(One of the Chris's) Cal 20 Hull

Cal 20 owners (apparently everyone named Chris).... Im being offered a derelict Cal20....Starboard side hull is bowing in at the screw pads....quite a bit on the aft starboard side....Will this pop back out? or should I just walk away? Otherwise, boat is a stock 60's never raced boat. Head liner aft of beam is already falling off so need to scrape. Otherwise, no bumps, dents, etc. George

On 11/8/2010 10:30 AM, george macon wrote: > > Cal 20 owners (apparently everyone named Chris).... > > > Im being offered a derelict Cal20....Starboard side hull is bowing in > at the screw pads....quite a bit on the aft starboard side....Will > this pop back out? or should I just walk away? Otherwise, boat is a > stock 60's never raced boat. Head liner aft of beam is already falling > off so need to scrape. Otherwise, no bumps, dents, etc. > Well, one of the Chrises will take a whack at the inquiry. The hull ought to pop back out. If not, you have access to almost the entire thing from the inside, so arrange something to push it back out and hold it there a while. Or, if it's really stubborn, you could epoxy a couple wood stringers--little battens--on the inside to hold it in the original position. This probably would not be necessary. And what's coming apart on the overhead isn't a headliner--it's the plywood core, which is necessary for deck strength. But luckily, it's pretty easy to replace from below (if a bit messy because of gravity). These boats are so simple that it's really easy to fix problems. And they are so much fun to sail that it's worth doing. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, /Martha C/

Thanks Chris....you have confirmed my assumptions. Thanks! To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:38:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] (One of the Chris's) Cal 20 Hull On 11/8/2010 10:30 AM, george macon wrote: Cal 20 owners (apparently everyone named Chris).... Im being offered a derelict Cal20....Starboard side hull is bowing in at the screw pads....quite a bit on the aft starboard side....Will this pop back out? or should I just walk away? Otherwise, boat is a stock 60's never raced boat. Head liner aft of beam is already falling off so need to scrape. Otherwise, no bumps, dents, etc. Well, one of the Chrises will take a whack at the inquiry. The hull ought to pop back out. If not, you have access to almost the entire thing from the inside, so arrange something to push it back out and hold it there a while. Or, if it's really stubborn, you could epoxy a couple wood stringers--little battens--on the inside to hold it in the original position. This probably would not be necessary. And what's coming apart on the overhead isn't a headliner--it's the plywood core, which is necessary for deck strength. But luckily, it's pretty easy to replace from below (if a bit messy because of gravity). These boats are so simple that it's really easy to fix problems. And they are so much fun to sail that it's worth doing. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, Martha C

Fron another Chris; Go for it....just check out why its bulge in, probably due to water penetration in the cabin and sitting there for a long time, so check things out thoroughly when you get her home...easiest boat ever to work on..and what Chris C said about sailing it....mine is still in the project stage....but Chris B's boat in RI which I have sailed a few times is a joy now that he modified the rudder. Spins on a dime and holds much better then the original on any point of sail. You will love this boat....and tempted to put extra money into her. So the recommendation is get her good to go, splash her, sail her for a season and then make the dreams come true with all the new gear. Best of luck, /ch

On 11/8/2010 1:32 PM, chris123 wrote: > > Fron another Chris; > > > > You will love this boat....and tempted to put extra money into her. So > the recommendation is get her good to go, splash her, sail her for a > season and then make the dreams come true with all the new gear. > Here's a free accessory--the "owner's manual," a club's compilation of info about rigging and sailing the boat: > http://www.ewind.com/user/sfcal20/cal20-owners-manual.pdf As an old cheapskate, my recommendation is to address important things like structural deficiencies first and make sure that the boat is safe & seaworthy. Then work a bit on cosmetics--I have a whole collection of boat quotes to the general effect that a well cared for boat takes better care of her skipper. Make sure you have sails that are at least pretty good. Make the acquaintance of Steve Seal, an honest vendor and a guy who knows his Cal 20s. He told me not to buy pricey keel bolts from him until I had verified that I needed them. He also sells the heavier-duty spreader brackets (mandatory) and a heavier backstay (my original started to fail). Here's Steve's site: > http://www.sealsspars.com/ Then indulge in wild spending on "stuff." Chris Campbell

Does anyone have such a thing for the Cal 2-24? Thanks, Don From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] (One of the Chris's) Cal 20 Hull On 11/8/2010 1:32 PM, chris123 wrote: Fron another Chris; You will love this boat....and tempted to put extra money into her. So the recommendation is get her good to go, splash her, sail her for a season and then make the dreams come true with all the new gear. Here's a free accessory--the "owner's manual," a club's compilation of info about rigging and sailing the boat: http://www.ewind.com/user/sfcal20/cal20-owners-manual.pdf As an old cheapskate, my recommendation is to address important things like structural deficiencies first and make sure that the boat is safe & seaworthy. Then work a bit on cosmetics--I have a whole collection of boat quotes to the general effect that a well cared for boat takes better care of her skipper. Make sure you have sails that are at least pretty good. Make the acquaintance of Steve Seal, an honest vendor and a guy who knows his Cal 20s. He told me not to buy pricey keel bolts from him until I had verified that I needed them. He also sells the heavier-duty spreader brackets (mandatory) and a heavier backstay (my original started to fail). Here's Steve's site: http://www.sealsspars.com/ Then indulge in wild spending on "stuff." Chris Campbell This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are ShoreTel property, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited

Ummm...that would not be a "Chris" question...:) /ch

On a more serious note Don, check with sailcalc I don't see a 2-24 rather a 2-25 but that listing of boat specs is not exhaustive. I'm sure others will chime in, in time. My guess is "no" but others will know much more. /ch