tools on boat work

we bought the dremel multi-tool, mostly because there were more available blade types in stock at the store, the other tool Bosch looks pretty similar. almost picked up a multi from harbor freight but resisted after handling for a minute. Two other guys we know bought the HF tool. We used ours on a remodel job; cut square ends on installed 30 years ago 3/4" hard oak flooring to splice in new pieces after old floor heater removed, beautiful control. Then cut sheetrock to repair wall. Cut nails (iron), and then on the boat cut a section out of the fg floorpan to allow more clearance for the v-drive exchange. So, the dremel is very durable. You can even get flushcut blades, which is nice for teak plugs. The blades could be a bit thicker, didn't break but the sharpness might last longer. Wear protective eye stuff, you tend to get closer to your work with tiny tools, and watch fingers, they are also too close to the work.The fiberglass gets around too so a mask is needed there.I prefer corded tools as the power level stays consistent. On a boat I tether the cord so the tool can't hit the water if it gets away.Right now Harbor freight has a newspaper coupon that lets you buy that thing for $29 as opposed to the $59 "regular" price. Blades cost the same. As far as detail sanders go, I have a ryobi that came out before the others did, and as one piece before they made them adaptable, it is a miserably noisy tool to use, over 18 years old, still works. Gets into corners, but you have to turn yourself around to use up all the corners of the grit. If I had to use it more than an hour a month, I'd replace it. You almost wish you didn't buy the cheapest one because in the long run the better one would be easier or more efficient. HH

Just to be clear on which sanders we are talking about, this one: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=ryobi+detail+sander&hl=en&prmd=ivs&resnum=1&biw=1280&bih=937&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10649949571095984030&sa=X&ei=H0bdTPrKOob4sAPn4LXpCg&ved=0CFEQ8gIwAA# <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=ryobi+detail+sander&hl=en&prmd=ivs&resnum=1&biw=1280&bih=937&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10649949571095984030&sa=X&ei=H0bdTPrKOob4sAPn4LXpCg&ved=0CFEQ8gIwAA#>basically doesn't work. This snipit from one of the reviews on Amazon sums it up "I put on some 60 grit paper as I was trying to roughly remove some old polyurethane. Basically, the sandpaper stayed still and my hand vibrated." Another reviewer said it worked better turned off. You probably have this one: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xgl/R-100607606/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 I don't have experience with it but it gets 4 stars where the one above only gets 1 star. I assume it works although you clearly cannot turn the sandpaper to get a fresh corner as the paper is not triangular. This one: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1294VSK-Corner-Detail-Sander/dp/B0000302U5 <http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1294VSK-Corner-Detail-Sander/dp/B0000302U5>is the one I have. I highly recommend it. On the subject of multi tools. I was told that what happened was that the patent that Fein had ran out so everyone is making one now. One last thing. This group just cost me $100 as I was looking at the Harbor Freight site to see that the attachments cost and found a bunch of stuff I just had to have, like a set of left hand drills for $15. Maybe I will need one some day and be so glad I bought them :-) Allen On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net>wrote: > > > we bought the dremel multi-tool, mostly because there were more available > blade types in stock at the store, the other tool Bosch looks pretty > similar. almost picked up a multi from harbor freight but resisted after > handling for a minute. Two other guys we know bought the HF tool. We used > ours on a remodel job; cut square ends on installed 30 years ago 3/4" hard > oak flooring to splice in new pieces after old floor heater removed, > beautiful control. Then cut sheetrock to repair wall. Cut nails (iron), and > then on the boat cut a section out of the fg floorpan to allow more > clearance for the v-drive exchange. So, the dremel is very durable. You can > even get flushcut blades, which is nice for teak plugs. The blades could be > a bit thicker, didn't break but the sharpness might last longer. Wear > protective eye stuff, you tend to get closer to your work with tiny tools, > and watch fingers, they are also too close to the work.The fiberglass gets > around too so a mask is needed there.I prefer corded tools as the power > level stays consistent. On a boat I tether the cord so the tool can't hit > the water if it gets away.Right now Harbor freight has a newspaper coupon > that lets you buy that thing for $29 as opposed to the $59 "regular" price. > Blades cost the same. As far as detail sanders go, I have a ryobi that came > out before the others did, and as one piece before they made them adaptable, > it is a miserably noisy tool to use, over 18 years old, still works. Gets > into corners, but you have to turn yourself around to use up all the corners > of the grit. If I had to use it more than an hour a month, I'd replace it. > You almost wish you didn't buy the cheapest one because in the long run the > better one would be easier or more efficient. HH > > >

The Ryobi I have predates the one you show, it doesn't even accomodate the extra attachments, it was the first one of this type on the market, I needed it the day I saw it at my lumber company to get around spindles; it looks just like that one with the triangle head. If you don't hold it firmly, it will not do the job (as reviewed), but it saves my fingers in those corners where the palm sander won't go. All my other tools are Dewalts ( contractors saw,compound miter, sawzall type saw and sanders), bosch(scroll saw, pin-style router)) and makita(right angle battery drill and sanders)(of which makita seems to make the weakest palm sander, in the clamping wire for the paper). A few Skil power tools including a 10 inch table saw I've used for 9 years now that still can square up). Probably the only thing I'd add when I had money to burn would be the lithium iron battery-powered drill set of 18 volts.HH From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 6:07:27 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] tools on boat work Just to be clear on which sanders we are talking about, this one: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=ryobi+detail+sander&hl=en&prmd=ivs&resnum=1&biw=1280&bih=937&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10649949571095984030&sa=X&ei=H0bdTPrKOob4sAPn4LXpCg&ved=0CFEQ8gIwAA# basically doesn't work. This snipit from one of the reviews on Amazon sums it up "I put on some 60 grit paper as I was trying to roughly remove some old polyurethane. Basically, the sandpaper stayed still and my hand vibrated." Another reviewer said it worked better turned off. You probably have this one: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xgl/R-100607606/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 I don't have experience with it but it gets 4 stars where the one above only gets 1 star. I assume it works although you clearly cannot turn the sandpaper to get a fresh corner as the paper is not triangular. This one: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1294VSK-Corner-Detail-Sander/dp/B0000302U5 is the one I have. I highly recommend it. On the subject of multi tools. I was told that what happened was that the patent that Fein had ran out so everyone is making one now. One last thing. This group just cost me $100 as I was looking at the Harbor Freight site to see that the attachments cost and found a bunch of stuff I just had to have, like a set of left hand drills for $15. Maybe I will need one some day and be so glad I bought them :-) Allen On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: >we bought the dremel multi-tool, mostly because there were more available blade >types in stock at the store, the other tool Bosch looks pretty similar. almost >picked up a multi from harbor freight but resisted after handling for a minute. >Two other guys we know bought the HF tool. We used ours on a remodel job; cut >square ends on installed 30 years ago 3/4" hard oak flooring to splice in new >pieces after old floor heater removed, beautiful control. Then cut sheetrock to >repair wall. Cut nails (iron), and then on the boat cut a section out of the fg >floorpan to allow more clearance for the v-drive exchange. So, the dremel is >very durable. You can even get flushcut blades, which is nice for teak plugs. >The blades could be a bit thicker, didn't break but the sharpness might last >longer. Wear protective eye stuff, you tend to get closer to your work with >tiny tools, and watch fingers, they are also too close to the work.The >fiberglass gets around too so a mask is needed there.I prefer corded tools as >the power level stays consistent. On a boat I tether the cord so the tool can't >hit the water if it gets away.Right now Harbor freight has a newspaper coupon >that lets you buy that thing for $29 as opposed to the $59 "regular" price. >Blades cost the same. As far as detail sanders go, I have a ryobi that came out >before the others did, and as one piece before they made them adaptable, it is a >miserably noisy tool to use, over 18 years old, still works. Gets into corners, >but you have to turn yourself around to use up all the corners of the grit. If I >had to use it more than an hour a month, I'd replace it. You almost wish you >didn't buy the cheapest one because in the long run the better one would be >easier or more efficient. HH >