17 messages2010-08-04 08:02 through 2010-08-11 09:24 UTC
Mailsail Cover
graemorrison2010-08-04 08:02
Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a 1972 Cal-29 - my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in pretty good shape (for a 38 year old!) and well looked after by the previous owner, however, as with most boats there are a number of things that need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing I need to do is replace the main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices vary considerably and as such I assume their respective quality, does anyone have any recommendations ?
Couple of points:
The sails look to be from a Cal-2-29, not sure if that makes a difference.
The boat is moored in mid New Jersey so the weather can be a little extreme at both ends of the scale !.
Thanks in advance,
Grae
RE: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Rogers, Christopher C.2010-08-04 12:33 UTC
Check out "Sailrite.com"
They will sell you a kit, or for a little extra, will finish it for you
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of graemorrison
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:03 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a 1972 Cal-29 - my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in pretty good shape (for a 38 year old!) and well looked after by the previous owner, however, as with most boats there are a number of things that need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing I need to do is replace the main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices vary considerably and as such I assume their respective quality, does anyone have any recommendations ?
Couple of points:
The sails look to be from a Cal-2-29, not sure if that makes a difference.
The boat is moored in mid New Jersey so the weather can be a little extreme at both ends of the scale !.
Thanks in advance,
Grae
Re: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
chris1232010-08-04 12:42 UTC
Congratulations
Where in NJ and whats the name of the boat?
That's the one that's on BB. It has one mod on it that the Les put on as it
may have a tendency to wear at the mast winch. Sew in a piece of leather to
cover that area on the inside or the cover as it helps in that regards. Its
a nice unit.
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Wayne Gillikin2010-08-04 13:03 UTC
Grae,
I live in Northern NJ and keep my boat on the Western LIS. When I needed a new
Mainsail cover 2 years ago I got lots of prices and used Remy's Canvass Cushions
& Drapes on City Island. I have lazy jacks and wanted the cover to fit with
them in place. Remy made the cover for what others wanted as an extra charge to
make the cuts for the lazy jacks. All you do is send Remy the old cover and she
will replicate it. Her canvas work is excellent.
http://www.superpages.com/bp/Bronx-NY/Remys-Canvass-Cushions-Drapes-L0094435974.htm
Regards,
Wayne
From: graemorrison <gr… [at] gtmorrison.net>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 4:02:50 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a 1972 Cal-29 -
my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in pretty good shape (for a 38
year old!) and well looked after by the previous owner, however, as with most
boats there are a number of things that need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing
I need to do is replace the main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices
vary considerably and as such I assume their respective quality, does anyone
have any recommendations ?
Couple of points:
The sails look to be from a Cal-2-29, not sure if that makes a difference.
The boat is moored in mid New Jersey so the weather can be a little extreme at
both ends of the scale !.
Thanks in advance,
Grae
Re: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Chris Campbell2010-08-04 13:09 UTC
graemorrison wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a
> 1972 Cal-29 - my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in pretty
> good shape (for a 38 year old!) and well looked after by the previous
> owner, however, as with most boats there are a number of things that
> need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing I need to do is replace the
> main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices vary considerably
> and as such I assume their respective quality, does anyone have any
> recommendations
>
If you're a real cheapskate like me, buy a bunch of Sunbrella in a
suitable color and sew it on over the original sail cover. My original
sail cover was badly sun-rotted so I covered it with Sunbrella, leaving
the original edges with their well-placed grommets, which I use. The I
went back and cut out most of the old cover. Looks good, except for my
stitches that wander a bit because of trying to sew a great big item on
a small sewing machine sitting on a tiny table. But from 15 feet, you
can't tell.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
David Wilkie Owen2010-08-04 15:06 UTC
Welcome to the Cal list.
The 29 and 2-29 share the same main sail size. I happen to have an
extra sail cover. It is the medium blue and it workable shape. I
have been meaning to put it on ebay. If you paid the shipping, I
would give it to you as a welcome to the Cal list.
Wilkie
On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:02 AM, graemorrison wrote:
> Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a
> 1972 Cal-29 - my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in
> pretty good shape (for a 38 year old!) and well looked after by the
> previous owner, however, as with most boats there are a number of
> things that need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing I need to do is
> replace the main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices vary
> considerably and as such I assume their respective quality, does
> anyone have any recommendations ?
>
> Couple of points:
>
> The sails look to be from a Cal-2-29, not sure if that makes a
> difference.
>
> The boat is moored in mid New Jersey so the weather can be a little
> extreme at both ends of the scale !.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Grae
>
>
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Husar, Charlie [USA]2010-08-04 15:35 UTC
Here is a mail order place I bought tiller covers from (they do all sorts of "canvas"). They do not use Sunbrella. I requested a sample of the cloth, and they mailed it to me. Seems OK. No word on longevity yet (just got the covers). Workmanship looks good to me.
http://leesailcovers.com/_wsn/page2.html?gclid=CMLCmZ6SoKMCFQ1HnQod4VoVmA
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rogers, Christopher C.
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:34 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Check out "Sailrite.com"
They will sell you a kit, or for a little extra, will finish it for you
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of graemorrison
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:03 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Mailsail Cover
Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a 1972 Cal-29 - my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in pretty good shape (for a 38 year old!) and well looked after by the previous owner, however, as with most boats there are a number of things that need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing I need to do is replace the main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices vary considerably and as such I assume their respective quality, does anyone have any recommendations ?
Couple of points:
The sails look to be from a Cal-2-29, not sure if that makes a difference.
The boat is moored in mid New Jersey so the weather can be a little extreme at both ends of the scale !.
Thanks in advance,
Grae
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker
Greg Reinhard2010-08-04 15:57 UTC
Here is a link to Laura Deckker's blog, She is trying to be the youngest girl
to circumnavigate.
http://www.lauradekker.nl/English/Basis.aspx?Tid=5019&Sid=5038&Hmi=5038&Smi=5038
greg
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker
Chris Campbell2010-08-04 16:20 UTC
Greg Reinhard wrote:
>
> Here is a link to Laura Deckker's blog, She is trying to be the
> youngest girl to circumnavigate.
>
> http://www.lauradekker.nl/English/Basis.aspx?Tid=5019&Sid=5038&Hmi=5038&Smi=5038
> greg
I don't know about the rest of you, but at that age, I had no capacity
for contemplating and planning such an undertaking. Maybe that's just a
confession of personal inadequacy, but I'll bet that it applies to most
kids. There always seems to be a parent in the background, pushing
surreptitiously and often with $$$ signs in the eyes. Or maybe I'm just
an old cynic.
Chris Campbell
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker
Allen Edwards2010-08-04 16:40 UTC
Seems too young to me but from what I read she must be ready and capable as
the courts have so ruled.
Allen
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Greg Reinhard <gr… [at] yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
> Here is a link to Laura Deckker's blog, She is trying to be the youngest
> girl to circumnavigate.
>
>
> http://www.lauradekker.nl/English/Basis.aspx?Tid=5019&Sid=5038&Hmi=5038&Smi=5038
> greg
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
Wayne Gillikin2010-08-04 16:50 UTC
Old cynic? Probably. But it doesn't make you wrong. I am very concerned about
this oneupsmenship of youngest around the world alone. It is a dangerous game
to play with kids. While I'm sure this young girl is quite extraordinary and
very mature for her age she would not even be allowed to make a legal contract
in the US at that age. Why? Because as a society we don't think kids at that
age have had sufficient experience to make those kinds of commitments. Setting
off around the world alone in a sailboat is one hell of a commitment. I am just
not sure that a young girl of her tender years has the experience to make that
commitment. After Laura who will be next and at what age? I shudder to think.
Do one of these kids have to get killed before this mindless competition stops?
I keep wondering where the adults are.
I, like many at that age, was lucky to be able to find my head with both hands
let alone sail across an ocean.
Regards,
Wayne
From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 12:20:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker
Greg Reinhard wrote:
>Here is a link to Laura Deckker's blog, She is trying to be the youngest girl
>to circumnavigate.
>
>http://www.lauradek ker.nl/English/ Basis.aspx?
>Tid=5019&Sid=5038&Hmi=5038&Smi=5038
>
>greg
>
I don't know about the rest of you, but at that age, I had no capacity for
contemplating and planning such an undertaking. Maybe that's just a confession
of personal inadequacy, but I'll bet that it applies to most kids. There always
seems to be a parent in the background, pushing surreptitiously and often with
$$$ signs in the eyes. Or maybe I'm just an old cynic.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
Chris Campbell2010-08-04 18:30 UTC
Wa
> After Laura who will be next and at what age? I shudder to think.
> Do one of these kids have to get killed before this mindless
> competition stops? I keep wondering where the adults are.
They are making arrangements at the bank or investment advisor, I suspect.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
mike farrell2010-08-04 22:54 UTC
Remember the 14 year old girl that crashed her aircraft taking off to set a
record? This was some years ago
. This affects all sailors.
My Best, Mike F.
From: Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 9:50:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
Old cynic? Probably. But it doesn't make you wrong. I am very concerned about
this oneupsmenship of youngest around the world alone. It is a dangerous game
to play with kids. While I'm sure this young girl is quite extraordinary and
very mature for her age she would not even be allowed to make a legal contract
in the US at that age. Why? Because as a society we don't think kids at that
age have had sufficient experience to make those kinds of commitments. Setting
off around the world alone in a sailboat is one hell of a commitment. I am just
not sure that a young girl of her tender years has the experience to make that
commitment. After Laura who will be next and at what age? I shudder to think.
Do one of these kids have to get killed before this mindless competition stops?
I keep wondering where the adults are.
I, like many at that age, was lucky to be able to find my head with both hands
let alone sail across an ocean.
Regards,
Wayne
From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 12:20:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker
Greg Reinhard wrote:
>Here is a link to Laura Deckker's blog, She is trying to be the youngest girl
>to circumnavigate.
>
>http://www.lauradek ker.nl/English/ Basis.aspx?
>Tid=5019&Sid=5038&Hmi=5038&Smi=5038
>
>greg
>
I don't know about the rest of you, but at that age, I had no capacity for
contemplating and planning such an undertaking. Maybe that's just a confession
of personal inadequacy, but I'll bet that it applies to most kids. There always
seems to be a parent in the background, pushing surreptitiously and often with
$$$ signs in the eyes. Or maybe I'm just an old cynic.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
mike farrell2010-08-04 23:56 UTC
YUP!!!
From: Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 9:50:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
Old cynic? Probably. But it doesn't make you wrong. I am very concerned about
this oneupsmenship of youngest around the world alone. It is a dangerous game
to play with kids. While I'm sure this young girl is quite extraordinary and
very mature for her age she would not even be allowed to make a legal contract
in the US at that age. Why? Because as a society we don't think kids at that
age have had sufficient experience to make those kinds of commitments. Setting
off around the world alone in a sailboat is one hell of a commitment. I am just
not sure that a young girl of her tender years has the experience to make that
commitment. After Laura who will be next and at what age? I shudder to think.
Do one of these kids have to get killed before this mindless competition stops?
I keep wondering where the adults are.
I, like many at that age, was lucky to be able to find my head with both hands
let alone sail across an ocean.
Regards,
Wayne
From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 12:20:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker
Greg Reinhard wrote:
>Here is a link to Laura Deckker's blog, She is trying to be the youngest girl
>to circumnavigate.
>
>http://www.lauradek ker.nl/English/ Basis.aspx?
>Tid=5019&Sid=5038&Hmi=5038&Smi=5038
>
>greg
>
I don't know about the rest of you, but at that age, I had no capacity for
contemplating and planning such an undertaking. Maybe that's just a confession
of personal inadequacy, but I'll bet that it applies to most kids. There always
seems to be a parent in the background, pushing surreptitiously and often with
$$$ signs in the eyes. Or maybe I'm just an old cynic.
Chris Campbell
Re: Mailsail Cover
Dan Soltzberg2010-08-05 04:28
Hi David,
I bought a 1974 2-29 about a month ago, and my mainsail cover's in pretty rough shape. If Grae, the original poster, doesn't want the mainsail cover you offered, I'd be interested and would be glad to pay the shipping. I'm in zip code 95018.
Excuse me for jumping on this, but I didn't want the offer to go to waste. Let me know - thanks!
Dan
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, David Wilkie Owen <dwowen@...> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to the Cal list.
>
> The 29 and 2-29 share the same main sail size. I happen to have an
> extra sail cover. It is the medium blue and it workable shape. I
> have been meaning to put it on ebay. If you paid the shipping, I
> would give it to you as a welcome to the Cal list.
>
> Wilkie
>
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:02 AM, graemorrison wrote:
>
> > Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a
> > 1972 Cal-29 - my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in
> > pretty good shape (for a 38 year old!) and well looked after by the
> > previous owner, however, as with most boats there are a number of
> > things that need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing I need to do is
> > replace the main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices vary
> > considerably and as such I assume their respective quality, does
> > anyone have any recommendations ?
> >
> > Couple of points:
> >
> > The sails look to be from a Cal-2-29, not sure if that makes a
> > difference.
> >
> > The boat is moored in mid New Jersey so the weather can be a little
> > extreme at both ends of the scale !.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Grae
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Mailsail Cover
Grae Morrison2010-08-05 08:09 UTC
Hi guys,
thanks to all for your posts, especially thanks to Dan for the offer of
a his extra cover but I'm on vacation in England at the moment, it's
where I hail from originally and I go back every couple of years to
catch up and will not be back in the US for a little while and if David
has a more dire need, my cover is serviceable, at least to the end of
the season, and can cope till then but again thanks for the offer.
With regard to Chris123 - I'm moored in the Navesink and she's called
'Destiny' (hopefully prophetic - in a good way !)
Cheers,
Grae
On 05/08/2010 00:28, Dan Soltzberg wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> I bought a 1974 2-29 about a month ago, and my mainsail cover's in
> pretty rough shape. If Grae, the original poster, doesn't want the
> mainsail cover you offered, I'd be interested and would be glad to pay
> the shipping. I'm in zip code 95018.
>
> Excuse me for jumping on this, but I didn't want the offer to go to
> waste. Let me know - thanks!
>
> Dan
>
> --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>,
> David Wilkie Owen <dwowen@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the Cal list.
> >
> > The 29 and 2-29 share the same main sail size. I happen to have an
> > extra sail cover. It is the medium blue and it workable shape. I
> > have been meaning to put it on ebay. If you paid the shipping, I
> > would give it to you as a welcome to the Cal list.
> >
> > Wilkie
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:02 AM, graemorrison wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Just like to introduce myself to the group. I've just bought a
> > > 1972 Cal-29 - my first boat - which as far as I can tell is in
> > > pretty good shape (for a 38 year old!) and well looked after by the
> > > previous owner, however, as with most boats there are a number of
> > > things that need a 'bit of tlc' but the first thing I need to do is
> > > replace the main sail cover, I've looked online and the prices vary
> > > considerably and as such I assume their respective quality, does
> > > anyone have any recommendations ?
> > >
> > > Couple of points:
> > >
> > > The sails look to be from a Cal-2-29, not sure if that makes a
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > The boat is moored in mid New Jersey so the weather can be a little
> > > extreme at both ends of the scale !.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Grae
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
mike farrell2010-08-11 09:24 UTC
You may be as old as I am. I don't think you are a cynic. I concur with
what you say. It is the unfulfilled dreams of her parents or the quest for
financial gain , recognition, publicity, etc. Remember the Balloon Boy who was
"lost" when the balloon broke loose and a rescue was put in place. Later his
parents were arrested for the scam when it was discovered he was never in the
balloon in the first place. Yes Wayne, a child will be lost at sea as this will
continue so long as the publicity brings income to whomever seeks it.
My Best, Mike
From: Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 9:50:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker (Chris)
Old cynic? Probably. But it doesn't make you wrong. I am very concerned about
this oneupsmenship of youngest around the world alone. It is a dangerous game
to play with kids. While I'm sure this young girl is quite extraordinary and
very mature for her age she would not even be allowed to make a legal contract
in the US at that age. Why? Because as a society we don't think kids at that
age have had sufficient experience to make those kinds of commitments. Setting
off around the world alone in a sailboat is one hell of a commitment. I am just
not sure that a young girl of her tender years has the experience to make that
commitment. After Laura who will be next and at what age? I shudder to think.
Do one of these kids have to get killed before this mindless competition stops?
I keep wondering where the adults are.
I, like many at that age, was lucky to be able to find my head with both hands
let alone sail across an ocean.
Regards,
Wayne
From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 12:20:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Laura Deckker
Greg Reinhard wrote:
>Here is a link to Laura Deckker's blog, She is trying to be the youngest girl
>to circumnavigate.
>
>http://www.lauradek ker.nl/English/ Basis.aspx?
>Tid=5019&Sid=5038&Hmi=5038&Smi=5038
>
>greg
>
I don't know about the rest of you, but at that age, I had no capacity for
contemplating and planning such an undertaking. Maybe that's just a confession
of personal inadequacy, but I'll bet that it applies to most kids. There always
seems to be a parent in the background, pushing surreptitiously and often with
$$$ signs in the eyes. Or maybe I'm just an old cynic.
Chris Campbell