Re: [Cal_Boats] wetsnails(Helen)

Jerry, Norcal westsail phrf has 2 boats, one is Cape farewell, phrf 225, has 3 blade fixed prop, no spinnaker, other is Saraband phrf 216 and downwind 162 sym. spinnaker. there are some differing sail measurements and they are both cutter rig. Were any fully factory finished? I thought they were owner finished, thereby quality and design depended upon the owner,and I knew of two that weren't finished even into the 90's. Cape Farewell is a 1975 and Saraband doesn't indicate year in the rating page. The Cape has a lead keel and the saraband has a lead and steel keel.for what it's worth, Helen From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 12:47:47 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] wetsnails(Helen) Helen, I got to drive a Cal 29 some years back, and I remember being very impressed with its sweet handling characteristics, smooth ride and its beautifully balanced helm. The owner was boasting about what a great deal he got ($9000) after "laying in wait" for one for a number of years. It was roomy enough down below that he was slow dancing with a gal he'd invited aboard (it was a Marina Single Sailors outing, after all), and later they disappeared into the V berth for over half an hour. I didn't mind, we were enjoying sailing his boat on a beautiful day in the Santa Monica Bay. I must admit, the Westsail 32 pictured looks like a real beauty, especially below, and with that tall a mast carrying that much sail it couldn't be a total slouch. I wonder what its PHRF rating is? Jerry --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: >From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] wetsnails >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 12:24 AM > > > >sailed twice to Santa Cruz Island, anchored in quite a few places, explored , >hiked to the top, anchored at Anacapa and climbed the ladder and checked out the >lighthouse and the odd plant that covers it called Mugwort. Fished around, >caught, cooked and ate the catch. A week at a time, in a Catalina 30 chartered >out of SB. One trip over was fairly quiet, not much wind after the fog burned >off, but whales, dolphins and flying fish. A long ride. The next trip had us in >the troughs halfway across with towering waves breaking over us. In the channel! >I slept half a day away on the hook. On the way back, dodging a huge ship in the >shipping lane made me happy to have an agile boat.None of these events would >have been any better in a Westsail.(this was in the 70's) Also I forgot about >Alajuela, a friend and I custom ordered the hull in Costa Mesa, watched them >mold, chopper, etc. a very beefy hull. Then we had it delivered to Ron and John >Moore's yard in Santa Cruz so we could finish if off, much like the westsail >program. I eventually sold my half as I lost interest. It was finished and >actually sailed to Alaska. They are all so different and finished to the talents >of the owners, same with Westsail but there are more of those.I do like double >enders, there is a charm to them and they are a more comfortable ride. Also was >part owner of an old but venerable double-ended wooden salmon troll vessel. Top >speed 4 knots. Stinky diesel, no thanks. I like sailing monohulls, racing and >the performance challenge and the cals seem to handle just about everything and >you can push them for more. Having acquired the cal 36 this year and now getting >her out on the ocean I'm amazed at how easy it is to sail, can't get enough but >keep having to go home and fix things like the well and keeping the weeds down. >Then we race the 29 on wednesdays and a friend's catalina 30 on tuesdays. > > >Life is too short for a westsail when you like to race. HH > > > > From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 5:42:29 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] wetsnails > > >Helen, >When it comes to sailing, isn't getting there most of the fun? I mean, when you >get to Catalina or Channel Islands, what's there that is as much or more fun >then the trip over. I'm all ears, maybe I'm missing something. Not to say that >free diving around the reefs looking at the kelp fauna and flora isn't fun, or >hiking the trails and seeing the vistas. >Anyway, that's why I decided on a small boat, although at times I wish it were a >lot roomier inside. >Jerry > >--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >>From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >>Subject: [Cal_Boats] wetsnails >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 1:40 PM >> >> >> >>Before I bought my 29, I raced on Santa Cruz 27 and Santana 35 as well as sail >>(still) my force 5. When I got serious about owning my own big boat, I spent 2 >>years shopping. 30 years prior to that I had been building my own surfboards. I >>think that a Westsail, almost got one, or an Island Packet (my house doesn't >>even look that fancy) are nice boats to live on BUT, my Santa Cruz >>boatbuilding/racing friends reminded me whenever I found a new potential >>sailboat, the simple question is: Do you want to get there and have fun or do >>you want to spend all your time getting there? Plus, IPs cost more than my >>house. Thus the need for the LLoyd's insurance policy. I think most IPs and >>Westsails(those that ever got finished) spend most of their lives at the dock. >>HH >>