9 messages2010-07-20 04:10 UTCthrough 2010-07-27 05:09 UTC
Cal 20 Pictures
Chris Bowen2010-07-20 04:10 UTC
Hi all,
For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my
restoration of Cal 20 #65.
I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris B's
cal 20 #65.
She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is one of
the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice.
Chris Bowen
Cal 20 #65
Camano Island,Wa.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures
chris1232010-07-21 16:11 UTC
really nice job....shoot now there are two Chris B's with Cal 20's....hmmmm
this could get confusing.
Really like the hatch you build. As Im considering the same for my 29 was
wondering if you have any further details or sketches on how you constructed
it.
Im currently in transit and just droped off a boat. Standing here looking at
my cal 20 and well, your pictures got me thinking again....hmm. We will see.
Best regards
/ch (chris h)
Re: Cal 20 Pictures
George2010-07-21 16:21
Chris, I bought my boat semi restored and have been stalled on finishing in part by not being sure which way to go.I would like to set mine up like yours, I have little experience.Could you send me some diagrams and detail of how you have your sail handling foredeck and controls set up?I'm a total novice frustrated and anxious to get my boat into the water.Your boat looks perfect.George/South Florida
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--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my
> restoration of Cal 20 #65.
> I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris B's
> cal 20 #65.
> She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is one of
> the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice.
>
> Chris Bowen
> Cal 20 #65
> Camano Island,Wa.
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris & George)
Chris Bowen2010-07-22 04:02 UTC
Thanks for the comments............I will look around the garage to see if I
still have the sketches I made for the hatch.I have a 3 plus car garage with
tablesaw, planer/sander, router & all, so woodworking has always been fun,
and it's amazing what a hack like me can do with the right tools.
I will see if I can take some close up pictures of the deck layout and
rigging, however it is pretty straight forward. I just tried to set it up so
singlehanding was easy and I could stay in the cockpit so to speak.
Chris Bowen
Cal 20 #65
Camano island,Wa.
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures
really nice job....shoot now there are two Chris B's with Cal
20's....hmmmm this could get confusing.
Really like the hatch you build. As Im considering the same for my 29 was
wondering if you have any further details or sketches on how you constructed
it.
Im currently in transit and just droped off a boat. Standing here looking
at my cal 20 and well, your pictures got me thinking again....hmm. We will
see.
Best regards
/ch (chris h)
Re: Cal 20 Pictures
sail_c22010-07-26 14:05
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my
> restoration of Cal 20 #65.
> I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris B's
> cal 20 #65.
> She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is one of
> the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice.
I'm just back from a week's vacation sailing our local reproduction of a 19th century commercial schooner from the Lake Huron side (Bay City, on Saginaw Bay) to the Lake Michigan side (Traverse City, my current home. I should say "sailing" because it was mostly dieseling. The old schooner has some sort of wind magnet attached to her bow.
In any event, I'm really happy that somebody else shares my appreciation for the Cal 20's lines. Maybe it's just because she sails so ably, but I think they're cool boats. Bill Lapworth gave her a nice sheerline, and I've come to admire the raised deck. There were a variety of Cal 20 imitations that came along, but none had quite the right proportions nor, apparently, the sailing ability. My acquaintances are tired of me telling them to buy a Cal 20 when they start talking about buying some 38-45 foot cruiser for daysailing. All of us have images of extensive passages in our daydreams but many of us do 95% of our sailing in general daysailing or round-the buoys racing. Geez, buy a Cal 20! And then find the book about Blackfeathers' passage and you can still daydream!
Chris Campbell
Just another Cal 20 lover in the Chris Club
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures
Chris Campbell2010-07-26 15:09 UTC
Chris Bowen wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my
> restoration of Cal 20 #65.
> I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is
> Chris B's
> cal 20 #65.
> She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is
> one of
> the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice.
>
I just peeked at the pix--what a handsome vessel! She shows the
attention that a good boat deserves. A coup,e questions and comments:
1. Did you add aluminum cheeks to the rudder, at the point where the
tiller joins it? The first photo looks as though you have. It's a weak
point and I've been trying to decide whether and how to reinforce my
mahogany original there.
2. You've got a furling jib, but I rely on my hanked-on versions, so I
like having a forward hatch to dump the sails down and retrieve them.
It's also where I keep the little buoy I use on my mooring lines when I
sail. The hatch also gives me ventilation, since it's raised up on
little teak blocks at the forward corners and I removed the previous
owner's rubber gasket.. If I were sailing offshore, I'd devise some
method for sealing it but for my uses, the ventilation is welcome (a
prev. owner installed a stainless louver in the companionway drop-board,
so I get through-ventilation).
3. Your jib sheet winches have nice angled bases. Mine are
factory-mount, on deck. Yours are better.
4. Your outboard is on a bracket, a convenient solution to the problem
of availability vs. drag that we well-mount owners face. I like the
less cluttered look of the OB in the well, but then you're dragging that
lower unit all over. I sailed the first half of the summer with no OB
mounted. The little temp. 3 hp lived in the cockpit locker, just in
case. Now that the 6 hp is fixed, it's in the well. Maybe I'll lift it
out and see if it fits in the cockpit locker. It's a long shaft, which
complicates things a little.
5. I'll say it again. Good boats deserve care and attention. Good
sailors, at least the all-around good ones, take care of their boats.
Your boat shows the care and attention she deserves. I feel a
responsibility to keep my boat in a condition that will allow her to
sail on long after I'm gone and to give some other lucky sailor the kind
of pleasure I have in sailing her.
Chris Campbell
Cal 20 #1220, the lovely /Martha C/
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris & George)
Chris Campbell2010-07-26 15:29 UTC
Chris Bowen wrote:
>
>
> .I have a 3 plus car garage with tablesaw, planer/sander, router &
> all, so woodworking has always been fun, and it's amazing what a hack
> like me can do with the right tools.
No, it's interesting what a person who approaches a project seriously
can do. Anybody who can make a boat look like yours is not a "hack." I
was raised around people who owned a variety of tools and used them,
teaching me that a basic component of self-reliance is the ability to
figure things out and to fix, improve, or re-engineer them. Part of the
lessons was taking the time to do something right, or at least as well
as you can manage. Surely that's what you've done, very successfully.
No modesty is called for.
There are two ways to navigate through life. One is to acquire vast
sums of money so you can hire somebody to attend to all the pesky
details, including boat maintenance & repair. Most of us haven't
followed that path or we wouldn't be on the Cal list. The other is to
acquire the kind of knowledge and experience that lets you deal with
life's problems, including your boat's problems, with your own
resources. That's what most sailors do.
Bill Schanen, the distinguished publisher of /Sailing/ magazine, has a
nice (as usual) column in the latest issue. He writes about how a
certain craftsmanship was a part of sailing. Sailors learned the art
and its basic rules. Now, he lamented, too many have no clue. They
power along, fenders overboard, the main scrunched into an ill-shaped
lump on the boom, and lines dragging in the water. I cringe when I see
poor maintenance and slap-dash workmanship.
We saw one of the new breed while sailing the schooner home last week.
North of Alpena, we encountered a sailboat on a constant bearing with
our vessel, so we altered course to signal our intention. No response.
The other vessel passed us headed downwind under jib only, fenders
overboard, nobody at the helm or in the cockpit, and wind vane steering
the boat (perhaps also an autopilot). Mind you, we were just inshore of
the freighter lane, and there was a big one going our way behind us.
Perhaps the skipper was below briefly to visit the head or have a snack,
but that does not explain the fenders nor excuse the failure to observe
two other larger vessels in the vicinity before leaving the helm
unattended.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris & George)
chris1232010-07-26 20:34 UTC
I couldn't agree with you more. Just spend the weekend in my former stomping
grounds to deliver and divest myself of my projects so I can focus on the 20
& 29. Interestingly enough on good friend let me spend 3 nights on his
Bayfield 25 footer and it was sweet, hanging on a mooring, at the former
club that I belonged too. Remote, primitive, a hidden jewel in a town that
will remain nameless...:) He has owned more then ten boats, and is one of
the most experienced lads I know willing to invest his time to bring you
along as fast as you want to dive in.
The next day he introduced my to some of his friends and I caught a ride on
hunter 2600 or something.Basically a marina party boat. Folks had bought it
in Florida and wanted to bring it home. After three weeks of frustration
they had it delivered overland back to town. Sailing with this husband and
wife team, it soon became apparent that there was a level of appreciation of
the sport but they were on a very fast and very steep learning curve. I just
smiled....and felt good as all of a sudden the pressure was off. Hay I not
the only novice out there..:) Now the interesting part is when I mentioned I
had a CAL 29 hubby got all excited as had caught a ride on a 25 at some
point and just had the fondest memories of the turn of speed of that boat.
Being new to sailing my self its amazing how much there is too learn and yet
how far people venture with little practical skill or knowledge. The
dangerous ones I have found are the ones who think they have it
"covered".....seasoned sailors pass it on..:)
Best regards
/ch
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris Campbell)
Chris Bowen2010-07-27 05:09 UTC
Chris,
Thanks for the kind words.........
I find it almost as much fun to work on her as sail her ( Almost )
1) Yes, just to keep the brass brackets and bolts from rubbing against the
mahogany.
2.) Yes, I installed a Harken Unit 00AL. I found it easier to handle the jib
(when sailing alone) without having to get up on the deck. I don't have a
forward hatch.
3.) Winch bases came with the boat ( were a little rough ) but cleaned up
nicely. I couldn't remember which angle they went back on, but Mike Farrell
set me straight.
4.) Yes, I installed the outboard bracket as I am in Puget Sound ( salt )
and the corrosion starts pretty fast, so I can just lift it up and out of
the water easily when sailing or at the dock.
5.) She Is a good boat, and I try to give her the attention she deserves,
and she gives me great sailing in return.
Thanks Again
Chris Bowen
Cal 20 #65
Camano Island,Wa.
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures
Chris Bowen wrote:
Hi all,
For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of
my
restoration of Cal 20 #65.
I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris
B's
cal 20 #65.
She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is
one of
the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice.
I just peeked at the pix--what a handsome vessel! She shows the attention
that a good boat deserves. A coup,e questions and comments:
1. Did you add aluminum cheeks to the rudder, at the point where the
tiller joins it? The first photo looks as though you have. It's a weak
point and I've been trying to decide whether and how to reinforce my
mahogany original there.
2. You've got a furling jib, but I rely on my hanked-on versions, so I
like having a forward hatch to dump the sails down and retrieve them. It's
also where I keep the little buoy I use on my mooring lines when I sail.
The hatch also gives me ventilation, since it's raised up on little teak
blocks at the forward corners and I removed the previous owner's rubber
gasket.. If I were sailing offshore, I'd devise some method for sealing it
but for my uses, the ventilation is welcome (a prev. owner installed a
stainless louver in the companionway drop-board, so I get
through-ventilation).
3. Your jib sheet winches have nice angled bases. Mine are
factory-mount, on deck. Yours are better.
4. Your outboard is on a bracket, a convenient solution to the problem of
availability vs. drag that we well-mount owners face. I like the less
cluttered look of the OB in the well, but then you're dragging that lower
unit all over. I sailed the first half of the summer with no OB mounted.
The little temp. 3 hp lived in the cockpit locker, just in case. Now that
the 6 hp is fixed, it's in the well. Maybe I'll lift it out and see if it
fits in the cockpit locker. It's a long shaft, which complicates things a
little.
5. I'll say it again. Good boats deserve care and attention. Good
sailors, at least the all-around good ones, take care of their boats. Your
boat shows the care and attention she deserves. I feel a responsibility to
keep my boat in a condition that will allow her to sail on long after I'm
gone and to give some other lucky sailor the kind of pleasure I have in
sailing her.
Chris Campbell
Cal 20 #1220, the lovely Martha C