Original Cal 28 mainsail size

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail for a Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files section but couldn't make out the numbers. The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches almost to the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef it to make it so it's tight. Thanks for any info... --Jim

Reef? or flattening reef and/or cunningham? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ji… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 05:40:06 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Original Cal 28 mainsail size Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail for a Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files section but couldn't make out the numbers. The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches almost to the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef it to make it so it's tight. Thanks for any info... --Jim

I would think a sailmaker could cut 4 inches off the foot and re-install the rings without too much expense. You could even go to loose foot and dispense with the slides/rope. That said, getting new sails are a lot like getting a new boat. Allen On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Reef? or flattening reef and/or cunningham? > Reggie > > ------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: ji… [at] yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 05:40:06 +0000 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Original Cal 28 mainsail size > > > Hi, > > I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail for a > Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files section but > couldn't make out the numbers. > > The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 > footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches almost to > the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef it to make it so > it's tight. > > Thanks for any info... > > --Jim > > > >

Jim, Do you have an adjustable gooseneck on a track? Can it come down further? When I was learning to sail on my 25, I had to take the slack out of the main with my cunningham until I figured out that the gooseneck was 'locked' in position with a knob. The boom height was set so the pop top could open without banging the rigid boom vang. I was able to drop it about 3 more inches and didn't have to use the cunningham anymore, except when racing to windward, but needed to fiddle with the gooseneck to open the top. Everything is a compromise, it seems... Mike M. On 5/24/2010 10:38 AM, r good wrote: > > > Reef? or flattening reef and/or cunningham? > Reggie > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: ji… [at] yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 05:40:06 +0000 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Original Cal 28 mainsail size > > > Hi, > > I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail > for a Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files > section but couldn't make out the numbers. > > The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 > footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches > almost to the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef > it to make it so it's tight. > > Thanks for any info... > > --Jim

Hi Mike, Yes, it does have an adjustable gooseneck on a track. When fully deployed, the gooseneck is pulled down to the bottom position with the cunningham and the sail is still a little slack on the mast. I found that if I hook the cunningham hook to the lowest reef point, I can get the sail tight. The sail has the number 29595 on it. I don't know how they number sails, but the numbers make me suspect that it was made for a 29 footer. I could get the sail cut down, but it's kind of old and I was thinking of replacing it. But without the original dimensions, it's a little bit of a guess trying to give dimensions to a sail maker or to look for a good used one. So if anyone has the original dimensions, that would be great. Reggie, I'm not sure what you're asking as I am a little new to this... The sail has 2 main reef points which work great. Besides the tack, it has another grommet around 4 inches higher up on the sail, which I'm not sure of its function, except it works great to tighten the sail with the cunningham. --Jim --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike <mike@...> wrote: > > Jim, > Do you have an adjustable gooseneck on a track? Can it come down > further? When I was learning to sail on my 25, I had to take the slack > out of the main with my cunningham until I figured out that the > gooseneck was 'locked' in position with a knob. The boom height was set > so the pop top could open without banging the rigid boom vang. I was > able to drop it about 3 more inches and didn't have to use the > cunningham anymore, except when racing to windward, but needed to fiddle > with the gooseneck to open the top. Everything is a compromise, it seems... > Mike M. > > On 5/24/2010 10:38 AM, r good wrote: > > > > > > Reef? or flattening reef and/or cunningham? > > Reggie > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > From: jimskelton@... > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 05:40:06 +0000 > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Original Cal 28 mainsail size > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail > > for a Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files > > section but couldn't make out the numbers. > > > > The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 > > footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches > > almost to the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef > > it to make it so it's tight. > > > > Thanks for any info... > > > > --Jim >

Go to Baconsails.com and you will find the dimensions for your sails. The sail numbers you have have no relationship to the boat they are from. They are racing sail numbers issued by US Sailing I believe they are issued as they are requested. John B. CAL 227 #650 _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:08 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Original Cal 28 mainsail size Hi Mike, Yes, it does have an adjustable gooseneck on a track. When fully deployed, the gooseneck is pulled down to the bottom position with the cunningham and the sail is still a little slack on the mast. I found that if I hook the cunningham hook to the lowest reef point, I can get the sail tight. The sail has the number 29595 on it. I don't know how they number sails, but the numbers make me suspect that it was made for a 29 footer. I could get the sail cut down, but it's kind of old and I was thinking of replacing it. But without the original dimensions, it's a little bit of a guess trying to give dimensions to a sail maker or to look for a good used one. So if anyone has the original dimensions, that would be great. Reggie, I'm not sure what you're asking as I am a little new to this... The sail has 2 main reef points which work great. Besides the tack, it has another grommet around 4 inches higher up on the sail, which I'm not sure of its function, except it works great to tighten the sail with the cunningham. --Jim --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , mike <mike@...> wrote: > > Jim, > Do you have an adjustable gooseneck on a track? Can it come down > further? When I was learning to sail on my 25, I had to take the slack > out of the main with my cunningham until I figured out that the > gooseneck was 'locked' in position with a knob. The boom height was set > so the pop top could open without banging the rigid boom vang. I was > able to drop it about 3 more inches and didn't have to use the > cunningham anymore, except when racing to windward, but needed to fiddle > with the gooseneck to open the top. Everything is a compromise, it seems... > Mike M. > > On 5/24/2010 10:38 AM, r good wrote: > > > > > > Reef? or flattening reef and/or cunningham? > > Reggie > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > > From: jimskelton@... > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 05:40:06 +0000 > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Original Cal 28 mainsail size > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail > > for a Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files > > section but couldn't make out the numbers. > > > > The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 > > footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches > > almost to the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef > > it to make it so it's tight. > > > > Thanks for any info... > > > > --Jim >

http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/cal28sails.htm On 5/23/10, James <ji… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail for a > Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files section but > couldn't make out the numbers. > > The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 > footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches almost to > the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef it to make it so > it's tight. > > Thanks for any info... > > --Jim > > > -- Robert Bruce Stirling, II, Esq. 602.254.6638 602.460.5631 [Cell] 602-507-9445 [Fax] 520-302-5206 [Tucson] br… [at] stirlinglaw.com http://www.stirlinglaw.com/lawyers The information in this e-mail communication is Privileged and Confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the undersigned sender immediately and then delete this e-mail.

Jim, try this one. http://www.baconsails.com/sailsearch Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:40 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Original Cal 28 mainsail size Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the mainsail for a Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the files section but couldn't make out the numbers. The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches almost to the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to reef it to make it so it's tight. Thanks for any info... --Jim ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Jim, the 29595 is a PHRF number that has no connection to the boat type. Different regions are assigned different number blocks to try to prevent repetition of numbers. Do your mast and boom have black bands on it that are supposed set the limits of sail size? We scrupulously observe the bands in our CAL 25 one design racing. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:08 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Original Cal 28 mainsail size Hi Mike, Yes, it does have an adjustable gooseneck on a track. When fully deployed, the gooseneck is pulled down to the bottom position with the cunningham and the sail is still a little slack on the mast. I found that if I hook the cunningham hook to the lowest reef point, I can get the sail tight. The sail has the number 29595 on it. I don't know how they number sails, but the numbers make me suspect that it was made for a 29 footer. I could get the sail cut down, but it's kind of old and I was thinking of replacing it. But without the original dimensions, it's a little bit of a guess trying to give dimensions to a sail maker or to look for a good used one. So if anyone has the original dimensions, that would be great. Reggie, I'm not sure what you're asking as I am a little new to this... The sail has 2 main reef points which work great. Besides the tack, it has another grommet around 4 inches higher up on the sail, which I'm not sure of its function, except it works great to tighten the sail with the cunningham. --Jim --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike <mike@...> wrote: > > Jim, > Do you have an adjustable gooseneck on a track? Can it come down > further? When I was learning to sail on my 25, I had to take the slack > out of the main with my cunningham until I figured out that the > gooseneck was 'locked' in position with a knob. The boom height was > set so the pop top could open without banging the rigid boom vang. I > was able to drop it about 3 more inches and didn't have to use the > cunningham anymore, except when racing to windward, but needed to > fiddle with the gooseneck to open the top. Everything is a compromise, it seems... > Mike M. > > On 5/24/2010 10:38 AM, r good wrote: > > > > > > Reef? or flattening reef and/or cunningham? > > Reggie > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > From: jimskelton@... > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 05:40:06 +0000 > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Original Cal 28 mainsail size > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone knows the original dimensions of the > > mainsail for a Cal 28 flat top. I looked at the sketch posted in the > > files section but couldn't make out the numbers. > > > > The Cal 28 I bought has sails that look like they were made for a 29 > > footer. The main sail is around 4" too tall and the foot reaches > > almost to the end of the boom. When I use it, I normally have to > > reef it to make it so it's tight. > > > > Thanks for any info... > > > > --Jim > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Hello All. Summer sailing, is here on LI Sound, and I am heartily fed up of sailing smelling like a Coconut and as greasy as a French Fry! I have a 1976 Cal 2 27, tiller and unfortunately a very SUNNY cockpit. I have searched unsuccessfully for a Dodger and Bimini to fit my boat and save my toasting skin! So I figured I would reach out to the board an cross fingers. Does anyone have a surplus, unused, older needs refurbing, or even a newer, either or both of the above that would fit my old girl?? I would prefer a Stainless frame(s) but Aluminium would be equally as desirable. Cloth colour is not an issue. Boating on a budget, so something new & shiney is not quite in my budget. Drop me a line with price, location etc if anyone out there can help. Thanks! Steve M Cal 2 27 'Ocean Brats' Bridgeport (Black Rock) CT

I'd try Bacon's here in annap: www.baconsails.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Martin Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:07 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! Hello All. Summer sailing, is here on LI Sound, and I am heartily fed up of sailing smelling like a Coconut and as greasy as a French Fry! I have a 1976 Cal 2 27, tiller and unfortunately a very SUNNY cockpit. I have searched unsuccessfully for a Dodger and Bimini to fit my boat and save my toasting skin! So I figured I would reach out to the board an cross fingers. Does anyone have a surplus, unused, older needs refurbing, or even a newer, either or both of the above that would fit my old girl?? I would prefer a Stainless frame(s) but Aluminium would be equally as desirable. Cloth colour is not an issue. Boating on a budget, so something new & shiney is not quite in my budget. Drop me a line with price, location etc if anyone out there can help. Thanks! Steve M Cal 2 27 'Ocean Brats' Bridgeport (Black Rock) CT

Or maybe a different sun blocker? I feel your pain. Long races Sat and Sun under heat and sun conditions with a lot of light air. I hate putting on that goop, even when it does not small like coconuts. And even the "waterproof" ones run into your eyes when you sweat. There are some fast drying sunblocks I need to try. CAL 25 too small for a dodger or bimini. Cheers, Anyway Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rogers, Christopher C. Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:30 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! I'd try Bacon's here in annap: www.baconsails.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Martin Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:07 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! Hello All. Summer sailing, is here on LI Sound, and I am heartily fed up of sailing smelling like a Coconut and as greasy as a French Fry! I have a 1976 Cal 2 27, tiller and unfortunately a very SUNNY cockpit. I have searched unsuccessfully for a Dodger and Bimini to fit my boat and save my toasting skin! So I figured I would reach out to the board an cross fingers. Does anyone have a surplus, unused, older needs refurbing, or even a newer, either or both of the above that would fit my old girl?? I would prefer a Stainless frame(s) but Aluminium would be equally as desirable. Cloth colour is not an issue. Boating on a budget, so something new & shiney is not quite in my budget. Drop me a line with price, location etc if anyone out there can help. Thanks! Steve M Cal 2 27 'Ocean Brats' Bridgeport (Black Rock) CT

Cal-list friends: If anybody has burning questions about Cal 20 sailing in fresh water, please note that I'm suspending my list participation for a couple weeks while I head overseas for France. My diver put a new chain on my mooring, which allows for peace of mind while I'm gone. I'll row the dinghy out tonight, put an extra line on the tiller, check everything out, and then trust that we won't be affected by any freak storms here in the Great Lakes. We Great Lakes folks generally hate to travel in the summer months, the truly sweet season here in the midwest, but this is a good opportunity so off we go. Chris Campbell

Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: > > > Or maybe a different sun blocker? I feel your pain. Long races Sat > and Sun under heat and sun conditions with a lot of light air. I hate > putting on that goop, even when it does not small like coconuts. And > even the "waterproof" ones run into your eyes when you sweat. There > are some fast drying sunblocks I need to try. CAL 25 too small for a > dodger or bimini. I was laughing at all this because I was sailing my other boat this past weekend and observed that I had become my father (almost). He'd had a little bout with skin cancer and was dutiful about covering up--long pants, long sleeves, big hat, and cotton gloves (those inexpensive brown work gloves). I was wearing some long pants over my shorts (old surgical pants), a long-sleeved sunblocking shirt, and a bright yellow sou'wester foul weather hat, because I had forgotten my brimmed sailing hat. And I boldly went without gloves. I tried hard not to contemplate what that combo looked like. Luckily, the boat is old and pretty, so most folks are paying attention to her and not to her peculiar-looking skipper. I even got a boat compliment from a power boater. I've put in 4 days teaching on the schoolship, doing science stuff with grade school kids on the local tourist schooner under charter. This spring has been full compensation for last year's mess--warm, sunny, and just delightful. For that, I've put sunblock on the face but since it's the season's first real sun exposure for me, I wear long pants, long sleeves, and hat. But those would be necessary anyway, since the surface water temp was still under 60º F. so the breeze on the Bay is cool. Chris Campbell >

I have tried all sorts, there is some stuff out there that as soon as a bead of sweat rolls from the brow into your eyes, you go instantly blind!! Agghgh the pain! I know that there are Dodgers and Bimi's out there to fit my old lady. Just gotta find one! All that covering up while it works i guess must be something aking to a 1908 sweatbox. Thinking that I would HAPPILY jump into the ocean at that point, Ladder or not! --- On Tue, 6/1/10, Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:02 PM Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: Or maybe a different sun blocker? I feel your pain. Long races Sat and Sun under heat and sun conditions with a lot of light air. I hate putting on that goop, even when it does not small like coconuts. And even the "waterproof" ones run into your eyes when you sweat. There are some fast drying sunblocks I need to try. CAL 25 too small for a dodger or bimini. I was laughing at all this because I was sailing my other boat this past weekend and observed that I had become my father (almost). He'd had a little bout with skin cancer and was dutiful about covering up--long pants, long sleeves, big hat, and cotton gloves (those inexpensive brown work gloves). I was wearing some long pants over my shorts (old surgical pants), a long-sleeved sunblocking shirt, and a bright yellow sou'wester foul weather hat, because I had forgotten my brimmed sailing hat. And I boldly went without gloves. I tried hard not to contemplate what that combo looked like. Luckily, the boat is old and pretty, so most folks are paying attention to her and not to her peculiar-looking skipper. I even got a boat compliment from a power boater. I've put in 4 days teaching on the schoolship, doing science stuff with grade school kids on the local tourist schooner under charter. This spring has been full compensation for last year's mess--warm, sunny, and just delightful. For that, I've put sunblock on the face but since it's the season's first real sun exposure for me, I wear long pants, long sleeves, and hat. But those would be necessary anyway, since the surface water temp was still under 60º F. so the breeze on the Bay is cool. Chris Campbell

Happy Trails....:) /chris h On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Chris Campbell < cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: > > > Cal-list friends: > > If anybody has burning questions about Cal 20 sailing in fresh water, > please note that I'm suspending my list participation for a couple weeks > while I head overseas for France. My diver put a new chain on my > mooring, which allows for peace of mind while I'm gone. I'll row the > dinghy out tonight, put an extra line on the tiller, check everything > out, and then trust that we won't be affected by any freak storms here > in the Great Lakes. > > We Great Lakes folks generally hate to travel in the summer months, the > truly sweet season here in the midwest, but this is a good opportunity > so off we go. > > Chris Campbell > > -- /ch

For a fast-drying, nongreasy sunblock, I like BullFrog SPF 36 (NOT one of their other SPF formulations). It goes on as a clear gel and dries quickly because of its high alcohol content. For that reason, don’t get it in your eyes while applying it. No problem once it is dried. Harleigh Cal 31 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! Or maybe a different sun blocker? I feel your pain. Long races Sat and Sun under heat and sun conditions with a lot of light air. I hate putting on that goop, even when it does not small like coconuts. And even the "waterproof" ones run into your eyes when you sweat. There are some fast drying sunblocks I need to try. CAL 25 too small for a dodger or bimini. Cheers, Anyway Charlie _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rogers, Christopher C. Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:30 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! I’d try Bacon’s here in annap: www.baconsails.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Martin Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:07 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! Hello All. Summer sailing, is here on LI Sound, and I am heartily fed up of sailing smelling like a Coconut and as greasy as a French Fry! I have a 1976 Cal 2 27, tiller and unfortunately a very SUNNY cockpit. I have searched unsuccessfully for a Dodger and Bimini to fit my boat and save my toasting skin! So I figured I would reach out to the board an cross fingers. Does anyone have a surplus, unused, older needs refurbing, or even a newer, either or both of the above that would fit my old girl?? I would prefer a Stainless frame(s) but Aluminium would be equally as desirable. Cloth colour is not an issue. Boating on a budget, so something new & shiney is not quite in my budget. Drop me a line with price, location etc if anyone out there can help. Thanks! Steve M Cal 2 27 'Ocean Brats' Bridgeport (Black Rock) CT __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5164 (20100601) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Bon jour mon capitan, Mike From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 12:50:02 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] travel Cal-list friends: If anybody has burning questions about Cal 20 sailing in fresh water, please note that I'm suspending my list participation for a couple weeks while I head overseas for France. My diver put a new chain on my mooring, which allows for peace of mind while I'm gone. I'll row the dinghy out tonight, put an extra line on the tiller, check everything out, and then trust that we won't be affected by any freak storms here in the Great Lakes. We Great Lakes folks generally hate to travel in the summer months, the truly sweet season here in the midwest, but this is a good opportunity so off we go. Chris Campbell ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

God bless you Chris! I'm not so sure that whatever sunblock's chemistry is composed of is not toxic. My Grandmother Eva Flint was 1/2 Shawnee so even though I Iook like a paleface, I am not. I never use the stuff. My Mother looked like Geronimo when she aged, even tho he was an Apache and Mom was a Woods Indian. My Best, Mike From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 1:02:09 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2 27 Dodger and Bimini.. Save my Skin!!!! Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: Or maybe a different sun blocker? I feel your pain. Long races Sat and Sun under heat and sun conditions with a lot of light air. I hate putting on that goop, even when it does not small like coconuts. And even the "waterproof" ones run into your eyes when you sweat. There are some fast drying sunblocks I need to try. CAL 25 too small for a dodger or bimini. I was laughing at all this because I was sailing my other boat this past weekend and observed that I had become my father (almost). He'd had a little bout with skin cancer and was dutiful about covering up--long pants, long sleeves, big hat, and cotton gloves (those inexpensive brown work gloves). I was wearing some long pants over my shorts (old surgical pants), a long-sleeved sunblocking shirt, and a bright yellow sou'wester foul weather hat, because I had forgotten my brimmed sailing hat. And I boldly went without gloves. I tried hard not to contemplate what that combo looked like. Luckily, the boat is old and pretty, so most folks are paying attention to her and not to her peculiar-looking skipper. I even got a boat compliment from a power boater. I've put in 4 days teaching on the schoolship, doing science stuff with grade school kids on the local tourist schooner under charter. This spring has been full compensation for last year's mess--warm, sunny, and just delightful. For that, I've put sunblock on the face but since it's the season's first real sun exposure for me, I wear long pants, long sleeves, and hat. But those would be necessary anyway, since the surface water temp was still under 60º F. so the breeze on the Bay is cool. Chris Campbell

I have been &nbsp;wearing a lot of the long sleeved dry shirts rated at SPF 50. My Irish heritage has caught up to me and my doctor just loves making new holes in my skin. He holds up a plain white sheet of paper and tells me that is what color I should be. I for some reason can't seem to get there. I worked on aflight line and have sailed for many years. I keep telling him I am stained. -- Sent from my Palm Pixi On Jun 1, 2010 13:03, Chris Campbell &lt;cl… [at] charterinternet.com&gt; wrote: &nbsp; Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } Or maybe a different sun blocker?&nbsp; I feel your pain.&nbsp; Long races Sat and Sun under heat and sun conditions with a lot of light air.&nbsp; I hate putting on that goop, even when it does not small like coconuts.&nbsp; And even the "waterproof" ones run into your eyes when you sweat.&nbsp; There are some fast drying sunblocks I need to try.&nbsp; CAL 25 too small for a dodger or bimini. I was laughing at all this because I was sailing my other boat this past weekend and observed that I had become my father (almost).&nbsp; He'd had a little bout with skin cancer and was dutiful about covering up--long pants, long sleeves, big hat, and cotton gloves (those inexpensive brown work gloves).&nbsp; I was wearing some long pants over my shorts (old surgical pants), a long-sleeved sunblocking shirt, and a bright yellow sou'wester foul weather hat, because I had forgotten my brimmed sailing hat.&nbsp; And I boldly went without gloves. I tried hard not to contemplate what that combo looked like.&nbsp; Luckily, the boat is old and pretty, so most folks are paying attention to her and not to her peculiar-looking skipper.&nbsp; I even got a boat compliment from a power boater. I've put in 4 days teaching on the schoolship, doing science stuff with grade school kids on the local tourist schooner under charter.&nbsp; This spring has been full compensation for last year's mess--warm, sunny, and just delightful.&nbsp; For that, I've put sunblock on the face but since it's the season's first real sun exposure for me, I wear long pants, long sleeves, and hat.&nbsp; But those would be necessary anyway, since the surface water temp was still under 60º F. so the breeze on the Bay is cool. Chris Campbell &nbsp;

I found this great web site that rates sunblock. We need it in Las Vegas. It will be 105 this weekend and hopefully I will be in Ventura! There is more to it than I thought and some promote cancer growth!! If the link does not work go to the main page www.ewg.org http://www.ewg.org/2010sunscreen/finding-the-best-sunscreens/?search=&brand_id=&ptype=sunscreen&nooxybenzone=on&novitamina=on&nospray=on Kevin O "Kona" Cal-31 Las Vegas

The Sun Block suggestions while helpful... Well Nuff said! Today was launch day, 87F and a scorcher on LI Sound I took to a greasy factor somewhere off the scale sunblock and my trusty Tilley hat! My shady solution has to be out there somewhere! So all afloat and ready for the season, just got to re-thread the new Transducer after my old one failed on the first day. 143ft of depth in a 20ft channel, I think that was a give dead away that something was not quite right! While I a touching wood, I will mention that my ancient 1975 Atomic4 purred like a kitten. Now I've gone and put a hex on it, haven't I !!! Steve M --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Kevin O <fi… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Kevin O <fi… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:52 PM I found this great web site that rates sunblock. We need it in Las Vegas. It will be 105 this weekend and hopefully I will be in Ventura! There is more to it than I thought and some promote cancer growth!! If the link does not work go to the main page www.ewg.org http://www.ewg. org/2010sunscree n/finding- the-best- sunscreens/ ?search=&brand_id=&ptype=sunscreen&nooxybenzone= on&novitamina=on&nospray=on Kevin O "Kona" Cal-31 Las Vegas

Martin, If inferring that an ancient model T type L head 4 cylinder engine has anything to do with Atomic power wouldn't put a hex on an engine, nothing will ! So...not to worry... No more than a Grey Marine engine will make the day overcast. Speaking of sunblock, one of the few lotions rated number one is Badger. I doubt Badgers use it, so how would it get that name, and, why don't the big Drug Store chains stock everything but it? I guess you'd have to buy it thru a Google research quest. I'm using Banana Boat for Babes with pro cancer ingrediants except for the 2% titanium dioxide. At least the shhh...d doesn't sting me eyes. I tested the other Baby Sunblock, sponsored by the Drug Chain (Rite-Aide) by dabbing a spot of it on the side of my nose near my eye, and 'it' did. Meanwhile I'm leaving my hair grow long so it shades me ears and neck, and ditto my full beard, tho it makes me look like a cast-away or a homeless person...or a die hard sailor of classic plastic. Jerry --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Stephen Martin <st… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Stephen Martin <st… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 7:31 PM The Sun Block suggestions while helpful... Well Nuff said! Today was launch day, 87F and a scorcher on LI Sound I took to a greasy factor somewhere off the scale sunblock and my trusty Tilley hat! My shady solution has to be out there somewhere! So all afloat and ready for the season, just got to re-thread the new Transducer after my old one failed on the first day. 143ft of depth in a 20ft channel, I think that was a give dead away that something was not quite right! While I a touching wood, I will mention that my ancient 1975 Atomic4 purred like a kitten. Now I've gone and put a hex on it, haven't I !!! Steve M --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Kevin O <first4banger@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Kevin O <first4banger@ yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:52 PM I found this great web site that rates sunblock. We need it in Las Vegas. It will be 105 this weekend and hopefully I will be in Ventura! There is more to it than I thought and some promote cancer growth!! If the link does not work go to the main page www.ewg.org http://www.ewg. org/2010sunscree n/finding- the-best- sunscreens/ ?search=&brand_id=&ptype=sunscreen&nooxybenzone= on&novitamina=on&nospray=on Kevin O "Kona" Cal-31 Las Vegas

Hello all, In my haste to post, I dont think that I introduced myself sufficiently. My name is Steve, and I sail my 1975 CAL 2 27, Atomic 4, on LI Sound in Connecticut. I purchased the boat about 4 years ago and she has been good to me so far. I started out at New Haven Yacht club. This was a great club and one of the oldest, good people sailing good boats. It was just to far for me to get too. I then set off across the bay to a dock at Oyster Point in New Haven, when they sold up and we were forced off by the buyers, I moved yet again, and now sailing out of Captains Cove (Black Rock) Harbour in Bridgeport CT. I hold US Sailing Certifications for Keelboats and would love to go on an 'Offshore' trip, maybe one day. This CAL is my first 'Cruiser' and cruising is my mainstay of sailing, after freshwater dinghy sailing. She, my personal hole in the water, is like all boats; requiring more work than I ever anticipated, and likely more cash than I can ever earn. My stolid and long suffering wife, like many others; claims to be a sailing widow, she deems, that the boat is my other woman. Anyway, thats me in a nutshell, So I will say hello to all! Back to my original post I wish that I had enough hair to cover whats not covered already!! I think the description is 'Follically Challenged' especially on the top . As for the beard, I dont think 'she who must be obeyed' will go for it. So in consideration of the lack of my canvass nirvana, I will go Badger hunting! I personally dont know how these folks that go sailing in designer suits do it, I ALWAYS come back looking like a street urchin. Dishevelled, Red as a berry, in need of a shower, and as greasy as a recently fried cod fish! My canvass hunt continues ! --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Atomic power, was..Re: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block(Martin) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:15 PM Martin, If inferring that an ancient model T type L head 4 cylinder engine has anything to do with Atomic power wouldn't put a hex on an engine, nothing will ! So...not to worry... No more than a Grey Marine engine will make the day overcast. Speaking of sunblock, one of the few lotions rated number one is Badger. I doubt Badgers use it, so how would it get that name, and, why don't the big Drug Store chains stock everything but it? I guess you'd have to buy it thru a Google research quest. I'm using Banana Boat for Babes with pro cancer ingrediants except for the 2% titanium dioxide. At least the shhh...d doesn't sting me eyes. I tested the other Baby Sunblock, sponsored by the Drug Chain (Rite-Aide) by dabbing a spot of it on the side of my nose near my eye, and 'it' did. Meanwhile I'm leaving my hair grow long so it shades me ears and neck, and ditto my full beard, tho it makes me look like a cast-away or a homeless person...or a die hard sailor of classic plastic. Jerry --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Stephen Martin <stephen_w_martin@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Stephen Martin <stephen_w_martin@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 7:31 PM The Sun Block suggestions while helpful... Well Nuff said! Today was launch day, 87F and a scorcher on LI Sound I took to a greasy factor somewhere off the scale sunblock and my trusty Tilley hat! My shady solution has to be out there somewhere! So all afloat and ready for the season, just got to re-thread the new Transducer after my old one failed on the first day. 143ft of depth in a 20ft channel, I think that was a give dead away that something was not quite right! While I a touching wood, I will mention that my ancient 1975 Atomic4 purred like a kitten. Now I've gone and put a hex on it, haven't I !!! Steve M --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Kevin O <first4banger@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Kevin O <first4banger@ yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:52 PM I found this great web site that rates sunblock. We need it in Las Vegas. It will be 105 this weekend and hopefully I will be in Ventura! There is more to it than I thought and some promote cancer growth!! If the link does not work go to the main page www.ewg.org http://www.ewg. org/2010sunscree n/finding- the-best- sunscreens/ ?search=&brand_id=&ptype=sunscreen&nooxybenzone= on&novitamina=on&nospray=on Kevin O "Kona" Cal-31 Las Vegas

Out of curiosity, how many LI Sound Cals participate in this group? It seems, sensibly, that most of the Cals are in Cal. There also seems to be a large Chesapeake contingent. I am on the Western sound and would be interested to know how many others are out there. Please speak up if you are on the sound. Regards, Wayne s/v Elusive Cal 39 Mk 3 NYACYC Travers Is, NY

Hear, Hear for the LI Sound. And for the Chesapeake Fleet. I also believe we have a number of Florida and Texas boats. And who could forget the Flathead Lake contingent or the Portland collection. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Gillikin Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:57 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] LI Sound Cals Out of curiosity, how many LI Sound Cals participate in this group? It seems, sensibly, that most of the Cals are in Cal. There also seems to be a large Chesapeake contingent. I am on the Western sound and would be interested to know how many others are out there. Please speak up if you are on the sound. Regards, Wayne s/v Elusive Cal 39 Mk 3 NYACYC Travers Is, NY

Welcome Sailor from San Francisco Bay. Mike Farrell Cal 20 hull# 1114 Rambler & Cal 20 hull# 61 Coyote From: Stephen Martin <st… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 6:39:52 AM Subject: Re: Atomic power, was..Re: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block(Martin) Hello all, In my haste to post, I dont think that I introduced myself sufficiently. My name is Steve, and I sail my 1975 CAL 2 27, Atomic 4, on LI Sound in Connecticut. I purchased the boat about 4 years ago and she has been good to me so far. I started out at New Haven Yacht club. This was a great club and one of the oldest, good people sailing good boats. It was just to far for me to get too. I then set off across the bay to a dock at Oyster Point in New Haven, when they sold up and we were forced off by the buyers, I moved yet again, and now sailing out of Captains Cove (Black Rock) Harbour in Bridgeport CT. I hold US Sailing Certifications for Keelboats and would love to go on an 'Offshore' trip, maybe one day. This CAL is my first 'Cruiser' and cruising is my mainstay of sailing, after freshwater dinghy sailing. She, my personal hole in the water, is like all boats; requiring more work than I ever anticipated, and likely more cash than I can ever earn. My stolid and long suffering wife, like many others; claims to be a sailing widow, she deems, that the boat is my other woman. Anyway, thats me in a nutshell, So I will say hello to all! Back to my original post I wish that I had enough hair to cover whats not covered already!! I think the description is 'Follically Challenged' especially on the top . As for the beard, I dont think 'she who must be obeyed' will go for it. So in consideration of the lack of my canvass nirvana, I will go Badger hunting! I personally dont know how these folks that go sailing in designer suits do it, I ALWAYS come back looking like a street urchin. Dishevelled, Red as a berry, in need of a shower, and as greasy as a recently fried cod fish! My canvass hunt continues ! --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: >From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> >Subject: Atomic power, was..Re: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block(Martin) >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:15 PM > > > >Martin, >If inferring that an ancient model T type L head 4 cylinder engine has anything to do with Atomic power wouldn't put a hex on an engine, nothing will ! So...not to worry... No more than a Grey Marine engine will make the day overcast. > >Speaking of sunblock, one of the few lotions rated number one is Badger. I doubt Badgers use it, so how would it get that name, and, why don't the big Drug Store chains stock everything but it? I guess you'd have to buy it thru a Google research quest. >I'm using Banana Boat for Babes with pro cancer ingrediants except for the 2% titanium dioxide. At least the shhh...d doesn't sting me eyes. I tested the other Baby Sunblock, sponsored by the Drug Chain (Rite-Aide) by dabbing a spot of it on the side of my nose near my eye, and 'it' did. > >Meanwhile I'm leaving my hair grow long so it shades me ears and neck, and ditto my full beard, tho it makes me look like a cast-away or a homeless person...or a die hard sailor of classic plastic. >Jerry > >--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Stephen Martin <stephen_w_martin@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>From: Stephen Martin <stephen_w_martin@ yahoo.com> >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block >>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >>Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 7:31 PM >> >> >> >>The Sun Block suggestions while helpful... Well Nuff said! Today was launch day, 87F and a scorcher on LI Sound I took to a greasy factor somewhere off the scale sunblock and my trusty Tilley hat! >> >>My shady solution has to be out there somewhere! >> >>So all afloat and ready for the season, just got to re-thread the new Transducer after my old one failed on the first day. 143ft of depth in a 20ft channel, I think that was a give dead away that something was not quite right! >> >>While I a touching wood, I will mention that my ancient 1975 Atomic4 purred like a kitten. Now I've gone and put a hex on it, haven't I !!! >> >>Steve M >> >> >>--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Kevin O <first4banger@ yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >>>From: Kevin O <first4banger@ yahoo.com> >>>Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sun Block >>>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >>>Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:52 PM >>> >>> >>> >>>I found this great web site that rates sunblock. We need it in Las Vegas. It will be 105 this weekend and hopefully I will be in Ventura! >>>There is more to it than I thought and some promote cancer growth!! >>>If the link does not work go to the main page www.ewg.org >>> >>> >>>http://www.ewg. org/2010sunscree n/finding- the-best- sunscreens/ ?search=&brand_id=&ptype=sunscreen&nooxybenzone= on&novitamina=on&nospray=on >>> >>> >>>Kevin O >>>"Kona" >>>Cal-31 >>>Las Vegas >>> >>> >>> >>> >>

Hi All, If you are ever wondering what the Atlantic looks like, http://174.141.93.194/ is a link to a camera that updates about every 3 seconds. The lighthouse in the upper left is at the inlet where we go out. Michael