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Greets: Was wondering if anyone has any experience with pulling an A-4 from either a Cal2-29 or 3-39. I would like to complete the work needed on the cabin floor rather then remove the engine off the boat completely. Recommendations or procedures would be helpful. Best regards and many thanks -- /ch

No pics, but back when I had an A4, it was relatively easy, even for a mechanical idiot such as myself. I made myself a piece of plywood and a piece of big cardboard cut to fit on the cabin floor to protect it. Disconnected everything and labelled everything carefully. All parts in plastic baggies, carefully labeled. Used a chain hoist through bolted to several 2 x 12s made to fit on the companionway hatch (bottom one smaller so that it fit inside the track and held it in place. Once engine was attached with some line to the hoist it could be wrestled up a couple of short 2x4s and over the bukjhead in front of the battery compartment. By the way the batteries had to be removed for this operation. Move it to the cabin floor and set it down. Reverse procedure to reinstall. Terry Spencer Cal 2-29 Capriccio Tacoma On Jun 17, 2010, at 5:10 AM, chris123 wrote: > Greets: > > Was wondering if anyone has any experience with pulling an A-4 from > either a Cal2-29 or 3-39. I would like to complete the work needed on > the cabin floor rather then remove the engine off the boat completely. > Recommendations or procedures would be helpful. > > Best regards and many thanks > > -- > /ch >

Comments in line: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Terry Spencer <ts… [at] harbornet.com>wrote: > > > No pics, but back when I had an A4, it was relatively easy, even for a > mechanical idiot such as myself. > > Necessity is the mother of invention...there are not idiots in my book...just fools sometimes:) > I made myself a piece of plywood and a piece of big cardboard cut to fit on > the cabin floor to protect it. > Yup thats what I was thinking...supported on some scarfed 2x6 to take out the curvature of the floor and distribute the weight evenly. > Disconnected everything and labelled everything carefully. All parts in > plastic baggies, carefully labeled. > > Like the baggie theme... > Used a chain hoist through bolted to several 2 x 12s made to fit on the > companionway hatch (bottom one smaller so that it fit inside the track and > held it in place. > > Can you explain this part a bit more as it seems to me the engine attachment points are too far to the rear of the companionway to make it a direct lift. Perhaps Im wrong but this is my major stumbling block as Im working out this problem: boat is in NJ and well Im not...:) My plan is to plan all this out ahead of time before getting to the boat is Sept and then modifying as necessary. > Once engine was attached with some line to the hoist it could be wrestled > up a couple of short 2x4s and over the bukjhead in front of the battery > compartment. > > Could you not simply slide it forward as the stringers (engine mounts) on the 3-29 run right up too that bulkhead at the same elevation. Question is do you remove the engine from the mounts or remove the mounts from the stringers and slide the entire contraption forward? Im thinking the latter is easier for removal but the former easier for assembly. The last issue I need to figure out is how to disconnect the shaft from the transmission. All this work to change the main shaft bearing on the transmission as its toast and spewing oil. Like this kind of work however. > By the way the batteries had to be removed for this operation. > > Mine are in a separate battery chamber that is not in front of the engine so they are not a factor. > Move it to the cabin floor and set it down. > > Yup.... > Reverse procedure to reinstall. > > Did you pull the engine mounts or remove the engine from the mounts? > Terry Spencer > Cal 2-29 > Capriccio > Tacoma > > > Many thanks Terry. -- /ch

Chris, I am currently in the process of repowering my Cal 2-29 with a Beta 16 I've had it in out twice with ease. In fact I just did it the second time this morning. I used a chain hoist attached to my boom/main halyard at the mid section of the boom right above the engine compartment. Then I use two 2x4s to help slide the engine in and out. Once its out I just put on a pallet on the floor. I'm lowering the stringers to make the Beta fit in case you were wondering why I've done this twice already. The Beta weighs about 210 lbs. Hope this helps, Frans Seattle WA From: chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 5:10:02 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL-29 Greets: Was wondering if anyone has any experience with pulling an A-4 from either a Cal2-29 or 3-39. I would like to complete the work needed on the cabin floor rather then remove the engine off the boat completely. Recommendations or procedures would be helpful. Best regards and many thanks -- /ch

Cool....that does help. The other resource I dug up is moyers forum where the same method is described. Getting more confident this can be done rather simply once the engine is disconnected from fuel, water, exhaust and electrical. Many thanks as always. Chris H.

Chris, Here is what we used on Magic when we pulled the 5411 during repower. Once the engine was "free", I merely slid it forward onto the sled that I built from 2x4's. We lifted the engine through the companion way using the main halyard and control lines. I have not had the pleasure of looking at a 29' configuration, so I don't know if this will work for you.... --Michael-- From: chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 8:43:43 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL-29 Cool....that does help. The other resource I dug up is moyers forum where the same method is described. Getting more confident this can be done rather simply once the engine is disconnected from fuel, water, exhaust and electrical. Many thanks as always. Chris H.

On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:28 AM, chris123 wrote: > Comments in line: > > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Terry Spencer <ts… [at] harbornet.com> wrote: > > > No pics, but back when I had an A4, it was relatively easy, even for a mechanical idiot such as myself. > > Necessity is the mother of invention...there are not idiots in my book...just fools sometimes:) > > I made myself a piece of plywood and a piece of big cardboard cut to fit on the cabin floor to protect it. > > Yup thats what I was thinking...supported on some scarfed 2x6 to take out the curvature of the floor and distribute the weight evenly. > The scarfed wood is overkill. The engine is about the weight of 1 1/2 crew members and 1/4 inch plywood will help distribute and curve to the floor. > Disconnected everything and labelled everything carefully. All parts in plastic baggies, carefully labeled. > > Like the baggie theme... > > Used a chain hoist through bolted to several 2 x 12s made to fit on the companionway hatch (bottom one smaller so that it fit inside the track and held it in place. > > Can you explain this part a bit more as it seems to me the engine attachment points are too far to the rear of the companionway to make it a direct lift. Perhaps Im wrong but this is my major stumbling block as Im working out this problem: boat is in NJ and well Im not...:) My plan is to plan all this out ahead of time before getting to the boat is Sept and then modifying as necessary. If you attach a couple of 2 x 12s in parallel so that when laid across the top of the companionway hatch, the top one lays on top of the track for the hatch, whilst the bottom one fits inside the space. It then will slide fore and aft. The hoist takes some of the weight off and makes it easier to slide the engine up and over the low bulkhead. I suppose it could be done without this aid, but this way was really easy to handle if. > > Once engine was attached with some line to the hoist it could be wrestled up a couple of short 2x4s and over the bukjhead in front of the battery compartment. > > Could you not simply slide it forward as the stringers (engine mounts) on the 3-29 run right up too that bulkhead at the same elevation. Question is do you remove the engine from the mounts or remove the mounts from the stringers and slide the entire contraption forward? I think removed the engine from the mounts, but it has been so long ago, I am not sure about this point. > Im thinking the latter is easier for removal but the former easier for assembly. > > The last issue I need to figure out is how to disconnect the shaft from the transmission. If you mean disconnecting the prop shaft, it entails disconnecting the coupling. It will be obvious when you look at it. Good luck. > All this work to change the main shaft bearing on the transmission as its toast and spewing oil. Like this kind of work however. > > By the way the batteries had to be removed for this operation. > > Mine are in a separate battery chamber that is not in front of the engine so they are not a factor. > > Move it to the cabin floor and set it down. > > Yup.... > > Reverse procedure to reinstall. > > Did you pull the engine mounts or remove the engine from the mounts? > > Terry Spencer > Cal 2-29 > Capriccio > Tacoma > > > Many thanks Terry. > > > -- > /ch > >

Yup thats nice. It should work as with the 3-29 the engine support stringers run right to the bulkhead. The only concern I have as i will be working on the engine in the cabin (boat is on stands) is that the pan has developed a small crack in the left corner of your picture. So I would add some support to the pan to ensure that that crack does not expand. I guess I could fix it first, but that would just add to the todo list and as its minor not worth the effort at this time.