Cal 21 Keel Bolt???

Greetings From South Carolina! I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I can't seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a "hard" grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J Thanks in advance! Cap'n Buddy Charleston SC Cal 21 Hull # 225

I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent and not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that the hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting the keel go down too far before it stopped.. Beau Callipygian 72 Cal 21 From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Greetings From South Carolina! I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I can’t seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J Thanks in advance! Cap’n Buddy Charleston SC Cal 21 Hull # 225

Thanks Beau! Already fixed it J I used a 5/8” brass pipe 8” long drilled a hole in each end dropped a locking clevis pin in each hole after install and it works just great! Thank your so much for your help and I am pretty handy so if you need anything just let me know! For its age this boat is in mint condition! It has had only 3 other owners and they were all about taking care of this boat and trailer! Bud 70 Cal 21 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of The SV Emergency Exit Crew Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:57 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent and not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that the hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting the keel go down too far before it stopped.. Beau Callipygian 72 Cal 21 _____ From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Greetings From South Carolina! I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I can’t seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J Thanks in advance! Cap’n Buddy Charleston SC Cal 21 Hull # 225

I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > >

Not talking about pivot bolt. Talking about keel locking pin. You may want to reread my posting :) From: Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:55:56 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > >________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

I'm dry sailing mine inland small lake in Louisiana and just use a cheap eye bolt about 8" long with washers and a wing nut, gives me a nice handle to remove it with. Mine had to be gutted and all the interior rebuilt, as well as repairing and refairing the keel, but it was a gift and I put some time into it, including stripping some old peeling paint and going back with a lot of coats of Sapphire Blue Brightsides. Sure is a big difference to sail than my old 79 Chrysler C26. Quick little thing, sails sweet, makes me really think about looking for a larger fixed keel Cal... Before and afters are here http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/before.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/after.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/cal2-1.jpg From: "bb… [at] comcast.net" <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:52:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Not talking about pivot bolt. Talking about keel locking pin. You may want to reread my posting :) From: Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:55:56 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > >________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Nice paint job! I need to do it to my Pearson Resolute (20 ft) this summer. Found it after it had been sitting on its trailer for almost 10 years. Someone had thankfully taken the garboard drain plug so the hull is dry and not cracked from freezing, but in need of a good cleaning. Jim From: The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:09:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I'm dry sailing mine inland small lake in Louisiana and just use a cheap eye bolt about 8" long with washers and a wing nut, gives me a nice handle to remove it with. Mine had to be gutted and all the interior rebuilt, as well as repairing and refairing the keel, but it was a gift and I put some time into it, including stripping some old peeling paint and going back with a lot of coats of Sapphire Blue Brightsides. Sure is a big difference to sail than my old 79 Chrysler C26. Quick little thing, sails sweet, makes me really think about looking for a larger fixed keel Cal... Before and afters are here http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/before.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/after.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/cal2-1.jpg From: "bb… [at] comcast.net" <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:52:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Not talking about pivot bolt. Talking about keel locking pin. You may want to reread my posting :) From: Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:55:56 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > >________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Great Paint Job! Is that a 1978 Merc 4.5 Motor? I just got one with my boat! After fixing the Keel locking bolt today I will tackle the motor tomorrow J Can you tell me the “Startup procedure? Is there a “Choke” which position should the switch on front of motor be in etc………… HELP J From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Pollock Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:24 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Nice paint job! I need to do it to my Pearson Resolute (20 ft) this summer. Found it after it had been sitting on its trailer for almost 10 years. Someone had thankfully taken the garboard drain plug so the hull is dry and not cracked from freezing, but in need of a good cleaning. Jim _____ From: The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:09:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I'm dry sailing mine inland small lake in Louisiana and just use a cheap eye bolt about 8" long with washers and a wing nut, gives me a nice handle to remove it with. Mine had to be gutted and all the interior rebuilt, as well as repairing and refairing the keel, but it was a gift and I put some time into it, including stripping some old peeling paint and going back with a lot of coats of Sapphire Blue Brightsides. Sure is a big difference to sail than my old 79 Chrysler C26. Quick little thing, sails sweet, makes me really think about looking for a larger fixed keel Cal... Before and afters are here http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/before.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/after.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/cal2-1.jpg _____ From: "bb… [at] comcast.net" <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:52:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Not talking about pivot bolt. Talking about keel locking pin. You may want to reread my posting :) From: Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:55:56 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > >________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Very nice indeed! Looks very clean and ready for the water! Brian From: "Buddy Burnett" <bb… [at] comcast.net> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:35:27 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Great Paint Job! Is that a 1978 Merc 4.5 Motor? I just got one with my boat! After fixing the Keel locking bolt today I will tackle the motor tomorrow J Can you tell me the “Startup procedure? Is there a “Choke” which position should the switch on front of motor be in etc………… HELP J From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Pollock Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:24 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Nice paint job! I need to do it to my Pearson Resolute (20 ft) this summer. Found it after it had been sitting on its trailer for almost 10 years. Someone had thankfully taken the garboard drain plug so the hull is dry and not cracked from freezing, but in need of a good cleaning. Jim From: The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:09:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I'm dry sailing mine inland small lake in Louisiana and just use a cheap eye bolt about 8" long with washers and a wing nut, gives me a nice handle to remove it with. Mine had to be gutted and all the interior rebuilt, as well as repairing and refairing the keel, but it was a gift and I put some time into it, including stripping some old peeling paint and going back with a lot of coats of Sapphire Blue Brightsides. Sure is a big difference to sail than my old 79 Chrysler C26. Quick little thing, sails sweet, makes me really think about looking for a larger fixed keel Cal... Before and afters are here http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/before.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/after.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/cal2-1.jpg From: "bb… [at] comcast.net" <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:52:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Not talking about pivot bolt. Talking about keel locking pin. You may want to reread my posting :) From: Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:55:56 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > >________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Thanks all, the best part of the whole deal was watching the scoffs that I took "that old thing" on turn into "if you'd like to sell it...". Yes thats an old 4.5 Merc which has now been replaced by a Tohatsu 5hp. The old Merc was just worn out in every way. You should have a left/right "switch" on the front of the motor below and to the left of the pull handle, if you take the cover off you can see that it flips a cover either on or off the throat of the carb. Mine needed the choke only when cold, but it always took a while to warm up. If I can answer any other questions about the Merc drop me a note at sv… [at] yahoo.com. From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 9:35:27 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Great Paint Job! Is that a 1978 Merc 4.5 Motor? I just got one with my boat! After fixing the Keel locking bolt today I will tackle the motor tomorrow JCan you tell me the “Startup procedure? Is there a “Choke” which position should the switch on front of motor be in etc………… HELP J From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Pollock Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:24 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Nice paint job! I need to do it to my Pearson Resolute (20 ft) this summer. Found it after it had been sitting on its trailer for almost 10 years. Someone had thankfully taken the garboard drain plug so the hull is dry and not cracked from freezing, but in need of a good cleaning. Jim From:The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:09:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I'm dry sailing mine inland small lake in Louisiana and just use a cheap eye bolt about 8" long with washers and a wing nut, gives me a nice handle to remove it with. Mine had to be gutted and all the interior rebuilt, as well as repairing and refairing the keel, but it was a gift and I put some time into it, including stripping some old peeling paint and going back with a lot of coats of Sapphire Blue Brightsides. Sure is a big difference to sail than my old 79 Chrysler C26. Quick little thing, sails sweet, makes me really think about looking for a larger fixed keel Cal... Before and afters are here http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/before.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/after.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/cal2-1.jpg From:"bb… [at] comcast.net" <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:52:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Not talking about pivot bolt. Talking about keel locking pin. You may want to reread my posting :) From: Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:55:56 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > >________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

I have a 4.5 like that and it runs like a champ. I have always run it out of gas, (ie pull hose as I approach dock), to keep the carb from build up Starts 1st pull --- On Sun, 3/27/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Received: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 6:28 AM Thanks all, the best part of the whole deal was watching the scoffs that I took "that old thing" on turn into "if you'd like to sell it...". Yes thats an old 4.5 Merc which has now been replaced by a Tohatsu 5hp. The old Merc was just worn out in every way. You should have a left/right "switch" on the front of the motor below and to the left of the pull handle, if you take the cover off you can see that it flips a cover either on or off the throat of the carb. Mine needed the choke only when cold, but it always took a while to warm up. If I can answer any other questions about the Merc drop me a note at sv… [at] yahoo.com. From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 9:35:27 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Great Paint Job! Is that a 1978 Merc 4.5 Motor? I just got one with my boat! After fixing the Keel locking bolt today I will tackle the motor tomorrow J Can you tell me the “Startup procedure? Is there a “Choke” which position should the switch on front of motor be in etc………… HELP J From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Pollock Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:24 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Nice paint job! I need to do it to my Pearson Resolute (20 ft) this summer. Found it after it had been sitting on its trailer for almost 10 years. Someone had thankfully taken the garboard drain plug so the hull is dry and not cracked from freezing, but in need of a good cleaning. Jim From: The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:09:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I'm dry sailing mine inland small lake in Louisiana and just use a cheap eye bolt about 8" long with washers and a wing nut, gives me a nice handle to remove it with. Mine had to be gutted and all the interior rebuilt, as well as repairing and refairing the keel, but it was a gift and I put some time into it, including stripping some old peeling paint and going back with a lot of coats of Sapphire Blue Brightsides. Sure is a big difference to sail than my old 79 Chrysler C26. Quick little thing, sails sweet, makes me really think about looking for a larger fixed keel Cal... Before and afters are here http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/before.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/Cal%2021%20Pics/Before%20After/after.jpg http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/svemergencyexit/cal2-1.jpg From: "bb… [at] comcast.net" <bb… [at] comcast.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:52:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? Not talking about pivot bolt. Talking about keel locking pin. You may want to reread my posting :) From: Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:55:56 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? I see three problems with your plan: 1) Brass will de-zincify in salt water, losing strength and causing pin failure. 2) Brass will wear quickly; 3) If you shear off your pivot bolt, how do you get home? If you are serious about having a shear-type pivot pin, I would suggest a Type 316L Stainless Steel or Monel (nickel-copper) round bar machined to fit. This pin would also have two grooves machined in to reduce the strength to allow it to break at a specific load. But you are still left with Point #3 - how do you get back to the dock with the swing keel dangling under the boat by the lifting cable? On 3/26/11, The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I used a 1/2" bolt, but went down to a 1/4" one on the thought that if I > grounded with a tight fitting bolt I would be impossible to pull out if bent > and > not sheared. I think the hole will accomodate a 5/8" one. I also found that > the > hole didn't line up with the keel all the way down, and a few cranks on the > winch were required to line it up. When I dropped the keel later I found the > leading edge was damaged due to someone dropping the keel hard, thus letting > the > keel go down too far before it stopped.. > > Beau > Callipygian > 72 Cal 21 > > > > >________________________________ > From: Buddy Burnett <bb… [at] comcast.net> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 7:45:47 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 21 Keel Bolt??? > > > > Greetings From South Carolina! > > I recently purchased a 1970 Cal 21 Hull # 225 and I have a question J I > can’t > seem to locate the keel locking pin/bolt. Can anyone here tell me > > The exact size? I want to make one out of brass so in case of a “hard” > grounding it will just shear off instead of doing any damage to my boat J > Thanks in advance! > > Cap’n Buddy > Charleston SC > Cal 21 Hull # 225 > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links