Is this a Cal in the surf?

This looks like a Cal to me. Does anybody recognize it? http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/kdh0411.asp

On 4/13/2011 5:25 PM, Danny wrote: > > This looks like a Cal to me. Does anybody recognize it? > > http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/kdh0411.asp > What in the world was going on? The photos suggest that the wind and sea conditions were moderate. The furling jib is fully deployed and the mainsail is furled & covered. Around here, the people you see sailing on genoa alone are the lazy sailors who just want to go out and drift around aimlessly for a while. The sailor in the photos doesn't seem to be making much of an effort to stay out of trouble. Very strange. Chris Campbell > > > >

looks at first glance like someone who ruined a great boat!...what a dip!@#$....However, who knows the whole story. To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:56:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Is this a Cal in the surf? On 4/13/2011 5:25 PM, Danny wrote: This looks like a Cal to me. Does anybody recognize it? http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/kdh0411.asp What in the world was going on? The photos suggest that the wind and sea conditions were moderate. The furling jib is fully deployed and the mainsail is furled & covered. Around here, the people you see sailing on genoa alone are the lazy sailors who just want to go out and drift around aimlessly for a while. The sailor in the photos doesn't seem to be making much of an effort to stay out of trouble. Very strange. Chris Campbell

Mates, this is my take of what may have happened. Looks like early AM and flat seas=nil wind. The story says he fouled his prop on anchor line as he manueverd to free it while leaving, and he was probably anchored close to shore, which makes sense. Between dragging anchor from prop (useless to cut anchor line as it is hanging from propeller, not deck) and little wind to catch Genoa to drive boat forward, and swells driving boat into lee shore, and Genoa not sheeted in-maybe he didn't have time to do this before we was in the breakers and he was getting tossed around the deck, my guess is his goose was already cooked. He probably unfurled the Genoa in a last, panicked minute attempt to save himself and boat. Story says his wife was below, so, too bad he didn't have an extra pair of hands during his departure from anchoring too take up the slack of the rode, but all of this is just conjecture. We all can do dumb things, either in duress, or when we think things are routine and under control, and lose our focus. The best 'take away' is that it could be that it is an expensive, tragic lesson for all of us, rather than an opportunity to vent our derision. Fortunately they could wade away from this accident with their lives. Jerry --- On Thu, 4/14/11, george macon <ge… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: george macon <ge… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Is this a Cal in the surf? To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 6:58 AM looks at first glance like someone who ruined a great boat!...what a dip!@#$....However, who knows the whole story. To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:56:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Is this a Cal in the surf? On 4/13/2011 5:25 PM, Danny wrote: This looks like a Cal to me. Does anybody recognize it? http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/kdh0411.asp What in the world was going on? The photos suggest that the wind and sea conditions were moderate. The furling jib is fully deployed and the mainsail is furled & covered. Around here, the people you see sailing on genoa alone are the lazy sailors who just want to go out and drift around aimlessly for a while. The sailor in the photos doesn't seem to be making much of an effort to stay out of trouble. Very strange. Chris Campbell

On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Chris Campbell wrote: > On 4/13/2011 5:25 PM, Danny wrote: > >> >> This looks like a Cal to me. Does anybody recognize it? >> >> http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/kdh0411.asp >> > > What in the world was going on? The photos suggest that the wind > and sea conditions were moderate. The furling jib is fully deployed > and the mainsail is furled & covered. Around here, the people you > see sailing on genoa alone are the lazy sailors who just want to go > out and drift around aimlessly for a while. The sailor in the > photos doesn't seem to be making much of an effort to stay out of > trouble. Very strange. > > Chris Campbell That's not a Cal boat. It has trim pieces along the cabin top and the ports are different. It might be one of the small cruising boats like Pacific Seacraft. The owner should have taken some Power Squadron classes. Mike Kennedy >> >> > > >

On 4/14/2011 2:32 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote: > > Mates, this is my take of what may have happened. Looks like early AM > and flat seas=nil wind. The story says he fouled his prop on anchor > line as he manueverd to free it while leaving, and he was probably > anchored close to shore, which makes sense. Between dragging anchor > from prop (useless to cut anchor line as it is hanging from propeller, > not deck) and little wind to catch Genoa to drive boat forward, and > swells driving boat into lee shore, and Genoa not sheeted in-maybe he > didn't have time to do this before we was in the breakers and he was > getting tossed around the deck, my guess is his goose was already > cooked. He probably unfurled the Genoa in a last, panicked minute > attempt to save himself and boat. Story says his wife was below, so, > too bad he didn't have an extra pair of hands during his departure > from anchoring too take up the slack of the rode, but all of this is > just conjecture. We all can do dumb things, either in duress, or when > we think things are routine and under control, and lose our focus. The > best 'take away' is that it could be that it is an expensive, tragic > lesson for all of us, rather than an opportunity to vent our derision. > Fortunately they could wade away from this accident with their lives. > Jerry > Jerry: You are kind and generous in your evaluation, while the rest of us were hooting and hollering about fools. You are to be commended for your qualities, and when the rest of us do dumb things, we ought to hope that we'll be evaluated with similarly tolerant comments. That said, I'll just add that I've always viewed it as my great obligation to keep my boat off the shore and out of harm's way. We had a big storm of record proportions here about a decade ago. A bunch of boats went ashore (about 22). They tended to fall into two categories: those that weren't properly secured, and those that were in the way of the improperly secured boats that went adrift. I feel much sorrier for those whose innocent vessels were in the path of the poorly kept boats. (My boat was moved to a safe harbor after a schooner captain had seen the weather report and said "Chris, get your boat out of there.") In light of that experience, I made sure that my diver replaced my old mooring chain last spring. It had a decade's wear on it (summers only). He had checked it the year before and we decided it had a bit more useful life but I did not want to press my luck further. Then in the fall, when we had a sequence of days of a hard blow from the least protected direction (N), I got worried about my boat. It was a week before haul-out, and one of the two mooring lines had been looking a bit tired. I finally decided that I needed to row out and check. I launched the dinghy and had a very wet, slow row out to the boat. When I got there, my fears were confirmed. One of the two lines was about to part. I replaced it with a spare and slept untroubled that night. One time on the other boat my outboard stopped running at the worst possible time--in a narrow dredged channel with an unfavorable wind. I didn't have an anchor shackled onto my anchor rode, which was buried under a locker full of miscellaneous stuff. I lucked out, but only after the most experienced local sailor had viewed my ineptitude and unpreparedness. You can bet that only happened once. One more thing. Even on my little boats, I carry two anchors and two rodes. Belt & suspenders. Chris Campbell