RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability - loose shrouds

RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability - loose shrouds

3 messages2010-08-26 00:41 UTCthrough 2010-08-26 11:26 UTC

RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability - loose shrouds

Paul2010-08-26 00:41 UTC
ti… [at] ch2m.com wrote: >On the Columbia river fleet 43 the Cal 20 shrouds are very sloppy - so loose that the mast can pivot 3'0"- 5'0" at the mast tip, that way you can crank against the lee shrouds, and get a better angle upwind, use a barber hauler, we also play the backstay a lot so downwind the mast really stands tall. We race level fleet with spinnakers. > >From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:54 PM >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability > > > >r good wrote: > > >could the fairleads be for twings or barber hauls? > >Don't think so...the sheet would be bearing too hard against the leeward shroud if you used them for that purpose. At first I thought they had more to do with the spinnaker gear and turning blocks for that at the mast step, especially because there are some small cam and clam cleats downstream of the fairleads. But lately I've been wondering if they were for inboard sheeting and have just been too lazy to find out. > >I had been planning on getting some work done at home this evening instead of sailing. The weather forecast was for rain. It's nice to have an occasional excuse not to go sailing, so those necessary chores can get done. But when the weather is nice, I just can't not go sailing. There will be ample time in October and November, not to mention March & April, for not going sailing. Now, when the weather is tolerable, I sail at every opportunity. Someday I'll be old & decrepit and then I can worry about a nice lawn or an orderly house or a properly balanced checkbook. > >My niece is living on Lake Tahoe and just saw the famous mahogany commuter boat Thunderbird, and she was astonished to learn that it had been built in Bay City, MI where her father and I grew up and where my other boat lies. So I sent her a long e-mail about the builder (Ben Huskins) and designer (John Hacker) and the Gougeon Brothers who bought the builder's shop and then I veered off into designs of the '30s and 1938 Buicks, and Dorothea Lange and her FSA photos, and my great hero, FDR, and on and on. Suddenly it occurred to me how much people miss when they sit at home and balance their checkbooks and worry about their lawns instead of going sailing or doing other interesting things out in this fascinating world we live in. > >And so since the forecast is not for a "slight chance of rain," and since there seems to be a nice breeze from the north, it's likely that I'll ride the bike down to the dinghy and go sailing after all. Maybe I'll try that inboard sheeting option and see how the boat behaves. Just don't complain about my messy house. > >Chris Campbell >privileged to live in this wonderful place >and to sail the Cal 20 > >________________________________ >

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability - loose shrouds

mike farrell2010-08-26 01:16 UTC
YUP! Same on SF Bay. My best, Mike From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 5:41:05 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability - loose shrouds ti… [at] ch2m.com wrote: >On the Columbia river fleet 43 the Cal 20 shrouds are very sloppy - so loose >that the mast can pivot 3'0"- 5'0" at the mast tip, that way you can crank >against the lee shrouds, and get a better angle upwind, use a barber hauler, we >also play the backstay a lot so downwind the mast really stands tall. We race >level fleet with spinnakers. > >From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of >Chris Campbell >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:54 PM >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability > > > >r good wrote: > > >could the fairleads be for twings or barber hauls? > >Don't think so...the sheet would be bearing too hard against the leeward shroud >if you used them for that purpose. At first I thought they had more to do with >the spinnaker gear and turning blocks for that at the mast step, especially >because there are some small cam and clam cleats downstream of the fairleads. >But lately I've been wondering if they were for inboard sheeting and have just >been too lazy to find out. > >I had been planning on getting some work done at home this evening instead of >sailing. The weather forecast was for rain. It's nice to have an occasional >excuse not to go sailing, so those necessary chores can get done. But when the >weather is nice, I just can't not go sailing. There will be ample time in >October and November, not to mention March & April, for not going sailing. Now, >when the weather is tolerable, I sail at every opportunity. Someday I'll be old >& decrepit and then I can worry about a nice lawn or an orderly house or a >properly balanced checkbook. > >My niece is living on Lake Tahoe and just saw the famous mahogany commuter boat >Thunderbird, and she was astonished to learn that it had been built in Bay City, >MI where her father and I grew up and where my other boat lies. So I sent her a >long e-mail about the builder (Ben Huskins) and designer (John Hacker) and the >Gougeon Brothers who bought the builder's shop and then I veered off into >designs of the '30s and 1938 Buicks, and Dorothea Lange and her FSA photos, >and my great hero, FDR, and on and on. Suddenly it occurred to me how much >people miss when they sit at home and balance their checkbooks and worry about >their lawns instead of going sailing or doing other interesting things out in >this fascinating world we live in. > >And so since the forecast is not for a "slight chance of rain," and since there >seems to be a nice breeze from the north, it's likely that I'll ride the bike >down to the dinghy and go sailing after all. Maybe I'll try that inboard >sheeting option and see how the boat behaves. Just don't complain about my >messy house. > >Chris Campbell >privileged to live in this wonderful place >and to sail the Cal 20 > >________________________________ > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability - loose shrouds

pw… [at] aol.com2010-08-26 11:26 UTC
Twilight zone stuff going on . . . the message below came up in my mailbox as if I had sent it but I did not . . . soooo who knows wtf is going on? Paul pwestla at aol dot com In a message dated 8/25/2010 8:41:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pw… [at] aol.com writes: _t… [at] ch2m.com_ (mailto:ti… [at] ch2m.com) wrote: >On the Columbia river fleet 43 the Cal 20 shrouds are very sloppy - so loose that the mast can pivot 3'0"- 5'0" at the mast tip, that way you can crank against the lee shrouds, and get a better angle upwind, use a barber hauler, we also play the backstay a lot so downwind the mast really stands tall. We race level fleet with spinnakers. > >From: _C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:54 PM >To: _C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 20 pointing ability > > > >r good wrote: > > >could the fairleads be for twings or barber hauls? > >Don't think so...the sheet would be bearing too hard against the leeward shroud if you used them for that purpose. At first I thought they had more to do with the spinnaker gear and turning blocks for that at the mast step, especially because there are some small cam and clam cleats downstream of the fairleads. But lately I've been wondering if they were for inboard sheeting and have just been too lazy to find out. > >I had been planning on getting some work done at home this evening instead of sailing. The weather forecast was for rain. It's nice to have an occasional excuse not to go sailing, so those necessary chores can get done. But when the weather is nice, I just can't not go sailing. There will be ample time in October and November, not to mention March & April, for not going sailing. Now, when the weather is tolerable, I sail at every opportunity. Someday I'll be old & decrepit and then I can worry about a nice lawn or an orderly house or a properly balanced checkbook. > >My niece is living on Lake Tahoe and just saw the famous mahogany commuter boat Thunderbird, and she was astonished to learn that it had been built in Bay City, MI where her father and I grew up and where my other boat lies. So I sent her a long e-mail about the builder (Ben Huskins) and designer (John Hacker) and the Gougeon Brothers who bought the builder's shop and then I veered off into designs of the '30s and 1938 Buicks, and Dorothea Lange and her FSA photos, and my great hero, FDR, and on and on. Suddenly it occurred to me how much people miss when they sit at home and balance their checkbooks and worry about their lawns instead of going sailing or doing other interesting things out in this fascinating world we live in. > >And so since the forecast is not for a "slight chance of rain," and since there seems to be a nice breeze from the north, it's likely that I'll ride the bike down to the dinghy and go sailing after all. Maybe I'll try that inboard sheeting option and see how the boat behaves. Just don't complain about my messy house. > >Chris Campbell >privileged to live in this wonderful place >and to sail the Cal 20 > >________________________________ >