Sewing Machines

I have enough skill with a sewing machine (don't ask) that I've been thinking for a couple of years about pulling the trigger on a walking foot sewing machine to build my own Sunbrella gear and do moderate sail repairs. Sailrite may be the best option, but I would rather save some money. Is this possible? Anyone out there know of a cheaper machine that is adquate. From a commerical machine point of view, the Sailrite is quite inexpensive, but I won't use it much and am always thinking about a way to save a buck these days. Wilkie

Do you need a walking foot to sew Sumbrella? I use a 100 year old White for Sumbrella, and in fact did my Naugahyde cabin cushions with it, zippers and all. Just ordered some stronger thread from Sailrite as that has been my biggest problem with the Sumbrella stuff. I don't have zigzag or reverse but have not had a problem with anything. I obviously could not sew a sail or anything with that kind of precision requirement. But if you really want to save money, use your existing machine on the Sumbrella and repair your sails by hand. That said, I have looked at those Sailrite machines and tried unsuccessfully to justify buying one myself. Let me know how you like it once you get it. Allen On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM, David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> wrote: > > > > I have enough skill with a sewing machine (don't ask) that I've been > thinking for a couple of years about pulling the trigger on a walking > foot sewing machine to build my own Sunbrella gear and do moderate > sail repairs. > > Sailrite may be the best option, but I would rather save some money. > > Is this possible? Anyone out there know of a cheaper machine that is > adquate. From a commerical machine point of view, the Sailrite is > quite inexpensive, but I won't use it much and am always thinking > about a way to save a buck these days. > > Wilkie > >

Allen Edwards wrote: > > > Do you need a walking foot to sew Sumbrella? I use a 100 year old > White for Sumbrella, and in fact did my Naugahyde cabin cushions with > it, zippers and all. Just ordered some stronger thread from Sailrite > as that has been my biggest problem with the Sumbrella stuff. I don't > have zigzag or reverse but have not had a problem with anything. I > obviously could not sew a sail or anything with that kind > of precision requirement. But if you really want to save money, use > your existing machine on the Sumbrella and repair your sails by hand. > That said, I have looked at those Sailrite machines and tried > unsuccessfully to justify buying one myself. Let me know how you like > it once you get it. I'm in Allen's camp. I have a couple old cast-iron portable home sewing machines from the 1920s that I have used for sail covers, car upholstery, clothing repairs, and so on. There is a limit to how many layers of fabric you can stitch but since the total investment in the two machines was about $10, I tolerate their deficiencies. You can do usable work this way. And like both of you guys, I have harbored secret lust for one of those tricked-out Sailrite machines, just as I hanker after all manner of woodworking tools, fancy welders, and similar toys. Then reality intrudes, and I recall the cost of two boats, and the time I spend sailing, and I suppress the desires. Chris Campbell >

Not at all. I've successfully sewed Sunbrella with an old Singer machine. Looks just like the local commercial guy's stuff. I think where you need a heavier machine is when you start building stuff with more than two or three layers. It's possible that I don't know my limitations or have not thought out far enough to determine if I really need a bigger machine or not but I'm pretty talented at scheming excuses and I'm selling off some musical gear and don't want to throw the money back into the general budget. ?? There is walking foot and there is walking foot, I have recently learned, and the Sailrite machines aren't going to clamp onto really thick stuff like leather as well as the kind of commercial machine that an upholsterer works with. I was thinking about building a companionway dodger and a deck bag for my dingy and stuff like that, which would be heavier layers with leather trim. Hoping the Sailrite makes that possible/easier. I was hoping to do some sail repairs with the zig-zag stitch. My friend invited me over to use his commercial machine, but the walking foot was broken and it was really messy trying to do a sail repair on it. Would have come out nicer doing it by hand. I just did a hand repair on one of my cruising sails for last weekend's Island Trip! Took me about 2 1/2 hours to do what I've done with a machine in a couple of minutes. It was fun, though. The walking foot is an issue for sail repair, but maybe even more of a problem is the depth of the throat on those machines. I'll let you know how I like the Sailrite machine and what capabilities it opens up for me. I ordered one last night. I chose a new Sailrite over a used XXXX because I wanted the support and didn't want to end up like my friend with an expensive broken machine that I don't want to spend the money to repair. Faulty logic? Time will tell. I have 3 genoas in good shape that need to be converted to a #6 luff, and I figure that pays for about half of the machine. Wilkie On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: > Do you need a walking foot to sew Sumbrella? I use a 100 year old > White for Sumbrella, and in fact did my Naugahyde cabin cushions > with it, zippers and all. Just ordered some stronger thread from > Sailrite as that has been my biggest problem with the Sumbrella > stuff. I don't have zigzag or reverse but have not had a problem > with anything. I obviously could not sew a sail or anything with > that kind of precision requirement. But if you really want to save > money, use your existing machine on the Sumbrella and repair your > sails by hand. That said, I have looked at those Sailrite machines > and tried unsuccessfully to justify buying one myself. Let me know > how you like it once you get it. > > > Allen > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM, David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> > wrote: > > > I have enough skill with a sewing machine (don't ask) that I've been > thinking for a couple of years about pulling the trigger on a walking > foot sewing machine to build my own Sunbrella gear and do moderate > sail repairs. > > Sailrite may be the best option, but I would rather save some money. > > Is this possible? Anyone out there know of a cheaper machine that is > adquate. From a commerical machine point of view, the Sailrite is > quite inexpensive, but I won't use it much and am always thinking > about a way to save a buck these days. > > Wilkie > > > > >

I happened to build a little sumbrella cover for some openings in the companionway doors yesterday. The thickest part was at the corners where the two folded seams came together. That was either at or past the limit of the machine although it did sew it. That would be 6 layers. I also re-stitched my tiller cover that has stick on velcro on it. It was very difficult to sew the first time as the thread kept breaking. The important thing to share was how much better it was using the new thread I just got. I used V-69 thread and #18 needles. This made sewing so much easier than the heaviest thread from Jo-Ann Fabrics (I tried them all). With the normal thread, it would break when the fabric got too thick or when sewing through the stick-on Velcro. No problem at all yesterday and the stuff is obviously much stronger. So if you are going to use your home machine to do any sewing, get some V-69 thread and appropriate needles. Allen On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:52 AM, David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> wrote: > > > > > Not at all. I've successfully sewed Sunbrella with an old Singer machine. > Looks just like the local commercial guy's stuff. I think where you need a > heavier machine is when you start building stuff with more than two or three > layers. It's possible that I don't know my limitations or have not thought > out far enough to determine if I really need a bigger machine or not but I'm > pretty talented at scheming excuses and I'm selling off some musical gear > and don't want to throw the money back into the general budget. ?? > > There is walking foot and there is walking foot, I have recently learned, > and the Sailrite machines aren't going to clamp onto really thick stuff like > leather as well as the kind of commercial machine that an upholsterer works > with. I was thinking about building a companionway dodger and a deck bag > for my dingy and stuff like that, which would be heavier layers with leather > trim. Hoping the Sailrite makes that possible/easier. > > I was hoping to do some sail repairs with the zig-zag stitch. My friend > invited me over to use his commercial machine, but the walking foot was > broken and it was really messy trying to do a sail repair on it. Would have > come out nicer doing it by hand. > > I just did a hand repair on one of my cruising sails for last weekend's > Island Trip! Took me about 2 1/2 hours to do what I've done with a machine > in a couple of minutes. It was fun, though. The walking foot is an issue > for sail repair, but maybe even more of a problem is the depth of the throat > on those machines. > > I'll let you know how I like the Sailrite machine and what capabilities it > opens up for me. I ordered one last night. I chose a new Sailrite over a > used XXXX because I wanted the support and didn't want to end up like my > friend with an expensive broken machine that I don't want to spend the money > to repair. Faulty logic? Time will tell. I have 3 genoas in good shape > that need to be converted to a #6 luff, and I figure that pays for about > half of the machine. > > Wilkie > > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: > > Do you need a walking foot to sew Sumbrella? I use a 100 year old White > for Sumbrella, and in fact did my Naugahyde cabin cushions with it, zippers > and all. Just ordered some stronger thread from Sailrite as that has been > my biggest problem with the Sumbrella stuff. I don't have zigzag or reverse > but have not had a problem with anything. I obviously could not sew a sail > or anything with that kind of precision requirement. But if you really want > to save money, use your existing machine on the Sumbrella and repair your > sails by hand. That said, I have looked at those Sailrite machines and > tried unsuccessfully to justify buying one myself. Let me know how you like > it once you get it. > > Allen > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM, David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> wrote: > >> >> >> >> I have enough skill with a sewing machine (don't ask) that I've been >> thinking for a couple of years about pulling the trigger on a walking >> foot sewing machine to build my own Sunbrella gear and do moderate >> sail repairs. >> >> Sailrite may be the best option, but I would rather save some money. >> >> Is this possible? Anyone out there know of a cheaper machine that is >> adquate. From a commerical machine point of view, the Sailrite is >> quite inexpensive, but I won't use it much and am always thinking >> about a way to save a buck these days. >> >> Wilkie >> > > > > >

Allen has some of the answers needed to make this work. I have made a sail cove, bimini and various boat bags, lee cloths and other accessories for our Cal 33. All out of sunbrella and other awning fabrics, purchased from a good fabric outlet. Another key is to use UV protected Dacron thread! Regular cotton or Dacron thread will not hold up for canvas work. Oh, the machine was my mom's 70s vintage Kenmore machine, it does zig-zag as well as other fancy stitches. Sharp #18 needles are a must. Also be sure the velco is UV resistant also. Get the non-self stick kind if possible. The adhesive will gum up the needle and cause the tension to go to the wrong side, break threads, etc. I went to the local Community College and took a course in upholstery. I was able to learn to sew on commercial machines, and after the second session was able to make new cushions for the main cabin. Not only did I learn to sew, I had great equipment, sewing machines, foam cutters, staple guns, etc, free to use. I could buy the materials from the discount houses, and had access to better materials than available on a retail market. Plus, my sister got a new couch, and we have a new chair for the Boudoir, my MIL had her chaise lounge recovered, and my daughter now has four really nice upholstered dining room chairs. All for the cost of the classes! The instructors did have a hard time understanding why I wanted "boat cushions" that had regular upholstery fabric instead of waterproof naugahyde or vinyl. YMMV john From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:07 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines I happened to build a little sumbrella cover for some openings in the companionway doors yesterday. The thickest part was at the corners where the two folded seams came together. That was either at or past the limit of the machine although it did sew it. That would be 6 layers. I also re-stitched my tiller cover that has stick on velcro on it. It was very difficult to sew the first time as the thread kept breaking. The important thing to share was how much better it was using the new thread I just got. I used V-69 thread and #18 needles. This made sewing so much easier than the heaviest thread from Jo-Ann Fabrics (I tried them all). With the normal thread, it would break when the fabric got too thick or when sewing through the stick-on Velcro. No problem at all yesterday and the stuff is obviously much stronger. So if you are going to use your home machine to do any sewing, get some V-69 thread and appropriate needles. Allen On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:52 AM, David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> wrote: Not at all. I've successfully sewed Sunbrella with an old Singer machine. Looks just like the local commercial guy's stuff. I think where you need a heavier machine is when you start building stuff with more than two or three layers. It's possible that I don't know my limitations or have not thought out far enough to determine if I really need a bigger machine or not but I'm pretty talented at scheming excuses and I'm selling off some musical gear and don't want to throw the money back into the general budget. ?? There is walking foot and there is walking foot, I have recently learned, and the Sailrite machines aren't going to clamp onto really thick stuff like leather as well as the kind of commercial machine that an upholsterer works with. I was thinking about building a companionway dodger and a deck bag for my dingy and stuff like that, which would be heavier layers with leather trim. Hoping the Sailrite makes that possible/easier. I was hoping to do some sail repairs with the zig-zag stitch. My friend invited me over to use his commercial machine, but the walking foot was broken and it was really messy trying to do a sail repair on it. Would have come out nicer doing it by hand. I just did a hand repair on one of my cruising sails for last weekend's Island Trip! Took me about 2 1/2 hours to do what I've done with a machine in a couple of minutes. It was fun, though. The walking foot is an issue for sail repair, but maybe even more of a problem is the depth of the throat on those machines. I'll let you know how I like the Sailrite machine and what capabilities it opens up for me. I ordered one last night. I chose a new Sailrite over a used XXXX because I wanted the support and didn't want to end up like my friend with an expensive broken machine that I don't want to spend the money to repair. Faulty logic? Time will tell. I have 3 genoas in good shape that need to be converted to a #6 luff, and I figure that pays for about half of the machine. Wilkie On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: Do you need a walking foot to sew Sumbrella? I use a 100 year old White for Sumbrella, and in fact did my Naugahyde cabin cushions with it, zippers and all. Just ordered some stronger thread from Sailrite as that has been my biggest problem with the Sumbrella stuff. I don't have zigzag or reverse but have not had a problem with anything. I obviously could not sew a sail or anything with that kind of precision requirement. But if you really want to save money, use your existing machine on the Sumbrella and repair your sails by hand. That said, I have looked at those Sailrite machines and tried unsuccessfully to justify buying one myself. Let me know how you like it once you get it. Allen On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM, David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> wrote: I have enough skill with a sewing machine (don't ask) that I've been thinking for a couple of years about pulling the trigger on a walking foot sewing machine to build my own Sunbrella gear and do moderate sail repairs. Sailrite may be the best option, but I would rather save some money. Is this possible? Anyone out there know of a cheaper machine that is adquate. From a commerical machine point of view, the Sailrite is quite inexpensive, but I won't use it much and am always thinking about a way to save a buck these days. Wilkie

hey guys i know this isnt a for sale site but we do have a big consew 206 machine and a porta base motor which make it as portable as this machine can be will sew multiple thickness sunbrella also leather wife did canvas repair it worked great make an offer trades sail,machinery epoxy teak im wide open will sell fot cash too From: john raxter <jr… [at] triad.rr.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 8:15:21 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines Allen has some of the answers needed to make this work. I have made a sail cove, bimini and various boat bags, lee cloths and other accessories for our Cal 33. All out of sunbrella and other awning fabrics, purchased from a good fabric outlet. Another key is to use UV protected Dacron thread! Regular cotton or Dacron thread will not hold up for canvas work. Oh, the machine was my mom’s 70s vintage Kenmore machine, it does zig-zag as well as other fancy stitches. Sharp #18 needles are a must. Also be sure the velco is UV resistant also. Get the non-self stick kind if possible. The adhesive will gum up the needle and cause the tension to go to the wrong side, break threads, etc. I went to the local Community College and took a course in upholstery. I was able to learn to sew on commercial machines, and after the second session was able to make new cushions for the main cabin. Not only did I learn to sew, I had great equipment, sewing machines, foam cutters, staple guns, etc, free to use. I could buy the materials from the discount houses, and had access to better materials than available on a retail market. Plus, my sister got a new couch, and we have a new chair for the Boudoir, my MIL had her chaise lounge recovered, and my daughter now has four really nice upholstered dining room chairs. All for the cost of the classes! The instructors did have a hard time understanding why I wanted “boat cushions” that had regular upholstery fabric instead of waterproof naugahyde or vinyl. YMMV john From:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:07 AM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines I happened to build a little sumbrella cover for some openings in the companionway doors yesterday. The thickest part was at the corners where the two folded seams came together. That was either at or past the limit of the machine although it did sew it. That would be 6 layers. I also re-stitched my tiller cover that has stick on velcro on it. It was very difficult to sew the first time as the thread kept breaking. The important thing to share was how much better it was using the new thread I just got. I used V-69 thread and #18 needles. This made sewing so much easier than the heaviest thread from Jo-Ann Fabrics (I tried them all). With the normal thread, it would break when the fabric got too thick or when sewing through the stick-on Velcro. No problem at all yesterday and the stuff is obviously much stronger. So if you are going to use your home machine to do any sewing, get some V-69 thread and appropriate needles. Allen On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:52 AM, David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> wrote: Not at all. I've successfully sewed Sunbrella with an old Singer machine. Looks just like the local commercial guy's stuff. I think where you need a heavier machine is when you start building stuff with more than two or three layers. It's possible that I don't know my limitations or have not thought out far enough to determine if I really need a bigger machine or not but I'm pretty talented at scheming excuses and I'm selling off some musical gear and don't want to throw the money back into the general budget. ?? There is walking foot and there is walking foot, I have recently learned, and the Sailrite machines aren't going to clamp onto really thick stuff like leather as well as the kind of commercial machine that an upholsterer works with. I was thinking about building a companionway dodger and a deck bag for my dingy and stuff like that, which would be heavier layers with leather trim. Hoping the Sailrite makes that possible/easier. I was hoping to do some sail repairs with the zig-zag stitch. My friend invited me over to use his commercial machine, but the walking foot was broken and it was really messy trying to do a sail repair on it. Would have come out nicer doing it by hand. I just did a hand repair on one of my cruising sails for last weekend's Island Trip! Took me about 2 1/2 hours to do what I've done with a machine in a couple of minutes. It was fun, though. The walking foot is an issue for sail repair, but maybe even more of a problem is the depth of the throat on those machines. I'll let you know how I like the Sailrite machine and what capabilities it opens up for me. I ordered one last night. I chose a new Sailrite over a used XXXX because I wanted the support and didn't want to end up like my friend with an expensive broken machine that I don't want to spend the money to repair. Faulty logic? Time will tell. I have 3 genoas in good shape that need to be converted to a #6 luff, and I figure that pays for about half of the machine. Wilkie On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >Do you need a walking foot to sew Sumbrella? I use a 100 >year old White for Sumbrella, and in fact did my Naugahyde cabin >cushions with it, zippers and all. Just ordered some stronger thread from >Sailrite as that has been my biggest problem with the Sumbrella stuff. I >don't have zigzag or reverse but have not had a problem with anything. I >obviously could not sew a sail or anything with that kind >of precision requirement. But if you really want to save money, >use your existing machine on the Sumbrella and repair your sails by hand. > That said, I have looked at those Sailrite machines and tried >unsuccessfully to justify buying one myself. Let me know how you like it >once you get it. >> > >> >Allen >> >On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM, >David Wilkie Owen <dw… [at] cox.net> wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >>I have enough skill with a sewing machine (don't ask) that I've been >>thinking for a couple of years about pulling the trigger on a walking >>foot sewing machine to build my own Sunbrella gear and do moderate >>sail repairs. > >>Sailrite may be the best option, but I would rather save some money. > >>Is this possible? Anyone out there know of a cheaper machine that is >>adquate. From a commerical machine point of view, the Sailrite is >>quite inexpensive, but I won't use it much and am always thinking >>about a way to save a buck these days. > >>Wilkie > >> >

Gene, The Consew 206 is a good machine. They don't zig-zag but they are pretty versatile nonetheless. I'll contact you off-list Mike M. On 4/22/2010 8:30 PM, gene ulmer wrote: > > hey guys i know this isnt a for sale site but we do have a big consew > 206 machine and a porta base motor which make it as portable as this > machine can be will sew multiple thickness sunbrella also leather > wife did canvas repair it worked great make an offer trades > sail,machinery epoxy teak im wide open will sell fot cash too >

sure i just need it out of the way im looking for a zigzag will consider interesting trades good sails for my cc46 gene From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 8:58:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines Gene, The Consew 206 is a good machine. They don't zig-zag but they are pretty versatile nonetheless. I'll contact you off-list Mike M. On 4/22/2010 8:30 PM, gene ulmer wrote: > >hey guys i know this isnt a for sale site but we do have a big >consew 206 machine and a porta base motor which make it as portable as >this machine can be will sew multiple thickness sunbrella also leather >wife did canvas repair it worked great make an offer trades >sail,machinery epoxy teak im wide open will sell fot cash too > > >

Gene, Apparently my message to you off-list didn't go through... Maybe its in your spam box. Anyway, Right now I am working as crew aboard an 85' gaff rigged ketch on the hard and getting some necessary work done. I'm nowhere near home so don't have anything interesting to trade. I was wondering how much cash you think is fair for the machine. Beth and I have a lot of canvas work to do on our boat in addition to everything else, and I know how to use that machine. It would help us out a lot. We currently have a Kenmore zig-zag that works well for thin fabrics but won't be able to handle a dodger cover. I re-covered our V-berth cushions and it came out OK. Only broke a couple needles. Anyway, contact me off-list, mikeatwahinidotorg and let me know. By the way, Are you in Seattle? Beth was there for some school that Crowley is sending her to and she says she saw a Cal-46 working its way out on Lake Union the other day. It wasn't /Jack of Hearts/. So we were wondering if it was you. Mike On 4/25/2010 10:20 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > > sure i just need it out of the way im looking for a zigzag will > consider interesting trades good sails for my cc46 > gene >

no im in virginia right now ill take 450 from you guys where are you now i could meet you somewhere close you pay shipping this machine is an animal my boat is ramblin rose former shankara if you are near east coast i would mind meeting you somewhere close gene From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 10:40:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines Gene, Apparently my message to you off-list didn't go through... Maybe its in your spam box. Anyway, Right now I am working as crew aboard an 85' gaff rigged ketch on the hard and getting some necessary work done. I'm nowhere near home so don't have anything interesting to trade. I was wondering how much cash you think is fair for the machine. Beth and I have a lot of canvas work to do on our boat in addition to everything else, and I know how to use that machine. It would help us out a lot. We currently have a Kenmore zig-zag that works well for thin fabrics but won't be able to handle a dodger cover. I re-covered our V-berth cushions and it came out OK. Only broke a couple needles. Anyway, contact me off-list, mikeatwahinidotorg and let me know. By the way, Are you in Seattle? Beth was there for some school that Crowley is sending her to and she says she saw a Cal-46 working its way out on Lake Union the other day. It wasn't Jack of Hearts. So we were wondering if it was you. Mike On 4/25/2010 10:20 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > >sure >i just need it out of the way im looking for a zigzag will consider >interesting trades good sails for my cc46 >>gene > >

I'm in Beaufort, NC for now. I'm trying to get this behemoth ready to splash. We will be sailing around Hatteras and get into Norfolk around the 1st of June, or so. Is that close enough to you? Mike M. On 4/25/2010 11:01 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > > no im in virginia right now ill take 450 from you guys where are you > now i could meet you somewhere close you pay shipping this machine is > an animal my boat is ramblin rose former shankara if you are near > east coast i would mind meeting you somewhere close > gene > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sun, April 25, 2010 10:40:26 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines > > > > Gene, > Apparently my message to you off-list didn't go through... Maybe its > in your spam box. Anyway, Right now I am working as crew aboard an 85' > gaff rigged ketch on the hard and getting some necessary work done. > I'm nowhere near home so don't have anything interesting to trade. I > was wondering how much cash you think is fair for the machine. Beth > and I have a lot of canvas work to do on our boat in addition to > everything else, and I know how to use that machine. It would help us > out a lot. We currently have a Kenmore zig-zag that works well for > thin fabrics but won't be able to handle a dodger cover. I re-covered > our V-berth cushions and it came out OK. Only broke a couple needles. > Anyway, contact me off-list, mikeatwahinidotorg and let me know. > By the way, Are you in Seattle? Beth was there for some school that > Crowley is sending her to and she says she saw a Cal-46 working its > way out on Lake Union the other day. It wasn't /Jack of Hearts/. So we > were wondering if it was you. > Mike > > On 4/25/2010 10:20 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > >> >> sure i just need it out of the way im looking for a zigzag will >> consider interesting trades good sails for my cc46 >> gene >> > >

sure hell i could drive to beaufort in may gotta have a heart cath friday and a funeral in may sometime but just keep in touch to late to get in a hurry gene From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 11:06:23 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines I'm in Beaufort, NC for now. I'm trying to get this behemoth ready to splash. We will be sailing around Hatteras and get into Norfolk around the 1st of June, or so. Is that close enough to you? Mike M. On 4/25/2010 11:01 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > >no >im in virginia right now ill take 450 from you guys where are you now i >could meet you somewhere close you pay shipping this machine is an >animal my boat is ramblin rose former shankara if you are near east >coast i would mind meeting you somewhere close >>gene > > > > > > From: >mike <mike@wahini. org> >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Sun, April 25, >2010 10:40:26 AM >Subject: Re: >[Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines > > >Gene, >>Apparently my message to you off-list didn't go through... Maybe its in >your spam box. Anyway, Right now I am working as crew aboard an 85' >gaff rigged ketch on the hard and getting some necessary work done. I'm >nowhere near home so don't have anything interesting to trade. I was >wondering how much cash you think is fair for the machine. Beth and I >have a lot of canvas work to do on our boat in addition to everything >else, and I know how to use that machine. It would help us out a lot. >We currently have a Kenmore zig-zag that works well for thin fabrics >but won't be able to handle a dodger cover. I re-covered our V-berth >cushions and it came out OK. Only broke a couple needles. >>Anyway, contact me off-list, mikeatwahinidotorg and let me know. >>By the way, Are you in Seattle? Beth was there for some school that >Crowley is sending her to and she says she saw a Cal-46 working its way >out on Lake Union the other day. It wasn't Jack of Hearts. So >we were wondering if it was you. >>Mike > >>On 4/25/2010 10:20 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > > >>sure >>i >>just need it out of the way im looking for a zigzag will consider >>interesting trades good sails for my cc46 >>>>gene >> >> >

yes thats fine could also go to beaufort i have no real schedule im having a heart cath friday and a funeral in may sometime other than that im wide open gene From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 11:06:23 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines I'm in Beaufort, NC for now. I'm trying to get this behemoth ready to splash. We will be sailing around Hatteras and get into Norfolk around the 1st of June, or so. Is that close enough to you? Mike M. On 4/25/2010 11:01 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > >no >im in virginia right now ill take 450 from you guys where are you now i >could meet you somewhere close you pay shipping this machine is an >animal my boat is ramblin rose former shankara if you are near east >coast i would mind meeting you somewhere close >>gene > > > > > > From: >mike <mike@wahini. org> >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Sun, April 25, >2010 10:40:26 AM >Subject: Re: >[Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines > > >Gene, >>Apparently my message to you off-list didn't go through... Maybe its in >your spam box. Anyway, Right now I am working as crew aboard an 85' >gaff rigged ketch on the hard and getting some necessary work done. I'm >nowhere near home so don't have anything interesting to trade. I was >wondering how much cash you think is fair for the machine. Beth and I >have a lot of canvas work to do on our boat in addition to everything >else, and I know how to use that machine. It would help us out a lot. >We currently have a Kenmore zig-zag that works well for thin fabrics >but won't be able to handle a dodger cover. I re-covered our V-berth >cushions and it came out OK. Only broke a couple needles. >>Anyway, contact me off-list, mikeatwahinidotorg and let me know. >>By the way, Are you in Seattle? Beth was there for some school that >Crowley is sending her to and she says she saw a Cal-46 working its way >out on Lake Union the other day. It wasn't Jack of Hearts. So >we were wondering if it was you. >>Mike > >>On 4/25/2010 10:20 AM, gene ulmer wrote: > > >>sure >>i >>just need it out of the way im looking for a zigzag will consider >>interesting trades good sails for my cc46 >>>>gene >> >> >

Gene, Sorry to hear about the heart catheterization and the funeral you have to attend. I hope it turns out well for you. It's such a routine procedure anymore that I'm sure you will be fine. I'll raise a beer to you in the hope that I'm right. BTW, I wrote in more detail concerning the sewing machine off list. Take care. Mike M. On 4/25/2010 1:55 PM, gene ulmer wrote: > > yes thats fine could also go to beaufort i have no real schedule im > having a heart cath friday and a funeral in may sometime other than > that im wide open > gene > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sun, April 25, 2010 11:06:23 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Sewing Machines > > > > I'm in Beaufort, NC for now. I'm trying to get this behemoth ready to > splash. We will be sailing around Hatteras and get into Norfolk around > the 1st of June, or so. Is that close enough to you? > Mike M. >

mike wrote: > > > Gene, > Sorry to hear about the heart catheterization and the funeral you have > to attend. I hope it turns out well for you. It's such a routine > procedure anymore that I'm sure you will be fine. I'll second the endorsement of cardiac catheterization. It's as close to a pure miracle as anything these days. Almost a year ago, I got three stents poked into my heart. It's fast, painless, and you get waited on hand & foot. The doc said "ten years ago, you would have been having open heart surgery." No, thank you, I'll take the stents. Miraculous. Chris Campbell