Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location)

Know the difference tween a fairy tale and a sea story? A fairy tale starts "once upon a time" and a sea story starts "this is no sh*t" ;-) Paul Chris <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > On 12/1/2010 6:33 PM, mike farrell wrote: >> >> 40 years and 100,000miles at sea, I am teachable! I hope! > >The biggest part of being teachable is staying alive. And those who >aren't teachable are less likely to stay alive. > >My theory is that we don't remember the warm sunny days with the wind >just right. We remember the cold wet days when everything went wrong >and we overcame. > >Chris Campbell >> >

Hey Paul. It's the duty fo the teller to declare "sea story coming!" War story too! What does a red neck say just before he breaks his neck? Hey, watch this! My Best, Mike From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 6:28:43 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) Know the difference tween a fairy tale and a sea story? A fairy tale starts "once upon a time" and a sea story starts "this is no sh*t" ;-) Paul Chris <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > On 12/1/2010 6:33 PM, mike farrell wrote: >> >> 40 years and 100,000miles at sea, I am teachable! I hope! > >The biggest part of being teachable is staying alive. And those who >aren't teachable are less likely to stay alive. > >My theory is that we don't remember the warm sunny days with the wind >just right. We remember the cold wet days when everything went wrong >and we overcame. > >Chris Campbell >> > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

LOL!! As a transplanted West Texan I can vouch for that! Now I'm on the eastern shore of MD where we are referred to as "shorebillies" . . . redder necks are hard to find ;-) mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: >Hey Paul. > It's the duty fo the teller to declare "sea story coming!" War story >too! What does a red neck say just before he breaks his neck? Hey, watch this! > My Best, Mike > > > >________________________________ >From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 6:28:43 AM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) > >Know the difference tween a fairy tale and a sea story? A fairy tale starts >"once upon a time" and a sea story starts "this is no sh*t" ;-) > > >Paul > >Chris <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > >> On 12/1/2010 6:33 PM, mike farrell wrote: >>> >>> 40 years and 100,000miles at sea, I am teachable! I hope! >> >>The biggest part of being teachable is staying alive. And those who >>aren't teachable are less likely to stay alive. >> >>My theory is that we don't remember the warm sunny days with the wind >>just right. We remember the cold wet days when everything went wrong >>and we overcame. >> >>Chris Campbell >>> >> > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

No but I heard something about chicken neckers or something like that.....:) Never did find out where that term came from.. /ch On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > > > LOL!! As a transplanted West Texan I can vouch for that! Now I'm on the > eastern shore of MD where we are referred to as "shorebillies" . . . redder > necks are hard to find ;-) > > > mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com <vectormenow%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > >Hey Paul. > > It's the duty fo the teller to declare "sea story coming!" War > story > >too! What does a red neck say just before he breaks his neck? Hey, watch > this! > > My Best, Mike > > > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com <pwestla%40aol.com>> > >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 6:28:43 AM > >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole > location) > > > >Know the difference tween a fairy tale and a sea story? A fairy tale > starts > >"once upon a time" and a sea story starts "this is no sh*t" ;-) > > > > > >Paul > > > >Chris <cc… [at] lsnm.org <ccampbell%40lsnm.org>> wrote: > > > >> On 12/1/2010 6:33 PM, mike farrell wrote: > >>> > >>> 40 years and 100,000miles at sea, I am teachable! I hope! > >> > >>The biggest part of being teachable is staying alive. And those who > >>aren't teachable are less likely to stay alive. > >> > >>My theory is that we don't remember the warm sunny days with the wind > >>just right. We remember the cold wet days when everything went wrong > >>and we overcame. > >> > >>Chris Campbell > >>> > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- /ch

Chris, chicken neckers are people who crab using a chicken neck tied to a string. Drop your chicken neck into the water, wait for the crab to grab hold, pull'em up slowly and get your net under them before they figure out what's going on. If you bought the whole Eastport Oyster Boys CD there is a song about it . . . I think its called "Back Creek Crab" Paul

Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age. On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > > > Chris, chicken neckers are people who crab using a chicken neck tied to a > string. Drop your chicken neck into the water, wait for the crab to grab > hold, pull'em up slowly and get your net under them before they figure out > what's going on. > > If you bought the whole Eastport Oyster Boys CD there is a song about it . > . . I think its called "Back Creek Crab" > > Paul > > >

In a message dated 12/2/2010 2:38:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, th… [at] gmail.com writes: <Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age.> Wow - believe it or not you're the first person I've heard call them "craw dads" since I left Texas! I even met some friends who were from north of N'orleans who called them craw fish and I would've thought that's where that name originated. Where did you grow up? Paul

Paul, I thought chicken necking was normal ops. Doesn't everybody do it? Well, maybe not in Omaha. Only notable in that the neck is absolutely the cheapest part of the chicken (since wings became so popular). Also have a crab net on the boat for grabbing Timmo's hats out of the water. Very handy boating tool. The netting can either be standard string netting or chicken wire. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:22 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) Chris, chicken neckers are people who crab using a chicken neck tied to a string. Drop your chicken neck into the water, wait for the crab to grab hold, pull'em up slowly and get your net under them before they figure out what's going on. If you bought the whole Eastport Oyster Boys CD there is a song about it . . . I think its called "Back Creek Crab" Paul

Now THAT brings back memories! From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Thorp Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age. On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: Chris, chicken neckers are people who crab using a chicken neck tied to a string. Drop your chicken neck into the water, wait for the crab to grab hold, pull'em up slowly and get your net under them before they figure out what's going on. If you bought the whole Eastport Oyster Boys CD there is a song about it . . . I think its called "Back Creek Crab" Paul

Grew up on the west coast, around San Fran. Didn't realize crawfish is a more common name! On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com > wrote: > > > Paul, I thought chicken necking was normal ops. Doesn't everybody do it? > > > Well, maybe not in Omaha. > > Only notable in that the neck is absolutely the cheapest part of the > chicken (since wings became so popular). > > Also have a crab net on the boat for grabbing Timmo's hats out of the > water. Very handy boating tool. The netting can either be standard string > netting or chicken wire. > > Cheers > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *pw… [at] aol.com > *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:22 PM > > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole > location) > > Chris, chicken neckers are people who crab using a chicken neck tied to a > string. Drop your chicken neck into the water, wait for the crab to grab > hold, pull'em up slowly and get your net under them before they figure out > what's going on. > > If you bought the whole Eastport Oyster Boys CD there is a song about it . > . . I think its called "Back Creek Crab" > > Paul > > >

ok, 3rd gen Californian fished for crawdads in La Honda in San Mateo county since I was 6 years old, string tied to a pole with marshmallows, cheese, whatever, and a little net, then we took them back and cooked them in boiling water over a little fire in over a rockpit circle in a coffee can back at the cabin. (60 years ago) always soaking wet, made little boats (rafts to get the "bigger" ones on the other side) that always tipped over. Always in or on the water somewhere, I guess. HH From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 11:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) In a message dated 12/2/2010 2:38:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, th… [at] gmail.com writes: <Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age.> Wow - believe it or not you're the first person I've heard call them "craw dads" since I left Texas! I even met some friends who were from north of N'orleans who called them craw fish and I would've thought that's where that name originated. Where did you grow up? Paul

When I was a kid catching them in a creek and when raising them to sell to the University of Delaware Biology Department we called them Cray Fish and would never have dreamed of eating one! Moved to Texas, started calling them Craw Dads and learned to eat them and how to cook them the way Cajuns do with cayenne pepper, crab boil, salt, corn on the cob, and potatoes -- dump the boiler on the middle of a picnic table and have FUN! When we went to Louisiana to buy them we asked around for "Who has Mud Bugs today?" Our guide was a Flying Scot sailor who was born in Cajun country. They asked his mother what his name should be at the hospital and she said, "Willie." You mean William, right? No, Willie! Well what's his middle name? Does he need one? Ok, just put G. Thus was named Willie G Berry our sailing mentor and Craw Dad chef extraordinaire. (Also 4 time Texas District FS Champion) My brother in Virginia Beach calls em Mud Crawlers! Better food than lobster! We would sail a regatta in Louisiana while the kids used chicken parts to catch Craw Dads and cook them up for dinner that night. Could eat them for hours.... Sometimes they would have frogs' legs that they gigged the night before as an added treat. Served with Boudain and saltine crackers and Louisiana Hot Sauce. Man I'm getting hungry! Sailing has brought me some wonderful experiences over the last 30 years! Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 11:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) In a message dated 12/2/2010 2:38:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, th… [at] gmail.com writes: <Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age.> Wow - believe it or not you're the first person I've heard call them "craw dads" since I left Texas! I even met some friends who were from north of N'orleans who called them craw fish and I would've thought that's where that name originated. Where did you grow up? Paul

In a message dated 12/2/2010 4:35:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, dn… [at] sbcglobal.net writes: Served with Boudain and saltine crackers and Louisiana Hot Sauce. Man I'm getting hungry! If I recall, isn't the "correct" way to eat one to bite the head off and suck out the insides or did I have a weird dream? These cajun friends I met when I lived in PA invited me over for some homemade jambalaya that her mother had made and when I heard what all went into it I was skeptical and started filling up on guacamole and chips . . . then when I tasted it . . . oh man was I sorry!! I could've eaten myself into a coma it was so good!! Paul

On 12/2/2010 4:35 PM, Donald Dutton wrote: > When I was a kid catching them in a creek and when raising them to > sell to the University of Delaware Biology Department we called them > Cray Fish and would never have dreamed of eating one! > > Moved to Texas, started calling them Craw Dads Here in Michigan, I've heard crayfish, crawfish, crawdads. But then I consulted our friends at Google who sent me to Wikipedia, which said: > > The name "crayfish" comes from the Old French > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_French_language> word /escrevisse/ > (Modern French <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language> > /écrevisse/) from Old Frankish > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Frankish_language> */krebitja/ (cf. > crab <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab>), from the same root as > /crawl/. The word has been modified to "crayfish" by association with > "fish" (folk etymology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_etymology>). > The largely American <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_English> > variant "crawfish" is similarly derived. > > Some kinds of crayfish are known locally as lobsters > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster>, *crawdads*,^[4] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfish#cite_note-Bayou-3> > *mudbugs*,^[4] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfish#cite_note-Bayou-3> and yabbies > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherax>. In the Eastern United States > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_United_States>, "crayfish" is > more common in the north, while "crawdad" is heard more in central and > western regions, and "crawfish" further south, although there are > considerable overlaps.^[5] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfish#cite_note-4> An even further > round of folk etymological change is an American buffet-style > restaurant menu listing crawfish as "clawfish". > On the schoolship, we use the common name crayfish. Depending on the age of the kids, we'll discuss the fact that they aren't really fish (duh). Chris Campbell

I went to New Orleans several times to race some CAL 25 events on Lake Pontchartrain (you are never more than 12 feet from land). I always went looking for some real jambalaya. The craw dads were not really to my taste although fun eating for a little while till the hot sauce got to me. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) In a message dated 12/2/2010 4:35:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, dn… [at] sbcglobal.net writes: Served with Boudain and saltine crackers and Louisiana Hot Sauce. Man I'm getting hungry! If I recall, isn't the "correct" way to eat one to bite the head off and suck out the insides or did I have a weird dream? These cajun friends I met when I lived in PA invited me over for some homemade jambalaya that her mother had made and when I heard what all went into it I was skeptical and started filling up on guacamole and chips . . . then when I tasted it . . . oh man was I sorry!! I could've eaten myself into a coma it was so good!! Paul

weird dream..:)hh From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 1:43:23 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) In a message dated 12/2/2010 4:35:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, dn… [at] sbcglobal.net writes: Served with Boudain and saltine crackers and Louisiana Hot Sauce. Man I'm getting hungry! If I recall, isn't the "correct" way to eat one to bite the head off and suck out the insides or did I have a weird dream? These cajun friends I met when I lived in PA invited me over for some homemade jambalaya that her mother had made and when I heard what all went into it I was skeptical and started filling up on guacamole and chips . . . then when I tasted it . . . oh man was I sorry!! I could've eaten myself into a coma it was so good!! Paul

Charlie, I use chicken wire to keep the deer from eating my rose bushes. The bushes are next to my garden shed which was used as a CHICKEN coop during WWII. Not me, previous owners, but the story was from the family we bought from. Regards, Dave D. --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 1:56 PM Paul, I thought chicken necking was normal ops. Doesn't everybody do it? Well, maybe not in Omaha. Only notable in that the neck is absolutely the cheapest part of the chicken (since wings became so popular). Also have a crab net on the boat for grabbing Timmo's hats out of the water. Very handy boating tool. The netting can either be standard string netting or chicken wire. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:22 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) Chris, chicken neckers are people who crab using a chicken neck tied to a string. Drop your chicken neck into the water, wait for the crab to grab hold, pull'em up slowly and get your net under them before they figure out what's going on. If you bought the whole Eastport Oyster Boys CD there is a song about it . . . I think its called "Back Creek Crab" Paul

Ok Helen, 4th generation Californian mom's side 1849 3rd dad's side 1851. Called them "Crawdads" from 1952 on when we caught them in Phoenix Lake and streams in Marin Co CA. It was a crik not a creeek. Later years in the San Lorenzo River at Boulder Creek and Ben Lomand. My Best, Mike From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 12:24:33 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) ok, 3rd gen Californian fished for crawdads in La Honda in San Mateo county since I was 6 years old, string tied to a pole with marshmallows, cheese, whatever, and a little net, then we took them back and cooked them in boiling water over a little fire in over a rockpit circle in a coffee can back at the cabin. (60 years ago) always soaking wet, made little boats (rafts to get the "bigger" ones on the other side) that always tipped over. Always in or on the water somewhere, I guess. HH From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 11:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) In a message dated 12/2/2010 2:38:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, th… [at] gmail.com writes: <Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age.> Wow - believe it or not you're the first person I've heard call them "craw dads" since I left Texas! I even met some friends who were from north of N'orleans who called them craw fish and I would've thought that's where that name originated. Where did you grow up? Paul

I sure hope you Yanks have a sense of humor...as us northern boys/girls just go to a river mouth outlet, wade in the shallow and pick those crawdads with our hands. No fuss at all. Sheesh...:) Well thats how it used to be. Not much left now. Rarely do you see them anymore in any of the tribs that feed the CDN side of Ontario and Erie. Salmon has returned in places unexpected however like the Don River which runs right through the middle of Toronto and drains into the dirties part of the Harbor. All very interesting. Somehow I got the impression that "chicken neckers" was a slang term for "those darn tourists are back". Makes sense in one way, as real crabbers work pretty darn hard from what I saw and of what little is left in the Chesapeake. /ch

In a message dated 12/2/2010 10:37:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, ch… [at] gmail.com writes: Somehow I got the impression that "chicken neckers" was a slang term for "those darn tourists are back". That could be Chris as the tourists love to crab and its more polite than calling them mf'ers ;-). We always referred to them as "tourons" or if they were on the water in their pontoon boats and jet skis they were "the Pennsylvania Navy". One summer in Ocean City, MD every pedestrian killed that year was from PA. Ocean City swells from about 10,000 people in the winter to 375,000 on the July 4th weekend and has one major 8 lane highway down the center of town, so the potential for pedestrian deaths is pretty high. Paul

We used to anchor on a finger tributary of the Miles River that was just north and east of St. Michaels and on the other side of the river. A crabber would come in at night and set his pots in a long line marked with flags and everyone would be sure to give the line a good distance when you anchored. About 6am along would come his boat with a wheel hanging back of the pilot house that would lift the line. One guy un-hooked the trap while another attached a freshly baited empty trap and dropped it back as the line passed. Really hard work and timed like a fine dance. Couple of times I rowed out in my dinghy and offered them fresh brewed coffee which was never refused. Never asked for crabs in return and never was offered -- just thought it was a good thing to do for someone who had to work while we relaxed and enjoyed the beauty of that creek. There was a house on the point that belonged to Pam Shriver -- it had a 5 car garage with a caretakers quarters over the garage. The house was in two major parts with a glass center that contained an indoor tennis court. The grounds were beautiful and covered with widely spaced nesting poles built for the ospreys to nest on! Really nice place. Wish I had taken more pictures. Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 7:36:55 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) I sure hope you Yanks have a sense of humor...as us northern boys/girls just go to a river mouth outlet, wade in the shallow and pick those crawdads with our hands. No fuss at all. Sheesh...:) Well thats how it used to be. Not much left now. Rarely do you see them anymore in any of the tribs that feed the CDN side of Ontario and Erie. Salmon has returned in places unexpected however like the Don River which runs right through the middle of Toronto and drains into the dirties part of the Harbor. All very interesting. Somehow I got the impression that "chicken neckers" was a slang term for "those darn tourists are back". Makes sense in one way, as real crabbers work pretty darn hard from what I saw and of what little is left in the Chesapeake. /ch

historic! my grandfather was born in the 1880's in redwood city, where my father was also born.my home's in santa cruz now, (40 years) never saw crawdads in boulder creek or ben lomond, but you might want to know they are redoing the ben lomond park thing, that they closed years ago, though I'm not sure how much they intend to do, probably will never again be a swimming hole. did you swim there or in boulder creek's swimming hole? Helen From: mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:59:04 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) Ok Helen, 4th generation Californian mom's side 1849 3rd dad's side 1851. Called them "Crawdads" from 1952 on when we caught them in Phoenix Lake and streams in Marin Co CA. It was a crik not a creeek. Later years in the San Lorenzo River at Boulder Creek and Ben Lomand. My Best, Mike From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 12:24:33 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) ok, 3rd gen Californian fished for crawdads in La Honda in San Mateo county since I was 6 years old, string tied to a pole with marshmallows, cheese, whatever, and a little net, then we took them back and cooked them in boiling water over a little fire in over a rockpit circle in a coffee can back at the cabin. (60 years ago) always soaking wet, made little boats (rafts to get the "bigger" ones on the other side) that always tipped over. Always in or on the water somewhere, I guess. HH From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 11:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) In a message dated 12/2/2010 2:38:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, th… [at] gmail.com writes: <Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age.> Wow - believe it or not you're the first person I've heard call them "craw dads" since I left Texas! I even met some friends who were from north of N'orleans who called them craw fish and I would've thought that's where that name originated. Where did you grow up? Paul

Hi Helen,I swam there as a 10 year old boy 55 years ago with my Mom and Dad. A friend of Dad's had a cabin just southwest of Ben Lomond and we would spend a week or two there. My Grandfather William Joseph Farrell met my Grandmother Delia Alice Lynskey in the Live Oak Area of Santa Cruz (17th Street) She was an Irish Immigrant from Co. Mayo who joined her uncle Walter Lynskey there. I saw crawdads there in the shallows down river from the dam when I took my kids and Grandkids there to swim. I was saddened when I saw the "Developments". If Salmon can once more breed in the San Lorenzo River it will be OK with me. I also swam in Boulder Creek but Ben Lomond is imprinted on me! My Best, Mike From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 11:35:05 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) historic! my grandfather was born in the 1880's in redwood city, where my father was also born.my home's in santa cruz now, (40 years) never saw crawdads in boulder creek or ben lomond, but you might want to know they are redoing the ben lomond park thing, that they closed years ago, though I'm not sure how much they intend to do, probably will never again be a swimming hole. did you swim there or in boulder creek's swimming hole? Helen From: mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:59:04 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) Ok Helen, 4th generation Californian mom's side 1849 3rd dad's side 1851. Called them "Crawdads" from 1952 on when we caught them in Phoenix Lake and streams in Marin Co CA. It was a crik not a creeek. Later years in the San Lorenzo River at Boulder Creek and Ben Lomand. My Best, Mike From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 12:24:33 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) ok, 3rd gen Californian fished for crawdads in La Honda in San Mateo county since I was 6 years old, string tied to a pole with marshmallows, cheese, whatever, and a little net, then we took them back and cooked them in boiling water over a little fire in over a rockpit circle in a coffee can back at the cabin. (60 years ago) always soaking wet, made little boats (rafts to get the "bigger" ones on the other side) that always tipped over. Always in or on the water somewhere, I guess. HH From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 11:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] sea stories (was Bilge pump through hole location) In a message dated 12/2/2010 2:38:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, th… [at] gmail.com writes: <Hah! We used to catch craw dads that way... only it was sandwich meat stuffed inside a nut on fishing line... and we were 10 or 12 years of age.> Wow - believe it or not you're the first person I've heard call them "craw dads" since I left Texas! I even met some friends who were from north of N'orleans who called them craw fish and I would've thought that's where that name originated. Where did you grow up? Paul