Re: [Cal_Boats] Taken

Loren - Is this boatyard where you have to do business in the future ie: can you get hauled or work done anywhere else? If you have options I would not hesitate to stiff them or have a male friend call them up and get a price for mast stepping on a boat with a similar mast set up (ie: deck or keel stepped etc) and see what they say. If it different, send them a check for that amountl As far as your anemometer it could have been damaged in shipping but more than likely there is just a bad wire connection. Does it have a plug at the base of the mast or do alll the wires have to be spliced together? I just had to re-splice mine today as I do not have a plug. If they are the only game in town, you'll need to fork out the $$ this time but from now on, get an estimate before they touch your boat and then try to verify that's what it should cost. Stepping my mast on my keel stepped Cal 39 cost me about $300 if I remember correctly and I am on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. That involved a crane and 4 guys at $75 per hour. Good luck - Paul West '80 Cal 39 Adventure Kwest In a message dated 8/22/2010 2:03:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, he… [at] sbcglobal.net writes: Did they have the yard electrician hook up the electrical through the step and did you talk to him/her? (ha ha) When the pro's stepped our mast after rerigging, they had to unstep it because the master electrician turned the plug-ins and nothing would go on(new tricolor) and they did it immediately to fix it. However, he did go take a few deep breaths and I think he had less hair when he came back. We didn't pay extra for that time and trouble. (Berkeley). But before you get too excited, check for fuses just in case. Does anything else on the mast work? Helen P.S. I always do my own work and I watch others very closely (I watched the mast stepping from more than mast height away, fear factor). From: Loren <cl… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 7:56:00 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Taken Hi Group, I feel like I was taken to the cleaners this week. I had my cal2-29 trucked to it's new home at the beginning of this month. I was not able to be there when it arrived and was launched so the mast was not stepped. I contacted with the boatyard to have it stepped and was put on a schedule two weeks out. When they finally got to it they charged me over 600 dollars a 6 hours labor in addition to crane fees. Now my anemometer doesn't work and of course it wasn't their fault! Now it just nicely spins around up there on the top of my mast with no purpose. I'm pretty upset, but what can I do? I can't prove that it was workin before or not damaged by trucking it. I just feel like I was taken for a ride! Loren Cal 2-29

Thanks for the feedback group, and btw I'm a male, it happens all the time On Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 4:59 AM PDT chris123 wrote: >Sorry to hear about your troubles. If it helps to ease the pain any, I asked >for a quote to have my 29 mast removed in the Chesapeake while down there. I >was quoted 600 to have it removed. He was a rather nice guy and I was, had >to spend the winter there so I did not take a strip out of him. I asked him >why it was so expensive as back home its either free or a 100 bucks at the >most, this embarrassed him a bit and we parted ways. Next day I met him in >the only coffee shop in town where he admitted it was the going rate be even >he thought it was ridiculous. > >David is correct, pending on where you are because you are a woman you got >taken to the cleaners, If you were a male and new to the yard the same would >have happened. I have learned the hard way that while in the States, you >need to ask first, get it in writing, bargain like a Gypsy which works most >of the time as long as you keep the humor up, and then be there when the >work is done, inspect the work, then pay for it. > >The PO on my boat paid 125 to have a crimp fitting repaired on the boat. It >was so poorly done I could pull it apart with two finger on the wire. This >was the green wire black wire coming from the AC electrical fitting..Ouch. >that could have been dangerous. They don't care at all. Times are hard and >they want your money, whether male or female. I always approach yard people >in my work clothes. > >/ch

Woops, my apologies. With a last name like mine you can imagine the derivatives that I get called most of time....it also doesn't bother me anymore. /ch

ours is around a 1000.00. http://www.anchorswaymarine.com/pages/rate_sheet.htm From: Loren <cl… [at] yahoo.com> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 8:49:00 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Taken Thanks for the feedback group, and btw I'm a male, it happens all the time On Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 4:59 AM PDT chris123 wrote: >Sorry to hear about your troubles. If it helps to ease the pain any, I asked >for a quote to have my 29 mast removed in the Chesapeake while down there. I >was quoted 600 to have it removed. He was a rather nice guy and I was, had >to spend the winter there so I did not take a strip out of him. I asked him >why it was so expensive as back home its either free or a 100 bucks at the >most, this embarrassed him a bit and we parted ways. Next day I met him in >the only coffee shop in town where he admitted it was the going rate be even >he thought it was ridiculous. > >David is correct, pending on where you are because you are a woman you got >taken to the cleaners, If you were a male and new to the yard the same would >have happened. I have learned the hard way that while in the States, you >need to ask first, get it in writing, bargain like a Gypsy which works most >of the time as long as you keep the humor up, and then be there when the >work is done, inspect the work, then pay for it. > >The PO on my boat paid 125 to have a crimp fitting repaired on the boat. It >was so poorly done I could pull it apart with two finger on the wire. This >was the green wire black wire coming from the AC electrical fitting..Ouch. >that could have been dangerous. They don't care at all. Times are hard and >they want your money, whether male or female. I always approach yard people >in my work clothes. > >/ch

All I can say is wow.....Are there no options in your area? For example, along the Hudson a very popular route for snow birds heading south in the fall, the place to go is check this, Hop-a-Nose Marine (and its on the net too) They pull your stick for 150 bucks regardless of the size, and build two cribs out of 2x4's and plywood to "your specs", high, low, port or starboard at the stern so you can move around. Going North the mast is usually on the port side as you lock in on starboard. All you bring is the 1"-2" tie down ratchet straps. Entire process takes less then 2 hrs. Now these guys could make a killing as you line up, sometime for a day to get in due to volume. But they don't. To me thats simply integrity. /ch

"Sorrow can take care of itself alone, pure joy must be shared" (my bastardized version of a quote I read some time ago) I'm lucky to have a wife who enjoys sailing as much as I do ;-) Paul In a message dated 8/24/2010 10:26:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cl… [at] charterinternet.com writes: mike farrell wrote: ps. I had a lovely sunday sail with my best crew! I was alone. This reminds me of a famous quote: When President _John F. Kennedy_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy) welcomed 49 _Nobel Prize_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize) winners to the _White House_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House) in 1962 he said, "I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent and of human knowledge that has ever been gathered together at the White House – with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone." I am my own most reliable crew--whenever I decide to go sailing, I am available. I've probably been sailing on my boats about 40 times this summer and had additional crew along one time so far. It's easy to lose the habit of calling people. Of course, there are some that you must call as a matter of duty and reciprocal favor. I've lucked out on one guy that I owe a sail--have called three times and he's not been available each time. One thing about having crew--it's sure convenient to have extra hands, especially when raising or dousing sail in crowded or lumpy conditions. Chris Campbell aka the Thomas Jefferson of local sailing

pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > > "Sorrow can take care of itself alone, pure joy must be shared" (my > bastardized version of a quote I read some time ago) Isn't this why we have cell phones--so we can call from the boat and exclaim over our great good fortune to be sailing? Chris Campbell

Or tell our fearless leader we will be somewhat late coming in. As my Mother said " Time and tide wait for no man." My Best, Mike From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:48:47 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Taken pw… [at] aol.com wrote: >"Sorrow can take care of itself alone, pure joy must be shared" (my bastardized >version of a quote I read some time ago) Isn't this why we have cell phones--so we can call from the boat and exclaim over our great good fortune to be sailing? Chris Campbell

I prefer to sail beyond cell phone reception. From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:48:47 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Taken pw… [at] aol.com wrote: >"Sorrow can take care of itself alone, pure joy must be shared" (my bastardized >version of a quote I read some time ago) Isn't this why we have cell phones--so we can call from the boat and exclaim over our great good fortune to be sailing? Chris Campbell

Me too -- Sent from my Palm Pixi On Aug 24, 2010 15:44, Lord Nougat &lt;lo… [at] yahoo.com&gt; wrote: &nbsp; I prefer to sail beyond cell phone reception. From: Chris Campbell &lt;cl… [at] charterinternet.com&gt; To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:48:47 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Taken &nbsp; pw… [at] aol.com wrote: &nbsp; "Sorrow can take care of itself alone, pure joy must be shared"&nbsp; (my bastardized version of&nbsp;a quote I read some time ago) Isn't this why we have cell phones--so we can call from the boat and exclaim over our great good fortune to be sailing? Chris Campbell