Sailing Costs

Guys, It's obvious that sailing costs vary widely, depending on where you sail. I guess it boils down to that if you want to sail you pay the price. My price is $3000 for a 30' slip with nothing included for April 15 to October 30. You have to remember that the real season here is May 15 to September 30. Then it costs me $1000 for winter storage. Besides the incidental mast stepping costs, etc. Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if I want to sail that's what I pay. At some point I may decide that it's too much, but for now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. Regards, David Dobbs Cal29 411

Hi David, That is $330 montly for the equivalent of slip rent. Depending on where you are in the USA, this could be a very reasonable price. Here in Pensacola wet slip rental averages about $10 per foot of boat length each month plus metered electricity. I allow my cousin and uncle to keep their 35' boats at my dock for $200 each month, but since they do not live nearby, I have their boats hauled and dry stored for the hurricane season, July - November, so the costs are about the same as yours. Before we left SoCal in 1988, we were paying about $600 monthly for a slip for our Cal 46 in Long Beach. Tom Vandiver From: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 10:05:32 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs Guys, It's obvious that sailing costs vary widely, depending on where you sail. I guess it boils down to that if you want to sail you pay the price. My price is $3000 for a 30' slip with nothing included for April 15 to October 30. You have to remember that the real season here is May 15 to September 30. Then it costs me $1000 for winter storage. Besides the incidental mast stepping costs, etc. Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if I want to sail that's what I pay. At some point I may decide that it's too much, but for now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. Regards, David Dobbs Cal29 411

My 40 ft slip at the Port of Brookings Harbor, Or. (the banana belt of the northwest coast :) ) is $1500.00/yr. --- On Sat, 8/28/10, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 8:05 PM Guys, It's obvious that sailing costs vary widely, depending on where you sail. I guess it boils down to that if you want to sail you pay the price. My price is $3000 for a 30' slip with nothing included for April 15 to October 30. You have to remember that the real season here is May 15 to September 30. Then it costs me $1000 for winter storage. Besides the incidental mast stepping costs, etc. Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if I want to sail that's what I pay. At some point I may decide that it's too much, but for now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. Regards, David Dobbs Cal29 411

david dobbs wrote: > > > Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if > I want to sail that's what I pay. At some point I may decide that > it's too much, but for now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. > I've reached the age at which I notice that a bunch of my friends in other lines of work have retired already. (Sometimes I wonder who got the last laugh here, in terms of career choices). But whenever I think too hard about joining them in leisure, I remember that I have two boats to support, and a host of similar bad habits, so I show up at work on Monday. The equation is something like this: working + sailing > not working + not sailing. I've just ordered a new working jib for the other boat. The current one was new with the boat in 1961. All boats have ongoing maintenance costs like that. Short of winning the lottery, working is the most reliable way to keep sailing. Chris Campbell > >

Tom, It's reasonable based on a 12 month schedule. Our schedule is 5 months. My point was that if you want to sail a boat in Chicago you pay. I do. Regards, David Dobbs, Cal 29 411 --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:38 AM Hi David, That is $330 montly for the equivalent of slip rent. Depending on where you are in the USA, this could be a very reasonable price. Here in Pensacola wet slip rental averages about $10 per foot of boat length each month plus metered electricity. I allow my cousin and uncle to keep their 35' boats at my dock for $200 each month, but since they do not live nearby, I have their boats hauled and dry stored for the hurricane season, July - November, so the costs are about the same as yours. Before we left SoCal in 1988, we were paying about $600 monthly for a slip for our Cal 46 in Long Beach. Tom Vandiver From: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 10:05:32 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs Guys, It's obvious that sailing costs vary widely, depending on where you sail. I guess it boils down to that if you want to sail you pay the price. My price is $3000 for a 30' slip with nothing included for April 15 to October 30. You have to remember that the real season here is May 15 to September 30. Then it costs me $1000 for winter storage. Besides the incidental mast stepping costs, etc. Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if I want to sail that's what I pay. At some point I may decide that it's too much, but for now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. Regards, David Dobbs Cal29 411

I bought a new Genoa, spinnaker and main this year for my CAL 29. I was whimping about the prices, then North sails told me to think it about it this way. I am sailing almost every weekend this year, we are leading the Santa Barbra Channel and the Ventura county high points. Our Sailing season goes from Mid January to the 1st weekend in Dec. Break that down over a 2 year period and it is about 60.00 a weekend. Trish and I spend more than that at Black Angus when we both don't want to cook. So now we go to Black Angus, once a month and we are sailing. Where the boat was just sitting. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient From: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 9:30:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs Tom, It's reasonable based on a 12 month schedule. Our schedule is 5 months. My point was that if you want to sail a boat in Chicago you pay. I do. Regards, David Dobbs, Cal 29 411 --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: >From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:38 AM > > > >Hi David, > >That is $330 montly for the equivalent of slip rent. Depending on where you are >in the USA, this could be a very reasonable price. Here in Pensacola wet slip >rental averages about $10 per foot of boat length each month plus metered >electricity. > >I allow my cousin and uncle to keep their 35' boats at my dock for $200 each >month, but since they do not live nearby, I have their boats hauled and dry >stored for the hurricane season, July - November, so the costs are about the >same as yours. > >Before we left SoCal in 1988, we were paying about $600 monthly for a slip for >our Cal 46 in Long Beach. > >Tom Vandiver > > > > From: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 10:05:32 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs > > >Guys, >It's obvious that sailing costs vary widely, depending on where you sail. I >guess it boils down to that if you want to sail you pay the price. My price is >$3000 for a 30' slip with nothing included for April 15 to October 30. You have >to remember that the real season here is May 15 to September 30. Then it costs >me $1000 for winter storage. Besides the incidental mast stepping costs, etc. >Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if I want to >sail that's what I pay. At some point I may decide that it's too much, but for >now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. >Regards, >David Dobbs Cal29 411 > >

new sails every two years, Randy? I'm envious! Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sa… [at] yahoo.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:07:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs I bought a new Genoa, spinnaker and main this year for my CAL 29. I was whimping about the prices, then North sails told me to think it about it this way. I am sailing almost every weekend this year, we are leading the Santa Barbra Channel and the Ventura county high points. Our Sailing season goes from Mid January to the 1st weekend in Dec. Break that down over a 2 year period and it is about 60.00 a weekend. Trish and I spend more than that at Black Angus when we both don't want to cook. So now we go to Black Angus, once a month and we are sailing. Where the boat was just sitting. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient From: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 9:30:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs Tom, It's reasonable based on a 12 month schedule. Our schedule is 5 months. My point was that if you want to sail a boat in Chicago you pay. I do. Regards, David Dobbs, Cal 29 411 --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:38 AM Hi David, That is $330 montly for the equivalent of slip rent. Depending on where you are in the USA, this could be a very reasonable price. Here in Pensacola wet slip rental averages about $10 per foot of boat length each month plus metered electricity. I allow my cousin and uncle to keep their 35' boats at my dock for $200 each month, but since they do not live nearby, I have their boats hauled and dry stored for the hurricane season, July - November, so the costs are about the same as yours. Before we left SoCal in 1988, we were paying about $600 monthly for a slip for our Cal 46 in Long Beach. Tom Vandiver From: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 10:05:32 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs Guys, It's obvious that sailing costs vary widely, depending on where you sail. I guess it boils down to that if you want to sail you pay the price. My price is $3000 for a 30' slip with nothing included for April 15 to October 30. You have to remember that the real season here is May 15 to September 30. Then it costs me $1000 for winter storage. Besides the incidental mast stepping costs, etc. Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if I want to sail that's what I pay. At some point I may decide that it's too much, but for now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. Regards, David Dobbs Cal29 411

I wish I could by sails every 2 years. &nbsp;This is the first time I replaced sails on my boat, and I have owned her for over 10 years. &nbsp;I had the old spinnaker which was over sized and cost me 3 seconds a mile. Then my genoa blew out and they refused to sew and patch any more. When I got the new genoa we won more races, then when you look up and see that bag in the main, well, &nbsp;I just had to replace that as well. Now we are leading both the Santa Barbra channel and &nbsp;Ventura county points. &nbsp;I just figured I would get 10 more years out of them. &nbsp;One more year competetively, then pick the longer distance races and more island sailing. -- Sent from my Palm Pixi On Sep 1, 2010 5:40, r good &lt;my… [at] hotmail.com&gt; wrote: &nbsp; new sails every two years, Randy? I'm envious! Reggie &nbsp; To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: sa… [at] yahoo.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:07:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs &nbsp; I bought a new Genoa, spinnaker and main this year for my CAL 29. I was whimping about the prices, then North sails told me to think it about it this way. I am sailing almost every weekend this year, we are leading the Santa Barbra Channel and the Ventura county high points. Our Sailing season goes from Mid January to the 1st weekend in Dec. Break that down over&nbsp;a 2 year&nbsp;period&nbsp;and it is about 60.00 a weekend. Trish and I spend more than that at Black Angus when we both don't want to cook. So now we go to Black Angus, once a month and we are sailing. Where the boat was just sitting. &nbsp; Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient &nbsp; &nbsp; From: david dobbs &lt;tm… [at] yahoo.com&gt; To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 9:30:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs &nbsp; Tom, It's reasonable based on a 12 month schedule.&nbsp; Our schedule is 5 months.&nbsp; My point was that if you want to sail a boat in Chicago you pay.&nbsp; I do. Regards, David Dobbs,&nbsp; Cal 29 411 --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Tom Vandiver &lt;bs… [at] yahoo.com&gt; wrote: From: Tom Vandiver &lt;bs… [at] yahoo.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:38 AM &nbsp; Hi David, &nbsp; That is $330 montly for the equivalent of slip rent. Depending on where you are in the USA, this could be a very reasonable price. Here in Pensacola wet slip rental averages about $10 per foot of boat length each month plus metered electricity. &nbsp; I allow my cousin and uncle to keep their 35' boats at my dock for $200 each month, but since they do not live nearby, I have their boats hauled and dry stored for the hurricane season, July - November, so the costs are about the same as yours. &nbsp; Before we left SoCal in 1988, we were paying about $600 monthly for a slip for our Cal 46 in Long Beach. &nbsp; Tom Vandiver From: david dobbs &lt;tm… [at] yahoo.com&gt; To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 10:05:32 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailing Costs &nbsp; Guys, It's obvious that sailing costs vary widely, depending on where you sail.&nbsp; I guess it boils down to that if you want to sail you pay the price.&nbsp; My price is $3000 for a 30' slip with nothing included for April 15 to October 30.&nbsp; You have to remember that the real season here is May 15 to September 30.&nbsp; Then it costs me $1000 for winter storage.&nbsp; Besides the incidental mast stepping costs, etc.&nbsp; Of course I'd rather pay less, but that's what it costs here, and if I want to sail that's what I pay.&nbsp; At some point I may decide that it's too much, but for now it's what I enjoy and I will continue to pay. Regards, David Dobbs Cal29 411 &nbsp;

Randall Alcorn wrote: > > > I wish I could by sails every 2 years. This is the first time I > replaced sails on my boat, and I have owned her for over 10 years. > I've just ordered a new working jib for my other boat. It will replace the one that came with the boat in 1961. Not kidding. But of course, our sailing season runs from mid-May to mid-October for that boat. Chris Campbell

david dobbs wrote: > > > Tom, > It's reasonable based on a 12 month schedule. Our schedule is 5 > months. My point was that if you want to sail a boat in Chicago you > pay. I do. > Me too. Boat ownership makes no economic sense under any circumstances. But most of us do not reduce life to pure economics, nor do we choose to hang out with those who do. They aren't much fun. Sailing offers intangible rewards to those who enjoy it and we find the cash to pay. One reason I like the Cal 20 is that she's a cheap date. Lives on a free mooring; stays on a trailer outdoors in the winter. My other boat is more expensive: lives in a marina, indoors in the winter. Chris Campbell > > > >