Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33-2 Gulf Stream ask David Dobbs

David has posted his story about his experience in the Gulf of Mexico a couple of times and is a great sea story that will inspire confidence in the 33-2. Maybe he'll post it again or email it direct to you. Charlie - is Darr's a 33 or a 33-2? I was thinking it was an older 33 but I could be wrong. Paul '80 Cal 39 johntturpin <jo… [at] teamturpin.org> wrote: >Granted. I wasn't meaning to downplay that trip and I understand the risks. The point I was making is that I'm not looking for an offshore boat that's a good circumnavigator. There's a number of good boats for that purpose, but that would be poor choices for shallow water island hopping. In my scenario, I'm looking for the latter, but a boat that would not be a complete mismatch for a small number of limited offshore sprints. > >Your point is well made and appreciated. So, again for the group, how well would a 33-2 match that type of mission? > >Thanks! > >John >Edmond, OK > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Joe DeMers <jedsail@...> wrote: >> >> Hi John - >> It certainly IS an offshore passage from Miami to the Bahamas! Don't >> delude yourself into thinking it is an easy trip. You will be well >> offshore, much farther than you can swim, with no place to hide if the >> weather deteriorates. Throw in the Gulf Stream crossing, and the >> potential for disaster increases. Your crew and vessel must be prepared >> for any eventuality, including dismasting, taking on LOTS of water, man >> overboard, fires, heavy weather, medical emergencies, etc. >> >> Remember, the ocean is to be respected, and a responsible skipper will >> ensure that the boat and crew are well prepared. _Complacency can kill >> you. _ >> >> Joe D >> >> >> >> >> On 1/13/2011 8:44 AM, stratinsights wrote: >> > This is my first post here, but I've been lurking for a while. >> > >> > In about two years, I plan to buy a boat for some retirement adventures. One of the boats on my "short list" is the Cal 33. I know that there are some 33 owners here and I've got a quick question for you. >> > >> > How do you think a 33-2 would do for a Stream crossing to the Bahamas and for poking around the Bahamas and Keys? Assume the short keel version. And, of course, assume the crew is picking its weather windows and generally being a chicken when chosing routes/destinations. >> > >> > I hesitate to call this off-shore sailing, but certainly the dash over to Bimini or maybe down to Puerto Rico would feel like that. How do you think a well-maintained, but generally unmodified, '87/'88 33-2 would perform in this island hopping scenario? >> > >> > I've Googled like crazy, but there's just not a lot of discussion of the 33 out there. But, it looks to be a good fit for my family's wants/needs. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > John >> > Edmond, OK >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3376 - Release Date: 01/12/11 14:34:00 >> > >> >> -- >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >> >

It is a 1986 Cal 33-2. New rigging this year, Raymarine instruments, color chartplotter, radar, gps, autopilot, New roller furling this year, great sails, not new, but in great condition, lightly used in Chesapeake bay and florida bays, New fuel tank this year. Very sturdy, great boat. Has wavestopper dodger, fully enclosed cockpit canvas and windows, refrig/freezer, dual pole Balmar alternator, Link energy monitor, gel batteries. Replaced all plastic through hulls with graco bronze and all stopcocks are bronze, electric toilet. Hot and cold pressure water. It has also been across the Gulf of Mexico and did great in winds that topped 48 knots. Sat hove to for 12 hours, boat did fine. I puked for 8 hours. New water pressure pump 2 years ago. 2000 gal per hour bilge pump, new waterwtich bilge switch this year. Stainless steel electric anchor winch. Mast rewired this year with all new lights. Darr _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:29 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33-2 Gulf Stream ask David Dobbs David has posted his story about his experience in the Gulf of Mexico a couple of times and is a great sea story that will inspire confidence in the 33-2. Maybe he'll post it again or email it direct to you. Charlie - is Darr's a 33 or a 33-2? I was thinking it was an older 33 but I could be wrong. Paul '80 Cal 39 johntturpin <jo… [at] teamturpin.org <mailto:john%40teamturpin.org> > wrote: >Granted. I wasn't meaning to downplay that trip and I understand the risks. The point I was making is that I'm not looking for an offshore boat that's a good circumnavigator. There's a number of good boats for that purpose, but that would be poor choices for shallow water island hopping. In my scenario, I'm looking for the latter, but a boat that would not be a complete mismatch for a small number of limited offshore sprints. > >Your point is well made and appreciated. So, again for the group, how well would a 33-2 match that type of mission? > >Thanks! > >John >Edmond, OK > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , Joe DeMers <jedsail@...> wrote: >> >> Hi John - >> It certainly IS an offshore passage from Miami to the Bahamas! Don't >> delude yourself into thinking it is an easy trip. You will be well >> offshore, much farther than you can swim, with no place to hide if the >> weather deteriorates. Throw in the Gulf Stream crossing, and the >> potential for disaster increases. Your crew and vessel must be prepared >> for any eventuality, including dismasting, taking on LOTS of water, man >> overboard, fires, heavy weather, medical emergencies, etc. >> >> Remember, the ocean is to be respected, and a responsible skipper will >> ensure that the boat and crew are well prepared. _Complacency can kill >> you. _ >> >> Joe D >> >> >> >> >> On 1/13/2011 8:44 AM, stratinsights wrote: >> > This is my first post here, but I've been lurking for a while. >> > >> > In about two years, I plan to buy a boat for some retirement adventures. One of the boats on my "short list" is the Cal 33. I know that there are some 33 owners here and I've got a quick question for you. >> > >> > How do you think a 33-2 would do for a Stream crossing to the Bahamas and for poking around the Bahamas and Keys? Assume the short keel version. And, of course, assume the crew is picking its weather windows and generally being a chicken when chosing routes/destinations. >> > >> > I hesitate to call this off-shore sailing, but certainly the dash over to Bimini or maybe down to Puerto Rico would feel like that. How do you think a well-maintained, but generally unmodified, '87/'88 33-2 would perform in this island hopping scenario? >> > >> > I've Googled like crazy, but there's just not a lot of discussion of the 33 out there. But, it looks to be a good fit for my family's wants/needs. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > John >> > Edmond, OK >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3376 - Release Date: 01/12/11 14:34:00 >> > >> >> -- >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >> >

Thanks, Darr. Wow, some story. It's good to hear that your boat was up to that challenge. Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. It's been very helpful. I may have more questions from time to time. John --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Darr LaFon" <darrlafon1@...> wrote: > > It is a 1986 Cal 33-2. New rigging this year, Raymarine instruments, color > chartplotter, radar, gps, autopilot, New roller furling this year, great > sails, not new, but in great condition, lightly used in Chesapeake bay and > florida bays, New fuel tank this year. Very sturdy, great boat. Has > wavestopper dodger, fully enclosed cockpit canvas and windows, > refrig/freezer, dual pole Balmar alternator, Link energy monitor, gel > batteries. Replaced all plastic through hulls with graco bronze and all > stopcocks are bronze, electric toilet. Hot and cold pressure water. It has > also been across the Gulf of Mexico and did great in winds that topped 48 > knots. Sat hove to for 12 hours, boat did fine. I puked for 8 hours. New > water pressure pump 2 years ago. 2000 gal per hour bilge pump, new > waterwtich bilge switch this year. Stainless steel electric anchor winch. > > Mast rewired this year with all new lights. > > > > Darr > > > > _____ > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Paul > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:29 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33-2 Gulf Stream ask David Dobbs > > > > > > David has posted his story about his experience in the Gulf of Mexico a > couple of times and is a great sea story that will inspire confidence in the > 33-2. Maybe he'll post it again or email it direct to you. > Charlie - is Darr's a 33 or a 33-2? I was thinking it was an older 33 but I > could be wrong. > Paul > '80 Cal 39 > > johntturpin <john@... <mailto:john%40teamturpin.org> > wrote: > > >Granted. I wasn't meaning to downplay that trip and I understand the risks. > The point I was making is that I'm not looking for an offshore boat that's a > good circumnavigator. There's a number of good boats for that purpose, but > that would be poor choices for shallow water island hopping. In my scenario, > I'm looking for the latter, but a boat that would not be a complete mismatch > for a small number of limited offshore sprints. > > > >Your point is well made and appreciated. So, again for the group, how well > would a 33-2 match that type of mission? > > > >Thanks! > > > >John > >Edmond, OK > > > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , Joe > DeMers <jedsail@> wrote: > >> > >> Hi John - > >> It certainly IS an offshore passage from Miami to the Bahamas! Don't > >> delude yourself into thinking it is an easy trip. You will be well > >> offshore, much farther than you can swim, with no place to hide if the > >> weather deteriorates. Throw in the Gulf Stream crossing, and the > >> potential for disaster increases. Your crew and vessel must be prepared > >> for any eventuality, including dismasting, taking on LOTS of water, man > >> overboard, fires, heavy weather, medical emergencies, etc. > >> > >> Remember, the ocean is to be respected, and a responsible skipper will > >> ensure that the boat and crew are well prepared. _Complacency can kill > >> you. _ > >> > >> Joe D > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/13/2011 8:44 AM, stratinsights wrote: > >> > This is my first post here, but I've been lurking for a while. > >> > > >> > In about two years, I plan to buy a boat for some retirement > adventures. One of the boats on my "short list" is the Cal 33. I know that > there are some 33 owners here and I've got a quick question for you. > >> > > >> > How do you think a 33-2 would do for a Stream crossing to the Bahamas > and for poking around the Bahamas and Keys? Assume the short keel version. > And, of course, assume the crew is picking its weather windows and generally > being a chicken when chosing routes/destinations. > >> > > >> > I hesitate to call this off-shore sailing, but certainly the dash over > to Bimini or maybe down to Puerto Rico would feel like that. How do you > think a well-maintained, but generally unmodified, '87/'88 33-2 would > perform in this island hopping scenario? > >> > > >> > I've Googled like crazy, but there's just not a lot of discussion of > the 33 out there. But, it looks to be a good fit for my family's > wants/needs. > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > John > >> > Edmond, OK > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3376 - Release Date: > 01/12/11 14:34:00 > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> > >> *Joe DeMers - owner* > >> > >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC > >> > >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> > >> > >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > >> > > >

Most boats are tougher than the sailors that sail them! Properly handled they will take care of those in them. However, as you must understand a series of bad judgements or mistakes can kill. There is no substitute for experience so sail with a good skipper who will build your knowledge and confidence, who is willing to teach and mentor you. Learn from that person before you go solo. My Best, Mike Farrell Cal20 Coyote #61 Santa Cruz 27 Yellow Jack #58 us 57313 From: Darr LaFon <da… [at] verizon.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 7:54:49 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33-2 Gulf Stream ask David Dobbs It is a 1986 Cal 33-2. New rigging this year, Raymarine instruments, color chartplotter, radar, gps, autopilot, New roller furling this year, great sails, not new, but in great condition, lightly used in Chesapeake bay and florida bays, New fuel tank this year. Very sturdy, great boat. Has wavestopper dodger, fully enclosed cockpit canvas and windows, refrig/freezer, dual pole Balmar alternator, Link energy monitor, gel batteries. Replaced all plastic through hulls with graco bronze and all stopcocks are bronze, electric toilet. Hot and cold pressure water. It has also been across the Gulf of Mexico and did great in winds that topped 48 knots. Sat hove to for 12 hours, boat did fine. I puked for 8 hours. New water pressure pump 2 years ago. 2000 gal per hour bilge pump, new waterwtich bilge switch this year. Stainless steel electric anchor winch. Mast rewired this year with all new lights. Darr From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:29 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33-2 Gulf Stream ask David Dobbs David has posted his story about his experience in the Gulf of Mexico a couple of times and is a great sea story that will inspire confidence in the 33-2. Maybe he ' ll post it again or email it direct to you. Charlie - is Darr ' s a 33 or a 33-2? I was thinking it was an older 33 but I could be wrong. Paul ' 80 Cal 39 johntturpin <jo… [at] teamturpin.org> wrote: >Granted. I wasn ' t meaning to downplay that trip and I understand the risks. >The point I was making is that I ' m not looking for an offshore boat that ' s a >good circumnavigator. There ' s a number of good boats for that purpose, but >that would be poor choices for shallow water island hopping. In my scenario, I ' >m looking for the latter, but a boat that would not be a complete mismatch for a >small number of limited offshore sprints. > >Your point is well made and appreciated. So, again for the group, how well would >a 33-2 match that type of mission? > > >Thanks! > >John > Edmond , OK > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Joe DeMers <jedsail@...> wrote: >> >> Hi John - >> It certainly IS an offshore passage from Miami to the Bahamas ! Don ' t >> delude yourself into thinking it is an easy trip. You will be well >> offshore, much farther than you can swim, with no place to hide if the >> weather deteriorates. Throw in the Gulf Stream crossing, and the >> potential for disaster increases. Your crew and vessel must be prepared >> for any eventuality, including dismasting, taking on LOTS of water, man >> overboard, fires, heavy weather, medical emergencies, etc. >> >> Remember, the ocean is to be respected, and a responsible skipper will >> ensure that the boat and crew are well prepared. _Complacency can kill >> you. _ >> >> Joe D >> >> >> >> >> On 1/13/2011 8:44 AM, stratinsights wrote: >> > This is my first post here, but I ' ve been lurking for a while. >> > >> > In about two years, I plan to buy a boat for some retirement adventures. One >>of the boats on my "short list" is the Cal 33. I know that there are some 33 >>owners here and I ' ve got a quick question for you. >> > >> > How do you think a 33-2 would do for a Stream crossing to the Bahamas and for >>poking around the Bahamas and Keys? Assume the short keel version. And, of >>course, assume the crew is picking its weather windows and generally being a >>chicken when chosing routes/destinations. >> > >> > I hesitate to call this off-shore sailing, but certainly the dash over to >>Bimini or maybe down to Puerto Rico would feel like that. How do you think a >>well-maintained, but generally unmodified, ' 87/ ' 88 33-2 would perform in this >>island hopping scenario? >> > >> > I ' ve Googled like crazy, but there ' s just not a lot of discussion of the >>33 out there. But, it looks to be a good fit for my family ' s wants/needs. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > John >> > Edmond , OK >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3376 - Release Date: 01/12/11 >>14:34:00 >> > >> >> -- >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >> >

Paul, Right initials, wrong name. I think you mean Don Dutton. Regards, Dave D. --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: From: Paul <pw… [at] aol.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33-2 Gulf Stream ask David Dobbs To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 9:29 AM David has posted his story about his experience in the Gulf of Mexico a couple of times and is a great sea story that will inspire confidence in the 33-2. Maybe he'll post it again or email it direct to you. Charlie - is Darr's a 33 or a 33-2? I was thinking it was an older 33 but I could be wrong. Paul '80 Cal 39 johntturpin <jo… [at] teamturpin.org> wrote: >Granted. I wasn't meaning to downplay that trip and I understand the risks. The point I was making is that I'm not looking for an offshore boat that's a good circumnavigator. There's a number of good boats for that purpose, but that would be poor choices for shallow water island hopping. In my scenario, I'm looking for the latter, but a boat that would not be a complete mismatch for a small number of limited offshore sprints. > >Your point is well made and appreciated. So, again for the group, how well would a 33-2 match that type of mission? > >Thanks! > >John >Edmond, OK > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Joe DeMers <jedsail@...> wrote: >> >> Hi John - >> It certainly IS an offshore passage from Miami to the Bahamas! Don't >> delude yourself into thinking it is an easy trip. You will be well >> offshore, much farther than you can swim, with no place to hide if the >> weather deteriorates. Throw in the Gulf Stream crossing, and the >> potential for disaster increases. Your crew and vessel must be prepared >> for any eventuality, including dismasting, taking on LOTS of water, man >> overboard, fires, heavy weather, medical emergencies, etc. >> >> Remember, the ocean is to be respected, and a responsible skipper will >> ensure that the boat and crew are well prepared. _Complacency can kill >> you. _ >> >> Joe D >> >> >> >> >> On 1/13/2011 8:44 AM, stratinsights wrote: >> > This is my first post here, but I've been lurking for a while. >> > >> > In about two years, I plan to buy a boat for some retirement adventures. One of the boats on my "short list" is the Cal 33. I know that there are some 33 owners here and I've got a quick question for you. >> > >> > How do you think a 33-2 would do for a Stream crossing to the Bahamas and for poking around the Bahamas and Keys? Assume the short keel version. And, of course, assume the crew is picking its weather windows and generally being a chicken when chosing routes/destinations. >> > >> > I hesitate to call this off-shore sailing, but certainly the dash over to Bimini or maybe down to Puerto Rico would feel like that. How do you think a well-maintained, but generally unmodified, '87/'88 33-2 would perform in this island hopping scenario? >> > >> > I've Googled like crazy, but there's just not a lot of discussion of the 33 out there. But, it looks to be a good fit for my family's wants/needs. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > John >> > Edmond, OK >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3376 - Release Date: 01/12/11 14:34:00 >> > >> >> -- >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >> >