Cal 20 Pictures

Cal 20 Pictures

9 messages2010-07-20 04:10 UTCthrough 2010-07-27 05:09 UTC

Cal 20 Pictures

Chris Bowen2010-07-20 04:10 UTC
Hi all, For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my restoration of Cal 20 #65. I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris B's cal 20 #65. She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is one of the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice. Chris Bowen Cal 20 #65 Camano Island,Wa.

Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures

chris1232010-07-21 16:11 UTC
really nice job....shoot now there are two Chris B's with Cal 20's....hmmmm this could get confusing. Really like the hatch you build. As Im considering the same for my 29 was wondering if you have any further details or sketches on how you constructed it. Im currently in transit and just droped off a boat. Standing here looking at my cal 20 and well, your pictures got me thinking again....hmm. We will see. Best regards /ch (chris h)

Re: Cal 20 Pictures

George2010-07-21 16:21
Chris, I bought my boat semi restored and have been stalled on finishing in part by not being sure which way to go.I would like to set mine up like yours, I have little experience.Could you send me some diagrams and detail of how you have your sail handling foredeck and controls set up?I'm a total novice frustrated and anxious to get my boat into the water.Your boat looks perfect.George/South Florida Ge… [at] comcast.net --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my > restoration of Cal 20 #65. > I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris B's > cal 20 #65. > She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is one of > the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice. > > Chris Bowen > Cal 20 #65 > Camano Island,Wa. >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris & George)

Chris Bowen2010-07-22 04:02 UTC
Thanks for the comments............I will look around the garage to see if I still have the sketches I made for the hatch.I have a 3 plus car garage with tablesaw, planer/sander, router & all, so woodworking has always been fun, and it's amazing what a hack like me can do with the right tools. I will see if I can take some close up pictures of the deck layout and rigging, however it is pretty straight forward. I just tried to set it up so singlehanding was easy and I could stay in the cockpit so to speak. Chris Bowen Cal 20 #65 Camano island,Wa. -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of chris123 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:11 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures really nice job....shoot now there are two Chris B's with Cal 20's....hmmmm this could get confusing. Really like the hatch you build. As Im considering the same for my 29 was wondering if you have any further details or sketches on how you constructed it. Im currently in transit and just droped off a boat. Standing here looking at my cal 20 and well, your pictures got me thinking again....hmm. We will see. Best regards /ch (chris h)

Re: Cal 20 Pictures

sail_c22010-07-26 14:05
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Chris Bowen" <ckbow@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my > restoration of Cal 20 #65. > I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris B's > cal 20 #65. > She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is one of > the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice. I'm just back from a week's vacation sailing our local reproduction of a 19th century commercial schooner from the Lake Huron side (Bay City, on Saginaw Bay) to the Lake Michigan side (Traverse City, my current home. I should say "sailing" because it was mostly dieseling. The old schooner has some sort of wind magnet attached to her bow. In any event, I'm really happy that somebody else shares my appreciation for the Cal 20's lines. Maybe it's just because she sails so ably, but I think they're cool boats. Bill Lapworth gave her a nice sheerline, and I've come to admire the raised deck. There were a variety of Cal 20 imitations that came along, but none had quite the right proportions nor, apparently, the sailing ability. My acquaintances are tired of me telling them to buy a Cal 20 when they start talking about buying some 38-45 foot cruiser for daysailing. All of us have images of extensive passages in our daydreams but many of us do 95% of our sailing in general daysailing or round-the buoys racing. Geez, buy a Cal 20! And then find the book about Blackfeathers' passage and you can still daydream! Chris Campbell Just another Cal 20 lover in the Chris Club > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures

Chris Campbell2010-07-26 15:09 UTC
Chris Bowen wrote: > > > Hi all, > > For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my > restoration of Cal 20 #65. > I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is > Chris B's > cal 20 #65. > She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is > one of > the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice. > I just peeked at the pix--what a handsome vessel! She shows the attention that a good boat deserves. A coup,e questions and comments: 1. Did you add aluminum cheeks to the rudder, at the point where the tiller joins it? The first photo looks as though you have. It's a weak point and I've been trying to decide whether and how to reinforce my mahogany original there. 2. You've got a furling jib, but I rely on my hanked-on versions, so I like having a forward hatch to dump the sails down and retrieve them. It's also where I keep the little buoy I use on my mooring lines when I sail. The hatch also gives me ventilation, since it's raised up on little teak blocks at the forward corners and I removed the previous owner's rubber gasket.. If I were sailing offshore, I'd devise some method for sealing it but for my uses, the ventilation is welcome (a prev. owner installed a stainless louver in the companionway drop-board, so I get through-ventilation). 3. Your jib sheet winches have nice angled bases. Mine are factory-mount, on deck. Yours are better. 4. Your outboard is on a bracket, a convenient solution to the problem of availability vs. drag that we well-mount owners face. I like the less cluttered look of the OB in the well, but then you're dragging that lower unit all over. I sailed the first half of the summer with no OB mounted. The little temp. 3 hp lived in the cockpit locker, just in case. Now that the 6 hp is fixed, it's in the well. Maybe I'll lift it out and see if it fits in the cockpit locker. It's a long shaft, which complicates things a little. 5. I'll say it again. Good boats deserve care and attention. Good sailors, at least the all-around good ones, take care of their boats. Your boat shows the care and attention she deserves. I feel a responsibility to keep my boat in a condition that will allow her to sail on long after I'm gone and to give some other lucky sailor the kind of pleasure I have in sailing her. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, the lovely /Martha C/ > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris & George)

Chris Campbell2010-07-26 15:29 UTC
Chris Bowen wrote: > > > .I have a 3 plus car garage with tablesaw, planer/sander, router & > all, so woodworking has always been fun, and it's amazing what a hack > like me can do with the right tools. No, it's interesting what a person who approaches a project seriously can do. Anybody who can make a boat look like yours is not a "hack." I was raised around people who owned a variety of tools and used them, teaching me that a basic component of self-reliance is the ability to figure things out and to fix, improve, or re-engineer them. Part of the lessons was taking the time to do something right, or at least as well as you can manage. Surely that's what you've done, very successfully. No modesty is called for. There are two ways to navigate through life. One is to acquire vast sums of money so you can hire somebody to attend to all the pesky details, including boat maintenance & repair. Most of us haven't followed that path or we wouldn't be on the Cal list. The other is to acquire the kind of knowledge and experience that lets you deal with life's problems, including your boat's problems, with your own resources. That's what most sailors do. Bill Schanen, the distinguished publisher of /Sailing/ magazine, has a nice (as usual) column in the latest issue. He writes about how a certain craftsmanship was a part of sailing. Sailors learned the art and its basic rules. Now, he lamented, too many have no clue. They power along, fenders overboard, the main scrunched into an ill-shaped lump on the boom, and lines dragging in the water. I cringe when I see poor maintenance and slap-dash workmanship. We saw one of the new breed while sailing the schooner home last week. North of Alpena, we encountered a sailboat on a constant bearing with our vessel, so we altered course to signal our intention. No response. The other vessel passed us headed downwind under jib only, fenders overboard, nobody at the helm or in the cockpit, and wind vane steering the boat (perhaps also an autopilot). Mind you, we were just inshore of the freighter lane, and there was a big one going our way behind us. Perhaps the skipper was below briefly to visit the head or have a snack, but that does not explain the fenders nor excuse the failure to observe two other larger vessels in the vicinity before leaving the helm unattended. Chris Campbell

Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris & George)

chris1232010-07-26 20:34 UTC
I couldn't agree with you more. Just spend the weekend in my former stomping grounds to deliver and divest myself of my projects so I can focus on the 20 & 29. Interestingly enough on good friend let me spend 3 nights on his Bayfield 25 footer and it was sweet, hanging on a mooring, at the former club that I belonged too. Remote, primitive, a hidden jewel in a town that will remain nameless...:) He has owned more then ten boats, and is one of the most experienced lads I know willing to invest his time to bring you along as fast as you want to dive in. The next day he introduced my to some of his friends and I caught a ride on hunter 2600 or something.Basically a marina party boat. Folks had bought it in Florida and wanted to bring it home. After three weeks of frustration they had it delivered overland back to town. Sailing with this husband and wife team, it soon became apparent that there was a level of appreciation of the sport but they were on a very fast and very steep learning curve. I just smiled....and felt good as all of a sudden the pressure was off. Hay I not the only novice out there..:) Now the interesting part is when I mentioned I had a CAL 29 hubby got all excited as had caught a ride on a 25 at some point and just had the fondest memories of the turn of speed of that boat. Being new to sailing my self its amazing how much there is too learn and yet how far people venture with little practical skill or knowledge. The dangerous ones I have found are the ones who think they have it "covered".....seasoned sailors pass it on..:) Best regards /ch

RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures (Chris Campbell)

Chris Bowen2010-07-27 05:09 UTC
Chris, Thanks for the kind words......... I find it almost as much fun to work on her as sail her ( Almost ) 1) Yes, just to keep the brass brackets and bolts from rubbing against the mahogany. 2.) Yes, I installed a Harken Unit 00AL. I found it easier to handle the jib (when sailing alone) without having to get up on the deck. I don't have a forward hatch. 3.) Winch bases came with the boat ( were a little rough ) but cleaned up nicely. I couldn't remember which angle they went back on, but Mike Farrell set me straight. 4.) Yes, I installed the outboard bracket as I am in Puget Sound ( salt ) and the corrosion starts pretty fast, so I can just lift it up and out of the water easily when sailing or at the dock. 5.) She Is a good boat, and I try to give her the attention she deserves, and she gives me great sailing in return. Thanks Again Chris Bowen Cal 20 #65 Camano Island,Wa. -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:09 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Pictures Chris Bowen wrote: Hi all, For anyone interested, I have uploaded some more pictures on page 2 of my restoration of Cal 20 #65. I pretty much have her dialed in for my sailing style. The file is Chris B's cal 20 #65. She is a work of love in progress. I have come to think the cal 20 is one of the prettiest boats on the water, but then, I'm prejudice. I just peeked at the pix--what a handsome vessel! She shows the attention that a good boat deserves. A coup,e questions and comments: 1. Did you add aluminum cheeks to the rudder, at the point where the tiller joins it? The first photo looks as though you have. It's a weak point and I've been trying to decide whether and how to reinforce my mahogany original there. 2. You've got a furling jib, but I rely on my hanked-on versions, so I like having a forward hatch to dump the sails down and retrieve them. It's also where I keep the little buoy I use on my mooring lines when I sail. The hatch also gives me ventilation, since it's raised up on little teak blocks at the forward corners and I removed the previous owner's rubber gasket.. If I were sailing offshore, I'd devise some method for sealing it but for my uses, the ventilation is welcome (a prev. owner installed a stainless louver in the companionway drop-board, so I get through-ventilation). 3. Your jib sheet winches have nice angled bases. Mine are factory-mount, on deck. Yours are better. 4. Your outboard is on a bracket, a convenient solution to the problem of availability vs. drag that we well-mount owners face. I like the less cluttered look of the OB in the well, but then you're dragging that lower unit all over. I sailed the first half of the summer with no OB mounted. The little temp. 3 hp lived in the cockpit locker, just in case. Now that the 6 hp is fixed, it's in the well. Maybe I'll lift it out and see if it fits in the cockpit locker. It's a long shaft, which complicates things a little. 5. I'll say it again. Good boats deserve care and attention. Good sailors, at least the all-around good ones, take care of their boats. Your boat shows the care and attention she deserves. I feel a responsibility to keep my boat in a condition that will allow her to sail on long after I'm gone and to give some other lucky sailor the kind of pleasure I have in sailing her. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, the lovely Martha C