gmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mind mush boats cars love objects To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 7:41 AM Friend of mine long ago asked me to help change the plugs and oil on his prize Jag. It was pretty easy after we lifted the engine. Nick

I have an old 1972 XJ6 that I started to restore a long time ago, but never finished. Now it looks like I never will. It was voted one the world's 10 best cars that year. I still love it. Lots of memories in that car. Mine does NOT lookl like this brand new one. Bruce Stirling On 4/23/10, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Yes, Jaguar brilliantly engineered to make sure your estate needs a full > time car mechanic who lives above your multi car garage in what used to be a > barn. The MkII XJ6 has it's alternator installed in alocation to pick up > maximum road dirt and moisture so it will last least as long as possible, > especially given it's funky British electrics. Well done! > No I don't own one, my crew Eric does. > I've owned a Ford Van, a Dodge Van, now, a GMC van. My mechanic had said > the steering geometry on the GM van (which is made out sturdy tin plated > laminated chicken fat) is better than that of the Dodge,, which continually > needed front end parts replaced. > The Ford Van handled terribly with its double I beam front end. But my 62' > Ford Van (which I still own and based on a Model A) is fine, just has an > enemic 144 Cubic inch 6 that struggles to get to highway speed or climb > hills. It was a Western Union Line repair van along the coast, where > climbing hills or going fast wasn't necessary. When I got out of the Navy, I > put my Honda 450 motorcycle inside, a matress on the floor next to it, > attached my Glen-L 12 death wish cattamarran on home-made trailer to the > bumper, and headed to California, by way of Penshakola and Yellowstone Lake. > Luckily, the boat didn't swamp in that lake (despite frequent thunder > squalls at 6000 ft., like it had in the Atlantic (guy who home built the kit > made the hulls open instead of closed/covered) and I'm here to type this. > The Lake had thawed just before I got there in late May and was hovering > above 32 degrees. The German waitress from a nearby lodge, that I talked > into going sailing with me wasn't even worried when I told her we were > sporting death! My current gal of many years won't go sailing (I dumped her > in the ocean, in front of the launching ramp at Channel Islands Marina when > an out of the blue mega-gust hit our rented Capri 14, while the sheets were > cleated and I was sitting on the leeward gunnel in a dead calm) but doesn't > mind if I do as much as I want, she's a nurse-work-aholic. > Jerry > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Gmail Chernikit <ch… [at] gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Gmail Chernikit <ch… [at] gmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mind mush boats cars love objects > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 7:41 AM > > > > Friend of mine long ago asked me to help change the plugs and oil on his > prize Jag. It was pretty easy after we lifted the engine. > > Nick > > > -- Robert Bruce Stirling, II, Esq. 602.254.6638 602.460.5631 [Cell] 602-507-9445 [Fax] 520-302-5206 [Tucson] br… [at] stirlinglaw.com http://www.stirlinglaw.com/lawyers The information in this e-mail communication is Privileged and Confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the undersigned sender immediately and then delete this e-mail.

Bruce, Yes, Eric has a '75 and loves the car after a fashion, he had a 76 before that and thinks he put 300k miles on it; it was completely worn out when he turned it in to California as a gross poluter, but he is continually replacing alternators (both Jags). Some people convert them to Chevy 350 V-8s, which are far lighter and more powerful engines, tho less suffisstikated-no double overhead cams. The Jag is a lovely, sexy looking, heavy car, rides great (like a Mercedes sedan), grips the road because it's as low to the ground as a the lethal squat bodied cat that's its name sake. But because it's so low you can't see around all the other cars that tower around and over you, hard for a van and bike driver like me to get used to. It's great on the open road, especially country two lane roads with lots of curves. Jerry --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: From: Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mind mush boats cars love objects(Nick/Jag oil change) [1 Attachment] To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 12:46 PM [Attachment(s) from Bruce Stirling included below] I have an old 1972 XJ6 that I started to restore a long time ago, but never finished. Now it looks like I never will. It was voted one the world's 10 best cars that year. I still love it. Lots of memories in that car. Mine does NOT lookl like this brand new one. Bruce Stirling On 4/23/10, Gerald Sobel <sobel_solar@ yahoo.com> wrote: Yes, Jaguar brilliantly engineered to make sure your estate needs a full time car mechanic who lives above your multi car garage in what used to be a barn. The MkII XJ6 has it's alternator installed in alocation to pick up maximum road dirt and moisture so it will last least as long as possible, especially given it's funky British electrics. Well done! No I don't own one, my crew Eric does. I've owned a Ford Van, a Dodge Van, now, a GMC van. My mechanic had said the steering geometry on the GM van (which is made out sturdy tin plated laminated chicken fat) is better than that of the Dodge,, which continually needed front end parts replaced. The Ford Van handled terribly with its double I beam front end. But my 62' Ford Van (which I still own and based on a Model A) is fine, just has an enemic 144 Cubic inch 6 that struggles to get to highway speed or climb hills. It was a Western Union Line repair van along the coast, where climbing hills or going fast wasn't necessary. When I got out of the Navy, I put my Honda 450 motorcycle inside, a matress on the floor next to it, attached my Glen-L 12 death wish cattamarran on home-made trailer to the bumper, and headed to California, by way of Penshakola and Yellowstone Lake. Luckily, the boat didn't swamp in that lake (despite frequent thunder squalls at 6000 ft., like it had in the Atlantic (guy who home built the kit made the hulls open instead of closed/covered) and I'm here to type this. The Lake had thawed just before I got there in late May and was hovering above 32 degrees. The German waitress from a nearby lodge, that I talked into going sailing with me wasn't even worried when I told her we were sporting death! My current gal of many years won't go sailing (I dumped her in the ocean, in front of the launching ramp at Channel Islands Marina when an out of the blue mega-gust hit our rented Capri 14, while the sheets were cleated and I was sitting on the leeward gunnel in a dead calm) but doesn't mind if I do as much as I want, she's a nurse-work-aholic. Jerry --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Gmail Chernikit <chernikit@gmail. com> wrote: From: Gmail Chernikit <chernikit@gmail. com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mind mush boats cars love objects To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 7:41 AM Friend of mine long ago asked me to help change the plugs and oil on his prize Jag. It was pretty easy after we lifted the engine. Nick -- Robert Bruce Stirling, II, Esq. 602.254.6638 602.460.5631 [Cell] 602-507-9445 [Fax] 520-302-5206 [Tucson] bruce@stirlinglaw. com http://www.stirling law.com/lawyers The information in this e-mail communication is Privileged and Confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the undersigned sender immediately and then delete this e-mail.

Allen Edwards wrote: I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. Allen, Wow, that sounds like excellent progress to me! Just six hours, and half done?? I hope you didn't speak to harshly to yea boat, as she might bring it up in court to its heavenly father, Bill Lapworth. If Bill rules harshly against you you'll know, as he will smite you with a with a couple of lumps on your head. Jerry PS, The first rule of boat repair is, The length of time to do a boat repair is the inverse of the amount of time expected to accomplish the task, squared, unless you're in a hurry, in which case it is cubed. The fastest way to get the job then, is to imagine it is done, and the added benefit to that is you may get to meet Neptune that much faster. --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mind mush To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 6:23 AM Allen Edwards wrote: I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. I save all my most abusive language for Ford engineers whenever I change the oil on the little truck. Did it last night. Let's see, remove oil filter. Oil flows all over left lower control arm and into little recesses from which it will continue to drip for an hour. @#$&**!!!. Next go to oil drain plug. Lessee, is that metric or fractional inches? Why won't the socket fit? Who rounded the corners on the hex head? Tap socket on with hammer. Remove plug; it faces sideways so oil pees out horizontally all over everything. @#$%&**!!!!. Then we have the Mustang, which has the oil filter located directly above a mass of cables with ribbed plastic covering, so the oil gets buried in lots of little crevices when it runs over everything. @#$%&**!!!. After that, the boat is a real sweetheart. Chris Campbell

I finished today. Two people an additional 4 hours plus another 2 hours of cleaning up. Guess I wasn't half done. I am happy with how it came out though. I am not sure it shows up on the picture, but I made a teak spacer that followed the curve of the cabin side. I then bent the t-track as I installed it. The backing is 2x2.1 white oak spacers between the deck frames and a 1x2.5 backing block across the works. The t-track is custom made to my drawing by Garhauer. The pin spacing is 1.33 inches and the mounting holes use 1/4 inch bolts instead of the standard 5/16 as a few of the holes went through the frames and I didn't want to cut out too much wood. Allen On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Allen Edwards wrote: > > I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. > I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. > > > > Allen, > Wow, that sounds like excellent progress to me! Just six hours, and half > done?? > I hope you didn't speak to harshly to yea boat, as she might bring it up > in court to its heavenly father, Bill Lapworth. If Bill rules harshly > against you you'll know, as he will smite you with a with a couple of lumps > on your head. > Jerry > PS, The first rule of boat repair is, The length of time to do a boat > repair is the inverse of the amount of time expected to accomplish the task, > squared, unless you're in a hurry, in which case it is cubed. The fastest > way to get the job then, is to imagine it is done, and the added benefit to > that is you may get to meet Neptune that much faster. > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>*wrote: > > > From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mind mush > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 6:23 AM > > > > Allen Edwards wrote: > > I talked to my boat today but I can't repeat what I said in polite company. > I spent 6 hours on a 2 hour project and got half done. > > > I save all my most abusive language for Ford engineers whenever I change > the oil on the little truck. Did it last night. Let's see, remove oil > filter. Oil flows all over left lower control arm and into little recesses > from which it will continue to drip for an hour. @#$&**!!!. Next go to oil > drain plug. Lessee, is that metric or fractional inches? Why won't the > socket fit? Who rounded the corners on the hex head? Tap socket on with > hammer. Remove plug; it faces sideways so oil pees out horizontally all > over everything. @#$%&**!!!!. Then we have the Mustang, which has the oil > filter located directly above a mass of cables with ribbed plastic covering, > so the oil gets buried in lots of little crevices when it runs over > everything. @#$%&**!!!. > > After that, the boat is a real sweetheart. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > >

I forgot the Cal sailing content, which I thought was included in my original post: will swap the Jag for a Cal 20 and trailer. On 4/23/10, Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: > > > [Attachment(s) <#1282c357435d287a_TopText> from Bruce Stirling included > below] > > I have an old 1972 XJ6 that I started to restore a long time ago, but never > finished. Now it looks like I never will. It was voted one the world's 10 > best cars that year. I still love it. Lots of memories in that car. Mine > does NOT lookl like this brand new one. > > Bruce Stirling > > On 4/23/10, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Yes, Jaguar brilliantly engineered to make sure your estate needs a full >> time car mechanic who lives above your multi car garage in what used to be a >> barn. The MkII XJ6 has it's alternator installed in alocation to pick up >> maximum road dirt and moisture so it will last least as long as possible, >> especially given it's funky British electrics. Well done! >> No I don't own one, my crew Eric does. >> I've owned a Ford Van, a Dodge Van, now, a GMC van. My mechanic had said >> the steering geometry on the GM van (which is made out sturdy tin plated >> laminated chicken fat) is better than that of the Dodge,, which continually >> needed front end parts replaced. >> The Ford Van handled terribly with its double I beam front end. But my 62' >> Ford Van (which I still own and based on a Model A) is fine, just has an >> enemic 144 Cubic inch 6 that struggles to get to highway speed or climb >> hills. It was a Western Union Line repair van along the coast, where >> climbing hills or going fast wasn't necessary. When I got out of the Navy, I >> put my Honda 450 motorcycle inside, a matress on the floor next to it, >> attached my Glen-L 12 death wish cattamarran on home-made trailer to the >> bumper, and headed to California, by way of Penshakola and Yellowstone Lake. >> Luckily, the boat didn't swamp in that lake (despite frequent thunder >> squalls at 6000 ft., like it had in the Atlantic (guy who home built the kit >> made the hulls open instead of closed/covered) and I'm here to type this. >> The Lake had thawed just before I got there in late May and was hovering >> above 32 degrees. The German waitress from a nearby lodge, that I talked >> into going sailing with me wasn't even worried when I told her we were >> sporting death! My current gal of many years won't go sailing (I dumped her >> in the ocean, in front of the launching ramp at Channel Islands Marina when >> an out of the blue mega-gust hit our rented Capri 14, while the sheets were >> cleated and I was sitting on the leeward gunnel in a dead calm) but doesn't >> mind if I do as much as I want, she's a nurse-work-aholic. >> Jerry >> >> --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Gmail Chernikit <ch… [at] gmail.com>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Gmail Chernikit <ch… [at] gmail.com> >> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mind mush boats cars love objects >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 7:41 AM >> >> >> >> Friend of mine long ago asked me to help change the plugs and oil on his >> prize Jag. It was pretty easy after we lifted the engine. >> >> Nick >> >> > > > -- > Robert Bruce Stirling, II, Esq. > 602.254.6638 > 602.460.5631 [Cell] > 602-507-9445 [Fax] > 520-302-5206 [Tucson] > br… [at] stirlinglaw.com > http://www.stirlinglaw.com/lawyers > > The information in this e-mail communication is Privileged and > Confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the > undersigned sender immediately and then delete this e-mail. > > > -- Robert Bruce Stirling, II, Esq. 602.254.6638 602.460.5631 [Cell] 602-507-9445 [Fax] 520-302-5206 [Tucson] br… [at] stirlinglaw.com http://www.stirlinglaw.com/lawyers The information in this e-mail communication is Privileged and Confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the undersigned sender immediately and then delete this e-mail.