2 messages2011-01-27 21:04 UTCthrough 2011-01-27 21:17 UTC
FW: Boating Losses from BOS on Feb. 1
Gerald Sobel2011-01-27 21:04 UTC
--- On Thu, 1/27/11, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] msn.com> wrote:
From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] msn.com>
Subject: FW: Boating Losses from BOS on Feb. 1
To: "Gerald Sobel" <so… [at] yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 12:29 PM
From: jn… [at] gmail.com
To: la… [at] gmail.com
Subject: Boating Losses from BOS on Feb. 1
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:30:58 -0800
Marina del Rey Boating
News
Date 1/27/11
In This Edition
1) BOS Set To Approve LCPA
on Feb. 1st
2) LCPA Before the Periodic Review Completion?
LA
County BOS Meeting
February 1, 2011
Hall of Administration
9:30 AM
Map Here
Charter Bus Leaving
Marina City Club at 8AM
Email to reserve a spot:
in… [at] wearemdr.com
Write emails to:
Supervisor Knabe
do… [at] bos.co.la.ca.us
Supervisor Yaroslavsky
ze… [at] bos.lacounty.gov
Supervisor Molina
mo… [at] bos.lacounty.gov
Supervisor Ridley-Thomas
ma… [at] bos.lacounty.gov
Supervisor Antonovich
fi… [at] lacbos.org
Be sure to CC:
Assemblywoman Betsy Butler
As… [at] assembly.ca.gov
Sample Letter
Honorable Supervisors,
I am writing today to voice my serious concerns with the
proposed Major Local Coastal Plan Amendment (LCPA) that will be heard by the
Board on February 1, 2011. While I understand the need to redevelop the
Marina, the move towards larger boats will severely diminish affordable,
entry-level boating and will drastically impact our boating population in Los
Angeles.
I would like you to withdraw the amendment to continue to reduce the slips
and adhere to the California Coastal Commission recommendation of no further
loss of slips in Marina del Rey. The marine manufacturers are now going back
to building smaller boats, and by providing more opportunities and greater
access to recreational boating, our citizens and boating communities would be
better served.
Sincerely,
Important Sites
LAMariner.com
WeAreMDR.com
Coastal
Commission
Cal Boating
The Log
Contact Us
la… [at] gmail.com
(424)229-1657
5 Days Until Board of Supervisors Approve Massive Reductions
in Recreational Boating
Recreational Boating in
Los Angeles will significantly change on February 1st at the Hall
of Administration in Downtown LA where the Board of Supervisors will amend
the MdR Local Coastal Plan (our guiding laws on the coast) to significantly
slash entry-level boating opportunities. The LA County BOS, stricken with a
large deficit and already raking boaters to the hilt, are geared to approve
more space for large, luxury yachts while diminishing boater parking and
slips 34’ and below. Their move comes at a time when the boating
industry leaders are stating they are re-tooling their factories to build
smaller boats and that the “trends” for larger boats were unsustainable.
Dr. Ed Mahoney and Dr. Daniel Stynes from the Recreational Marine Resource
Center at Michigan State University have conducted valuable research in
recreational boating and have stated that recreational harbors are like
ecosystems in that if you reduce the small, affordable, entry-level
opportunities, the damage to boating would be irreparable.
Figure 1- Only 153 mast-up storage spaces planned
to be added for approx. 1,092 small sailboats being displaced –
many of which CANNOT be trailered?
The dry storage
proposed to be added to help with the displacement of the smaller boaters
once in the wet slips is grossly inadequate.
Parcel 52 “Boat Central” (dry-stack storage) is projected to be
$25 a foot/month and supposedly will hold 30 sailboats, mast-up (but we have
yet to see any drawings or simulations how this can be done). The County has
not counted end-ties even though the Department of Boating & Waterways
clearly has guidelines in doing so. MdR Harbor currently has 107 end-ties
mostly occupied with larger boats and without accounting of these slips, it
skews the percentages even further. Accurate baseline slip numbers have
not been a priority in County planning and a recent comment by a
California Coastal Commissioner alluded to this problem; “It usually
works against the smaller boaters”. The push for revenue and the lack
of public participation in the decision-making continues to plague “the
largest man-made, publicly-funded harbor in the world”. This LCPA will
give an unusually disproportinate access to corporations or potential boat
owners earning over $200,000 to the slips in the Marina.
Berth
1999 Total
Percentage
Recommended %
Maximum Case
Boaters Owners with
Length
Slips
Total in MdR
Combined for Marinas
For Individual Marinas
Income of $200,000+
≤30'
2,965
57%
30%
0%
5%
31'-35'
1,011
19%
20%
30%
7%
36'-40'
624
12%
19%
25%
10%
41'-45'
230
4%
10%
20%
28%
46'-50'
197
4%
10%
14%
78%*
>50'
196
4%
11%
11%
91%*
While there has been a
shift in the entire United States in separation of wealth, nothing can be
more clear in looking at the proposed slip layout on who is going to
benefit.
This LCPA Has Been Rolled Out Before LCP Review Has
Completed
For those of you that
have not read all 1,559 pages prepared for this LCPA, you may not have to
worry. The Marina del Rey Local Coastal Plan Periodic Review process (a
coastal access review by State officials) has not been completed and a final
hearing is scheduled to be heard by the California Coastal Commission in late
spring. While all of these County plans are being made, the CCC does have the
ability to request the State Legislature to weigh in on the
Commission’s recommendations to LA County (since the BOS thumbed their
noses at the CCC). This could be an interesting power play.
To review the documents
of the LCPA click here.
Re: [Cal_Boats] FW: Boating Losses from BOS on Feb. 1
mike2011-01-27 21:17 UTC
Without sugar coating it; this blows! I feel for my SoCal brothers....
What is up with the LA Board of Supervisors? How much you wanna bet that
the boaters among them won't lose their slip.
I hope there is some sort of recourse for those affected. Recourse that
doesn't entail thousands and thousands of dollars for lawyers and a time
frame that is reasonable.
Mike M.
On 1/27/2011 4:04 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote:
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 1/27/11, Gerald Sobel /<so… [at] msn.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] msn.com>
> Subject: FW: Boating Losses from BOS on Feb. 1
> To: "Gerald Sobel" <so… [at] yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 12:29 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: jn… [at] gmail.com
> To: la… [at] gmail.com
> Subject: Boating Losses from BOS on Feb. 1
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:30:58 -0800
>
>
>
> LAlogo
>
>
>
> Marina del Rey Boating News
>
> Date 1/27/11
>
>
>
> _In This Edition
> _1) BOS Set To Approve LCPA
> on Feb. 1^st
> 2) LCPA Before the Periodic Review Completion?
>
> _LA County BOS Meeting_
> February 1, 2011
> Hall of Administration
> 9:30 AM
> _Map Here
> <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=500+West+Temple+Street+Los+Angeles,+CA+90012&aq=&sll=34.057797,-118.245324&sspn=0.004498,0.010568&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=500+W+Temple+St,+Los+Angeles,+California+90012&z=16>_
>
> Charter Bus Leaving
> Marina City Club at 8AM
> Email to reserve a spot:
> in… [at] wearemdr.com </mc/compose?to=in… [at] wearemdr.com>
>
> *_Write emails to:_**
> Supervisor Knabe
> *do… [at] bos.co.la.ca.us </mc/compose?to=do… [at] bos.co.la.ca.us>
> * Supervisor Yaroslavsky
> *ze… [at] bos.lacounty.gov </mc/compose?to=ze… [at] bos.lacounty.gov>*
> Supervisor Molina
> *mo… [at] bos.lacounty.gov </mc/compose?to=mo… [at] bos.lacounty.gov>*
> Supervisor Ridley-Thomas
> *ma… [at] bos.lacounty.gov
> </mc/compose?to=ma… [at] bos.lacounty.gov>*
> Supervisor Antonovich
> *fi… [at] lacbos.org </mc/compose?to=fi… [at] lacbos.org>
>
> *_ Be sure to CC:
> _**Assemblywoman Betsy Butler
> *As… [at] assembly.ca.gov
> </mc/compose?to=As… [at] assembly.ca.gov>
> _
> Sample Letter_
> Honorable Supervisors,
> I am writing today to voice my serious concerns with the proposed
> Major Local Coastal Plan Amendment (LCPA) that will be heard by
> the Board on February 1, 2011. While I understand the need to
> redevelop the Marina, the move towards larger boats will severely
> diminish affordable, entry-level boating and will drastically
> impact our boating population in Los Angeles.
> I would like you to withdraw the amendment to continue to reduce
> the slips and adhere to the California Coastal Commission
> recommendation of no further loss of slips in Marina del Rey. The
> marine manufacturers are now going back to building smaller boats,
> and by providing more opportunities and greater access to
> recreational boating, our citizens and boating communities would
> be better served.
> Sincerely,
>
> _Important Sites_
>
> *LAMariner.com* <http://www.lamariner.com>**
>
> *WeAreMDR.com* <http://www.wearemdr.com>**
>
> *Coastal Commission* <http://www.coastal.ca.gov>**
>
> *Cal Boating* <http://www.dbw.ca.gov>**
>
> *The* <http://www.thelog.com>***Log* <http://www.thelog.com>**
>
> **
>
> Contact Us
>
> la… [at] gmail.com </mc/compose?to=la… [at] gmail.com>
>
> (424)229-1657
>
>
>
>
> *_5 Days_*Until Board of Supervisors Approve Massive Reductions
> in Recreational Boating
>
> Recreational Boating in Los Angeles will significantly change on
> February 1^st at the Hall of Administration in Downtown LA where
> the Board of Supervisors will amend the MdR Local Coastal Plan
> (our guiding laws on the coast) to significantly slash entry-level
> boating opportunities. The LA County BOS, stricken with a large
> deficit and already raking boaters to the hilt, are geared to
> approve more space for large, luxury yachts while diminishing
> boater parking and slips 34’ and below. Their move comes at a
> time when the boating industry leaders are stating they are
> re-tooling their factories to build smaller boats and that the
> “trends” for larger boats were /unsustainable/. Dr. Ed Mahoney
> and Dr. Daniel Stynes from the Recreational Marine Resource Center
> at Michigan State University have conducted valuable research in
> recreational boating and have stated that recreational harbors are
> like ecosystems in that *_if you reduce the small, affordable,
> entry-level opportunities, the damage to boating would be
> irreparable_*.
>
> Figure 1- Only _153_ mast-up storage spaces planned to be added
> for approx. 1,092 small sailboats being displaced –
> many of which CANNOT be trailered?
>
> The dry storage proposed to be added to help with the displacement
> of the smaller boaters once in the wet slips is
> DryStorage.JPGgrossly inadequate. Parcel 52 “Boat Central”
> (dry-stack storage) is projected to be $25 a foot/month and
> supposedly will hold 30 sailboats, mast-up (but we have yet to see
> any drawings or simulations how this can be done). The County has
> not counted end-ties even though the Department of Boating &
> Waterways clearly has guidelines in doing so. MdR Harbor currently
> has 107 end-ties mostly occupied with larger boats and without
> accounting of these slips, it skews the percentages even further.
> *Accurate baseline slip numbers* _have not_ been a priority in
> County planning and a recent comment by a California Coastal
> Commissioner alluded to this problem; “It usually works against
> the smaller boaters”. The push for revenue and the lack of public
> participation in the decision-making continues to plague “the
> largest man-made, publicly-funded harbor in the world”. This LCPA
> will give an unusually disproportinate access to corporations or
> potential boat owners earning over $200,000 to the slips in the
> Marina.
>
> *_Berth _*
>
>
>
> *_1999 Total _*
>
>
>
> *_Percentage _*
>
>
>
> *_Recommended %_*
>
>
>
> *_Maximum Case_*
>
>
>
> *_Boaters Owners with_*
>
> *_Length_*
>
>
>
> *_Slips_*
>
>
>
> *_Total in MdR_*
>
>
>
> *_Combined for Marinas_*
>
>
>
> *_For Individual Marinas_*
>
>
>
> *_Income of $200,000+_*
>
> *≤30'*
>
>
>
> *2,965*
>
>
>
> *57%*
>
>
>
> *30%*
>
>
>
> *0%*
>
>
>
> *5%*
>
> *31'-35'*
>
>
>
> *1,011*
>
>
>
> *19%*
>
>
>
> *20%*
>
>
>
> *30%*
>
>
>
> *7%*
>
> *36'-40'*
>
>
>
> *624*
>
>
>
> *12%*
>
>
>
> *19%*
>
>
>
> *25%*
>
>
>
> *10%*
>
> *41'-45'*
>
>
>
> *230*
>
>
>
> *4%*
>
>
>
> *10%*
>
>
>
> *20%*
>
>
>
> *28%*
>
> *46'-50'*
>
>
>
> *197*
>
>
>
> *4%*
>
>
>
> *10%*
>
>
>
> *14%*
>
>
>
> *78%**
>
> *>50'*
>
>
>
> *196*
>
>
>
> *4%*
>
>
>
> *11%*
>
>
>
> *11%*
>
>
>
> *91%**
>
> While there has been a shift in the entire United States in
> separation of wealth, nothing can be more clear in looking at the
> proposed slip layout on who is going to benefit.
>
> This LCPA Has Been Rolled Out Before LCP Review Has Completed
>
> For those of you that have not read all 1,559 pages prepared for
> this LCPA, you may not have to worry. The Marina del Rey Local
> Coastal Plan Periodic Review process (a coastal access review by
> State officials) has not been completed and a final hearing is
> scheduled to be heard by the California Coastal Commission in late
> spring. While all of these County plans are being made, the CCC
> does have the ability to request the State Legislature to weigh in
> on the Commission’s recommendations to LA County (since the BOS
> thumbed their noses at the CCC). This could be an interesting
> power play.
>
> To review the documents of the LCPA click here
> <http://planning.lacounty.gov/case/view/project_no._r2009-02277-4_adv_200900014_marina_del_rey_land_use_plan_major_/>.
>
>
> **
>
>
>